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[Burktross]

Roadkill, on 22 May 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

I think the key to something like this working would be for it to be a permanent change to a selected Mech, not a cockpit item.

For $10 (or whatever) you can make any Mech a Champion with +30% bonus to c-bills earned. But once the bonus is applied to a Mech, it is permanently attached to that Mech, cannot be removed, does not add to the sale value of the Mech, etc, etc.

Yup!

[Kyynele]

Honestly, I don't care the least bit if the mech I'm driving has a C-Bill or exp bonus. I don't stress about C-Bills, I play to have fun, and choose mechs with fun loadouts. C-Bills seem to accumulate while doing that.

I also get bored of driving the same mech for long periods of time, and my absolute favorite mech ever typically changes at least monthly. Upgrading all the mechs I like a lot to heroes would be too expensive to consider, even if it was priced lowish, so I likely would not buy them, for any mech.

Premium time is good, gives a noticeable bonus, and doesn't restrict me to using anything specific.

I'm not opposed to your suggestion, just answering the question. It might be just the greatest thing for someone else.

[Burktross]

Kyynele, on 22 May 2015 - 04:54 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't care the least bit if the mech I'm driving has a C-Bill or exp bonus. I don't stress about C-Bills, I play to have fun, and choose mechs with fun loadouts. C-Bills seem to accumulate while doing that.

I also get bored of driving the same mech for long periods of time, and my absolute favorite mech ever typically changes at least monthly. Upgrading all the mechs I like a lot to heroes would be too expensive to consider, even if it was priced lowish, so I likely would not buy them, for any mech.

Premium time is good, gives a noticeable bonus, and doesn't restrict me to using anything specific.

I'm not opposed to your suggestion, just answering the question. It might be just the greatest thing for someone else.

Maybe it's just the CB Trial mech income [read: ~60k on wins] that has made us so keen on staring at our cbill accumulation then.
Post Traumatic Cbill Disorder?

[Bullseye69]

Sale a token like a hanging item that gives you that bonus make it mc and one use only not removable and has to be for that weight class.is light medium heavy or assault.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Roadkill, on 22 May 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

I think the key to something like this working would be for it to be a permanent change to a selected Mech, not a cockpit item.

For $10 (or whatever) you can make any Mech a Champion with +30% bonus to c-bills earned. But once the bonus is applied to a Mech, it is permanently attached to that Mech, cannot be removed, does not add to the sale value of the Mech, etc, etc.

Agreed, has to be permanent..
Otherwise people will start demanding "Give us a way to strip all modules c-bill tokens!" lol.

[Bishop Steiner]

Appogee, on 22 May 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

We already have a way to earn +30% on our favourite chassis. It's called Premium Time ... and it gives you +50%.

The real issue here is that, even running Hero Mechs with Premium Time, it still takes way too long to be able to buy new Mechs.

Grind is out of control.

ayup...so having that Premium Time WHILE running your favorite chassis also getting 30% more wouldn't reduce that grind? Interesting theory.

Darth Bane001, on 22 May 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

Personally no. This is supposed to be a fair free to play game set in the mechwarrior universe.

This clearly isn't and never was truly the case.

Way too many options for pay that you cant get by grinding that are better mechs, maybe not by a huge amount but can make a difference.

and this would change that how? Umm..they are the exact mechs you get for cbills...you just end up with less grind. Do love the shortsightedness.

Burktross, on 22 May 2015 - 03:41 PM, said:

You're right, let's lessen it by allowing us to get that extra 30% on all mechs.


These aren't better mechs. They're the exact same mech with a cbill bonus, a la Founders, Phoenix, Resistance, or Invasion variants.


Suit yourself I suppose.

Also, Bishop, made this so that people don't glance over the link

[url="http://strawpoll.me/4427469"][img]http://i.imgur.com/78Pyjs2.png[/img][/url]

Yields you this-- a clickable image.

doesn't seem to work when I put it in the OP.

[Burktross]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 05:09 PM, said:

ayup...so having that Premium Time WHILE running your favorite chassis also getting 30% more wouldn't reduce that grind? Interesting theory.


and this would change that how? Umm..they are the exact mechs you get for cbills...you just end up with less grind. Do love the shortsightedness.


doesn't seem to work when I put it in the OP.

Try ticking the lightswitch on the upper left and then paste it in.

[Bishop Steiner]

Burktross, on 22 May 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:

I believe the angle of approach would be "hey friend i see that hunchback you've had since CB, how would you like it if we heroize it?"
"well, ok"
"*grid iron MC cost* please"
"ok"
"Alright friend, you have 30% cbill bonus congrats."
"Noice."

No refit or skill grinding necessary.

well, I don't think it should be as expensive as a Hero. No unique hardpoints, paint going into it. No extra work for PGI. Pretty much..one has a line of code that say ¨SHOW ME THE MONEY", and one doesn't.

[Soul Tribunal]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

Kind of like a combo of the Hero and Champion ideas.

Get the lovely 30% Cbill bonus, but no special hardpoints and geometry. Just literally pick and choose from every available Chassis, and get your favorite mechs with Cbill boosts.

Fan of the HBK-4J, but don't like the GridIron (and like me, find Champions to be pointless)?
Don't care for the Boars Head, but want to get a bonus from your AS7-RS or D-DC instead?

TBH, I don't like a lot of the Heroes. I'm fortunate, that my Favorite Mech, the HBK-4G is also my Founder's Mech. But what about for the people like Burktross who love the 4G, and want to get premium results. Why should he have to drive a GridIron? Why not just a HBK-4G that you can paint however you want, that just earns you that same 30% Cbill bonus?

And best part, is it doesn't invalidate Heroes, because they still have their unique paint and hardpoints, and the Package Mech still get their geometry and package goodies.

Obviously, these would still be MC only, like Champions and Heroes. The Stock HBK-4G, for instance, is 1480 MC. The Champion HBK-4P is 1800 MC. A GridIron? 3750 MC. Considering it would be a Bonestock HBK-4G, needing to upgrade to DHS, Endo, etc, would 2000 MC be out of line?

What do you think, as a concept, and what ideas do you have for price points compared to existing options?


I'm sure that people would LOVE to have FS9-A, or TDR-5SS that they could get 30% cbill boosts on in CW. I'd buy Premium Versions of the VND-1AA, UM-R60, HBK-4J, CN9-D, ENF-4R and the CPLT-K2 pretty much guaranteed.

Seems like it would be one of the easiest and quickest revenue streams PGI could add, wouldn't it?

http://strawpoll.me/4427469/r

thx Burk!

I would be okay with this, I've never been fond of being stuck to one particular Chassis for the Grind in any game.
Getting to choose my own would be really cool, and something that I would gladly spend some $$$ on if I got a chance to make the Chassis I want work even more for me.

You should make a poll, and then link it in a tweet. Maybe enough attention like we did once before would get us a success.

-ST

[Bishop Steiner]

Mister Blastman, on 22 May 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

I'm voting no yes both on game direction and also because I don't believe they should have another revenue stream. I'm doing this out of spite because I don't think they've earned it. I won't buy it. PGI works too hard on monetizing premium content versus delivering content and then monetizing later based on the merits of their performance.

It is frustrating because damnit, I want this to be a good game.

and denying them revenue helps it become a good game, how, exactly?

Spite, has an odd way of blinding people.

[Wintersdark]

Roadkill, on 22 May 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

I think the key to something like this working would be for it to be a permanent change to a selected Mech, not a cockpit item.

For $10 (or whatever) you can make any Mech a Champion with +30% bonus to c-bills earned. But once the bonus is applied to a Mech, it is permanently attached to that Mech, cannot be removed, does not add to the sale value of the Mech, etc, etc.

Yup, it would have to be like this.

[CDLord HHGD]

I think that if you buy a mech with MC (versus CB) then there should be an inherent bonus equal to or slightly less than the (x)/H variants. Of course this would completely invalidate the "Champion" lineup, but I am OK with that.

[Bishop Steiner]

Burktross, on 22 May 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

Try ticking the lightswitch on the upper left and then paste it in.

huh....so that's what that does. Well, IDK what it does, actually, aside form make my text ugly...and the link work. But it did do that!

[FupDup]

cdlord, on 22 May 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:

I think that if you buy a mech with MC (versus CB) then there should be an inherent bonus equal to or slightly less than the (x)/H variants. Of course this would completely invalidate the "Champion" lineup, but I am OK with that.

Is there anybody who even buys champions anyways?

[Bishop Steiner]

cdlord, on 22 May 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:

I think that if you buy a mech with MC (versus CB) then there should be an inherent bonus equal to or slightly less than the (x)/H variants. Of course this would completely invalidate the "Champion" lineup, but I am OK with that.

I've always thought the Champion Concept was kind of piss poor, TBH. I have more XP and GXP than I know what to do with. Once I grind a particular mech to Mastery, that XP bonus is of limited use. Personally, I'd take Cbills, any day of the week.

[CDLord HHGD]

FupDup, on 22 May 2015 - 05:18 PM, said:

Is there anybody who even buys champions anyways?

I have on accident....

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 22 May 2015 - 05:18 PM, said:

Is there anybody who even buys champions anyways?

There's a sucker born everyday, goes the saying, so I'm sure someone has bought one. Maybe even two.

I'm sure they have seen a heavy return on them.

cdlord, on 22 May 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

I have on accident....

we promise not to tell anybody..... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Burktross]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

huh....so that's what that does. Well, IDK what it does, actually, aside form make my text ugly...and the link work. But it did do that!

It enables BB code formatting
Whenever I bold my text like this
it appears in the lightswitch / bbcode like this

[b]this[/b]

[XX Sulla XX]

I would also like to be able to pay and "hero-ize" any mech. To often the Heros and Primes are not the best variant so you have no good reason to play them.

[Mister Blastman]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 May 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

and denying them revenue helps it become a good game, how, exactly?

Spite, has an odd way of blinding people.

By helping them realize they need to buck up, put their heads down and grind out something worth selling.