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#1 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:46 PM

Here are just some of the Unique Variants that we could get,
assuming the TimeLine is moved forward to the year 3054,

Please Note this Topic is About Variants not New Mechs,
the Zero(0) signifies that a Unique Hardpoint Location,


=3054 IS Variants=
BlackJack
2 Variant(3052)
HD-..................................................................................................................
CT-..................................................................................................................
RT- 2M..........................................2S-SRM2, .................................................0
LT- 2M...........................................2S-SRM2, S-SRM-Ammo...........................0
RA- 1E..........................................1ER-LL......................................................
LA- 1E..........................................1ER-LL.......................................................
RL-..................................................................................................................
LL-...................................................................................................................
i chose this variant because well no Black Jack has a Missile Option yet,
and this could really give players who love the Chassis another Viable Option,
(i have not added in any Hardpoint Inflation so assume +2-4 more hardpoints)

Catapult
C Variant(3052)
HD-..................................................................................................................
CT- 2E..........................................2ML...........................................................0
RT- 1E..........................................1ML, (1Arrow4) A4-Ammo.........................0
LT- 1E..........................................1ML............................................................0
RA- 1M.........................................1Arrow4.....................................................0
LA- .................................................................................................................
RL-..................................................................................................................
LL-...................................................................................................................
i chose this variant because well Arrow4 Option, yup, enough said, :)
(i have not added in any Hardpoint Inflation so assume +2-4 more hardpoints)


=3054 Clan Variants=
MistLynx
E Variant(3054)
HD-...............................................C-AP...........................................................
CT-..................................................................................................................
RT- .................................................................................................................
LT- ..................................................................................................................
RA- 4E..........................................4ER-SL......................................................0
LA- 1M..........................................1ATM6, ATM-Ammo....................................0
RL-..................................................................................................................
LL-...................................................................................................................
i chose this variant because i feel it would help give the MistLynx with its RA Energy builds,
this Variant gives the MLX more Energy hard-points, allowing some more diverse Energy builds,

KitFox
G Variant(3054)
HD-.................................................................................................................
CT-.................................................................................................................
RT- 1M..........................................1LRM10, LRM-Ammo................................0
LT- 1M...........................................1LRM10, LRM-Ammo................................0
RA- 2E..........................................1ER-LL, 1ER-ML.......................................
LA- 1ECM......................................1ECM-System,..........................................0
RL-..................................................................................................................
LL-..................................................................................................................
i feel the KFX-G could really aid in Missile based builds as both Side-Torsos have Missile hard-points,
as they would Aid most Missile builds, as where the LA ECM would free up the RA for high mounted Gauss,

Nova
G Variant(3053)(looking for Source)
HD- 1ECM....................................1ECM,.......................................................0
CT- 1M.........................................1S-SRM4,..................................................0
RT- 1JJ 1M...................................1JJ, 1S-SRM4, S-SRM-Ammo....................0
LT- 1JJ 1M....................................1JJ, 1S-SRM4, S-SRM-Ammo....................0
RA- 6B..........................................6MG, MG-Ammo.......................................0
LA- 6B..........................................6MG, MG-Ammo.......................................0
RL-................................................................................................................
LL-................................................................................................................
Found this Build in MW3 listed under Nova-G(looking for Cannon Source),
it has an odd 2JJ(Torso), 3M(Torso), 12B(Arms) as well as an ECM(Head),
giving it a an interesting Role as a Point Blank Stealth Jump Brawler,

StormCrow
E Variant(3054)
HD-...............................................C-AP.........................................................
CT-................................................................................................................
RT- 2E..........................................2ER-SL....................................................0
LT- 2E...........................................2ER-SL....................................................0
RA- 1E 1M....................................1ER-ML, 1ATM9, ATM-Ammo...................0
LA- 1E 1M.....................................1ER-ML, 1ATM9, ATM-Ammo...................0
RL-.................................................................................................................
LL-..................................................................................................................
this i feel would boost the SCR short range game, as well as move options to how players can play it,
the RT&LT 2Energy hard-points could allow for a more MediumLasers to help balance its LRM Boat builds,

MadDog
D Variant(3054)
HD-.................................................................................................................
CT- 2E..........................................2ER-ML.....................................................0
RT- 1M.........................................1ATM12, ATM-Ammo..................................
LT- 1M..........................................1ATM12, ATM-Ammo..................................
RA- 2E..........................................1ER-ML, 1ER-SL.......................................
LA- 3E...........................................1ER-ML, 2ER-SL.......................................0
RL- ..................................................................................................................
LL- ...................................................................................................................
i chose this variant because i feel it would help pilots move away from streight LRM builds,
this Variant gives MDD's more Energy hard-points, allowing some more diverse Energy builds,
(D-LA 3E give it a good mix with the B-RA 3E, all wail the D-CT 2E give it good Zombie builds)

HellBringer
F Variant(3054)
HD-................................................................................................................
CT-.................................................................................................................
RT- 1E 1M....................................1ER-ML, 1SRM-6, SRM-Ammo..................0
LT- 1E .........................................1ER-ML,.....................................................
RA- 1E 1B....................................1ATM12, ATM-Ammo..................................0
LA- 1E 1B.....................................1ER-ML, 1Lb-10X-AC, LB-10X-Ammo........0
RL-..................................................................................................................
LL-..................................................................................................................
i chose this variant because i feel it would help HellBringers with mixed Energy/Ballistic builds,
this Variant gives the HBR more Arm Energy/Ballistic hard-points, allowing some more mixed builds,
this along with the RTs 1Energy & 1Missile hardpoint could also help with build diversity,

Summoner
F Variant(3054)
HD-................................................................................................................
CT-.................................................................................................................
RT- 1E ........................................1ER-ML,....................................................0
LT- 1M ........................................1LRM10, LRM-Ammo................................
RA- 1E 1B....................................1ER-ML, 1Ultra-AC5, Ultra-AC5-Ammo......0
LA- 1E 1B.....................................1ER-ML, 1Ultra-AC5, Ultra-AC5-Ammo......0
RL-..................................................................................................................
LL-..................................................................................................................
whats to say it feels like the SMN needs more options, and i feel this Variant will give it just that,
the RT 1 energy hard-point would allow for more customizations, and the RA&LA more Ballistics fun,

WarHawk
D Variant(3054)
HD-.................................................................................................................
CT- 1E...........................................1ER-SL,...................................................0
RT- 2E...........................................2ER-LL,...................................................0
LT-.................................................................................................................
RA- 1M .........................................1ATM9, ATM-Ammo.................................0
LA- 1B ..........................................1Ultra-AC10, Ultra-AC10-Ammo...............0
RL-.................................................................................................................
LL-..................................................................................................................
the WHK arms are amazing and offer great flexibility, its RT not so much, 1ASM<1M<2M, what about 2E?
i feel the RT 2 Energy hard-points as well as the CT 1E will allow for better Energy builds on the WHK,

WarHawk
F Variant(3054)
HD-.................................................................................................................
CT- 1E...........................................LRM10, LRM-Ammo,................................0
RT- 2E...........................................1Ultra-AC2, TC1, ....................................0
LT-.................................................................................................................
RA- 1E 1M .....................................1ER-PPC, LRM20, LRM-Ammo..............0
LA- 1E ..........................................1ER-PPC, Ultra-AC2-Ammo,....................0
RL-.................................................................................................................
LL-..................................................................................................................
the WHK arms are amazing and offer great flexibility, its RT not so much, 1ASM<1M<2M, what about 1B?
i feel the RT 1Balistic hard-point will allow for better Ballistic builds on the WHK Frame,

DireWolf
C Variant(3054)
HD- 1M.........................................1SRM,,........................................................0
CT- 1ECM....................................1ECM, SRM-Ammo,.....................................0
RT- 1E .........................................1M-PL, 1TargetingComputer........................0
LT- 3E...........................................3M-PL,........................................................0
RA- 1E 1M....................................1ER-PPC, 1ATM6, ATM-Ammo...................0
LA-1E 1M.....................................1ER-PPC, 1ATM6, ATM-Ammo....................0
RL- ..................................................................................................................
LL- ...................................................................................................................
i chose this variant because i feel it would help pilots to move away, from the AC20X4 and ERLLX8 builds,
this Variant gives DWF's lots of Missile hard-points, allowing some more diverse Missile builds,


so should we TimeJump? to get these Variants?
(looking for more IS Variants Update commings soon) :)

Thoughts, Comments, Concerns?
Thanks

Edit- Spacing

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 21 May 2015 - 06:46 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:48 PM

SOON.

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:51 PM

4 SRMs on a blackjack? Count me in.

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:53 PM

I can already here the -6% quirks on the SCR torsos... :ph34r:

Anyways, other than new weapon systems which might not pass because PGI, sure, why not?

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:01 PM

Russ said on Twitter that the current timeline is already 3052. I asked him if that meant we'd get the BJ-2 any time soon, but didn't get a response.

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:14 PM

I'll assume the next Clams are the
  • Viper/Dragonfly or Huntsman
  • Night Gyr(3052)
  • KingFisher (it sucks, but it's the only timeline choice with 4 variants, Turkina only has 1)
Light could be Firemoth, speed depending, but it's the only Omni remaining.


Russ said he's already got an idea...but not sure what he meant by "Tapped out capacity".



We may or may not get any more 'P ' pods. I would love a 12 MG nova. (9k ammo, 2 ERLLs?) But realistically, we won't get one. They haven't even released all the already made pods (second missile hardpoint)

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:17 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 21 May 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

Russ said he's already got an idea...but not sure what he meant by "Tapped out capacity".


I think he means the artists, since there is a technical backlog with the Resistance Wave 2 stuff (and the camos for everything else, plus mechs that are being redone for the "legomech system"). Sad to be a Gargles fan (only faction camos).

As for the mechs... please no. We're already partying like it's 3050... again, and even the IS isn't even getting that Binary Laser Cannon (why can't we have nice things?).

There's too much powercreep in your suggested wishlist... but nothing will save the Mist Lynx from sucking other than giving the Mist Lynx the armor on the arms that a 50-tonner is carrying (Trebuchet, Centurion, Nova).

So... just please no.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:27 AM

I think the ECM Dire Wolf is just what this game needs.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:29 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 22 May 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

I think the ECM Dire Wolf is just what this game needs.


STOP PEEKING!

Once that arrives, there's virtually no debate between the D-DC/S vs the Dire Whale...

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:34 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:


STOP PEEKING!

Once that arrives, there's virtually no debate between the D-DC/S vs the Dire Whale...


Is there really a debate now though?

I mean people love to say that, and up close maybe the Atlas has a chance but I don't see myself every prefering a DDC over a Whale.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 22 May 2015 - 08:34 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:13 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

There's too much powercreep in your suggested wishlist... but nothing will save the Mist Lynx from sucking other than giving the Mist Lynx the armor on the arms that a 50-tonner is carrying (Trebuchet, Centurion, Nova).

So... just please no.


It's not a wishlist; it's the remaining options.

Whether we want them or not, those are the only options remaining for 3052 (more options for Meds)


When he decides to release another pack, you can make a safe assumption.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:20 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 22 May 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:


When he decides to release another pack, you can make a safe assumption.


I am just super excited for the Night Gyr. Might be the first viable dual gauss jump sniper.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:24 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 22 May 2015 - 08:34 AM, said:

Is there really a debate now though?

I mean people love to say that, and up close maybe the Atlas has a chance but I don't see myself every prefering a DDC over a Whale.


Yea, it's kinda sad (well, the King Crab vs Dire Whale debate is even more hilarious).

I'd still like a D-DC @ 35% off... that would be nice (missed the 50% sale ages ago :( ).


View PostMcgral18, on 22 May 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

It's not a wishlist; it's the remaining options.

Whether we want them or not, those are the only options remaining for 3052 (more options for Meds)


When he decides to release another pack, you can make a safe assumption.


I think PGi's progressing in a such a way to continue the current system of Clan variant releases (Summoner-M release is some ways out, but we'll get a Nova with the missile arm soon™).

Just 5 more mechs to "legomechanize" soon™.


View PostGas Guzzler, on 22 May 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

I am just super excited for the Night Gyr. Might be the first viable dual gauss jump sniper.


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. :(

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:27 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. :(


You are right it will probably come with a 20% cooldown penalty, and -50% gauss velocity quirks

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:27 AM

I just want my Blood Asp.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:28 AM

View PostKuroNyra, on 22 May 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:

I just want my Blood Asp.


That is years away isn't it?

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:38 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 22 May 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:

You are right it will probably come with a 20% cooldown penalty, and -50% gauss velocity quirks


It'll compete with the Gausscat and Gaussjager...

Besides, how much free tonnage will it have for other weapons? :P

I'm still kinda chuckling at people trying to run the dual Gaussdog.

It's all about that preemptive nerf! :P

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:41 AM

Some of those variants would require new weapons that aren't in the game yet.

I don't think PGI is willing to open that can of worms when they don't even seem to be finished balancing the weapons we already have.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:44 AM

No, not until we have a properly working Clan Invasion.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:44 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 22 May 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:


It'll compete with the Gausscat and Gaussjager...

Besides, how much free tonnage will it have for other weapons? :P

I'm still kinda chuckling at people trying to run the dual Gaussdog.

It's all about that preemptive nerf! :P


There is a stock variant (the B ) with 2 Gauss Rifles and 2 LBX 2s. Should be able to drop the lbx's for more ammo, armor, and a couple ER MLs.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 22 May 2015 - 09:45 AM.






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