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I Just Want Balance To Be Fair - Not Hypocritical

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#81 MrMadguy

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:15 AM

View PostMawai, on 22 May 2015 - 06:11 AM, said:



LOL. Are you trying to use that pic to indicate that Raven's are OP? You have to be kidding me. All that image shows is that the raven's played as a TEAM. They grouped up, stayed together and focus fired down opponents. You do that in ANY mech and your effectiveness goes way up. It doesn't matter what mech or class ... though light mechs do the wolf pack thing, where they pull down the stragglers, extremely well.

However, I have seen the same thing done with any combination of fast lights working TOGETHER.

Teamwork always has been and always will be OP in this game. You have teamwork against a group without it and you usually win despite whatever mechs and fitting you are using.

No. My team won, because I was covering their backs from enemies, that were trying to backstab us CCW around citadel. I'm just trying to show, that 4 Ravens of 6 Lights in one match - is too much.

#82 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:38 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 22 May 2015 - 06:15 AM, said:

No. My team won, because I was covering their backs from enemies, that were trying to backstab us CCW around citadel. I'm just trying to show, that 4 Ravens of 6 Lights in one match - is too much.

By who's measure?

#83 Burktross

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:02 AM

Pilot a locust and get back to me about how blatantly OP it is and how much it needs quirks.

#84 MrMadguy

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:30 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 22 May 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

By who's measure?

Simple math. We have 11 Light 'Mechs in a game with total 48 variants and 6 slots for them in every match. Chance to see any specified variant in particular match should be about 12.5%. I see Raven-3L in 70% of matches.

Look. I'm not trying to bash any particular 'Mech. I'm just trying to show, that balance - is two edged blade. If you want it to strike other people, you should be ready to be struck back. You just can't say "Nerf Clans!" and "Don't touch IS!" at the same time. If TBRs and SCRs are nerfed - most offending Ravens, Firestarters, Spiders, Thunderbolts should be nerfed too. Why not? They are "ok"? Then why TBRs and SCRs are not "ok" and their better then average performance shouldn't be tolerated?

#85 Palor

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:41 AM

With all the crying about the TBR SCR nerfs I expected CW to look very different, nope still almost all TBR and SCR pilots.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 12:52 PM

View PostPalor, on 22 May 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

With all the crying about the TBR SCR nerfs I expected CW to look very different, nope still almost all TBR and SCR pilots.



Still better than the alternatives. Think about that.

Although to be fair I haven't dropped a Timber in CW since the holidays, I roll with x2 SCR x2 Bringer.

#87 Palor

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 12:54 PM

ATM my only clan mechs are SCR's and TBR's and I barely played the TBR's. I only got the TBR's because I Love the JJ heavies. Should of picked up the Hellbringers.

#88 Kristov Kerensky

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 01:22 PM

MrMadGuy, that screenshot shows 1 thing and only 1 thing, the other team were sleeping when you guys started that drop. Look at the damages, and you are trying to tell us that that is due to the 3 Ravens on your team? Literally half the enemy team didn't break a 20 score, that has nothing to do with the Ravens and everything to do with really REALLY bad players.

Seriously dude, you lost 1 teammate who did 1 damage and rolled the other team, totally wrong screenshot for your intended purposes.

#89 Catra Lanis

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 01:51 PM

Huggins OP? LoL, they have a lot of firepower but are only effective at very close range due to spread. It's slower than most light IS mechs. If catched in the open it's dead, DEAD.

I've never had any problems with them. The times one managed to sneak up and shoot my Stalker in the back I deserved it.

Edited by Catra Lanis, 22 May 2015 - 01:52 PM.


#90 Wildstreak

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 02:21 PM

View PostMrMadguy, on 22 May 2015 - 06:15 AM, said:

No. My team won, because I was covering their backs from enemies, that were trying to backstab us CCW around citadel. I'm just trying to show, that 4 Ravens of 6 Lights in one match - is too much.

So having more than # of the same chassis makes for OP?
I have seen 3 of the following on the same team before counting enemies.
Atlas
Dire Wolf
King Crab
Battlemaster
JagerMech
Catapult
Hunchback
Spider
Enforcer
Shadow Hawk
etc.
Lotta OP Mechs in this game!

#91 MrMadguy

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 12:50 AM

Yea, first match of the day and it's already RavenWarrior Online.
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Edited by MrMadguy, 23 May 2015 - 12:51 AM.


#92 badaa

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 02:14 AM

balance will happen when pinpoint is dealt with.

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 03:02 AM

Someone got shot in the back.

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 12:37 PM

View PostMrMadguy, on 23 May 2015 - 12:50 AM, said:

Yea, first match of the day and it's already RavenWarrior Online.
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God forbid each team has one raven on it. Clearly 3 op 5 me.

While we're at it, let's nerf Kit Foxes!
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My Kit Fox isn't even basic'd

Edited by Burktross, 23 May 2015 - 12:45 PM.






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