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#1 Baron Cunedda Kell

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:21 PM

YOU NERFED THE ONLY MECHS WE HAD A CHANCE AGAINST INNERSPHERE MECHS... the other mechs sucks...I paid over 1k over Real life money in this gam and I am getting my butt kicked in CW matches by pugs...I could have understood against a 12 man...but basic pugs against a 12 man against CWI was whipped.....by pugs.. I don't understand what your thought process is... but its screwed up.... if you wish us to play the other mechs, then fix them...like the Gargoyle mech.... I can't even put the same build in it, like I do in the timberwolf and storm crow, before you ripped the only mechs we a chance against IS mechs... yeah I am calling you out on this ...WTF!......I get you need to make money and you need to attempt to balance it, but screwing th clans over to make a buck pisses me off, is I've bought ever pack you put out since overlord..

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:23 PM

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#3 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:24 PM

If you are playing the TBR and SCR and losing, you are either doing it wrong...or really bad.

Sorry to be the guy to break it to you.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:26 PM

Sorry, Ryoken and MAD CAT are still just fine, both are still very versatile mechs.

My Clan account was not effected by the negative quirks.

They also brought the positive quirks on the Stalker and Firestarters down a little, (Though they need to come down a little more still)

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:28 PM

View PostLordred, on 22 May 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

Sorry, Ryoken and MAD CAT are still just fine, both are still very versatile mechs.

My Clan account was not effected by the negative quirks.

They also brought the positive quirks on the Stalker and Firestarters down a little, (Though they need to come down a little more still)

This is true, on all accts. And the TDR needs to be addressed, though I'm not sure who would wail more like a maiden protecting their virginity-...... IS Schmucks needing their Thud-Crutch, or Clan-Bads with their VomitWolf and PukeCrow.


Buncha whiny little girls on both sides.

#6 LORD TSARKON

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:32 PM

Well my drop deck is 1 Timberwolf + 3 Stormcrows... only 1 of which has a Gauss...

All I see in CW right now is a field of enemy ECM... Hellbringers and Summoners... so much ECM... and EVERYOne has Gauss.... I think even saw a Kit Fox with Gauss....

Thats all there is right now.... ECM and Gauss

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:50 PM

I hear what you are saying, your reliance on overpowered mechs has left you out of your depth against opponents with equal mechs and more skill. Don't fear you will work your way back to your peers in 10-20(k) matches

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:57 PM

The TW and SC are just fine. Still some of the best mechs in the game.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:57 PM

Eh?

I'm totally neutral. Unaligned through the history of BattleTech and unaligned now.

The Timber is the most downright versatile mech in this game right now bar none. Despite the laser nerfs it is still tier 0.

The Crow has taken more of a hit due to its lower weight but overall it's still top of tier 1.

I understand your tears because the clans lack good alternatives but at the same time it's no excuse to allow god tier mechs.

The nerf is fine and it should stick.

See what Wave 3 brings. The new mechs should soften the blow.

Edited by Kyocera, 22 May 2015 - 05:58 PM.


#10 TLBFestus

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:07 PM

View PostBaron Cunedda Kell, on 22 May 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:

YOU NERFED THE ONLY MECHS WE HAD A CHANCE AGAINST INNERSPHERE MECHS... the other mechs sucks...I paid over 1k over Real life money in this gam and I am getting my butt kicked in CW matches by pugs...I could have understood against a 12 man...but basic pugs against a 12 man against CWI was whipped.....by pugs.. I don't understand what your thought process is... but its screwed up.... if you wish us to play the other mechs, then fix them...like the Gargoyle mech.... I can't even put the same build in it, like I do in the timberwolf and storm crow, before you ripped the only mechs we a chance against IS mechs... yeah I am calling you out on this ...WTF!......I get you need to make money and you need to attempt to balance it, but screwing th clans over to make a buck pisses me off, is I've bought ever pack you put out since overlord..


Since your spelling and syntax are obviously compromised by your rage, I will try to interpret your post;

" I'm upset that I spent lots of money and you aren't catering to me as much as you have in the past".

In reality, depending on the quality of the next pack, all PGI is saying is that they can't keep the same mechs "pay to win enough" for too long before they move on to the next group. Otherwise it really is pay to win.

#11 Kiiyor

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:13 PM

The only change I've noticed is that if I spy a lone enemy in my StormCrow, I put a little forethought into my attack plan, rather than muttering "I got this" and charging straight in like I used to.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:16 PM

View PostKyocera, on 22 May 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:


The nerf is fine and it should stick.

See what Wave 3 brings. The new mechs should soften the blow.



Exactly why I asked for a refund, no point paying when I can just wait for PGI to knee jerk (again) and nerf the crap out of them.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:23 PM

View PostLORD TSARKON, on 22 May 2015 - 05:32 PM, said:

Well my drop deck is 1 Timberwolf + 3 Stormcrows... only 1 of which has a Gauss...




My laughable ass dropdeck

SSRM Summoner
x7 MPL SCR
Laser Hellbringer
Nova x6 mlas x6 slas x4 MG

.......been wreckign things with it sadly enough.


must. max. points.

Edited by Yokaiko, 22 May 2015 - 06:25 PM.


#14 lshtaria

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:24 PM

View PostYokaiko, on 22 May 2015 - 06:16 PM, said:



Exactly why I asked for a refund, no point paying when I can just wait for PGI to knee jerk (again) and nerf the crap out of them.

But you have to ask yourself what the problem is (for you)?

Do you feel like you're paying for "clan power"? Is that why you bought Wave 3?

I'm sorry but within this environment PGI is doing the best it can to balance a whole clusterfrig of stuff when it comes to IS vs Clan. If you bought into the clans just to be all powerful and godly then I'm sorry but they are trying to rectify the years of BattleTech mistakes.

Clans are a certain "flavour" and right now I like that flavour and customisability they have. Power? No way. We're in 2015 now not 1995.

Love them or hate them, PGI are almost managing to do something that no-one else has done before - balance IS vs Clans.

Edited by Kyocera, 22 May 2015 - 06:25 PM.


#15 Yokaiko

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:27 PM

View PostKyocera, on 22 May 2015 - 06:24 PM, said:

But you have to ask yourself what the problem is (for you)?

Do you feel like you're paying for "clan power"? Is that why you bought Wave 3?




No I already felt that IS was slightly more powerful, so them nerfing the clan mechs (none of which I had ridden in weeks) was sort of a wake up call.

The IS mechs are a HELL of a lot easier to drive, going back to clan today is like playing on hardmode.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:27 PM

View PostKiiyor, on 22 May 2015 - 06:13 PM, said:

The only change I've noticed is that if I spy a lone enemy in my StormCrow, I put a little forethought into my attack plan, rather than muttering "I got this" and charging straight in like I used to.


Yeah, the only mech I can do that in now is the lOPcust. My CW TW build didn't get hurt at all. Four ASRM6 and 5 Small Pulse. Still kills tons of stuff and jumps around like the mad hatter. I see nothing to complain about with these nerfs.

#17 Yokaiko

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:28 PM

View PostKyocera, on 22 May 2015 - 06:24 PM, said:


Love them or hate them, PGI are almost managing to do something that no-one else has done before - balance IS vs Clans.



....and no, PGI can't balance out of a paper bag on their best day.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:28 PM

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:30 PM

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#20 lshtaria

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:32 PM

View PostYokaiko, on 22 May 2015 - 06:27 PM, said:



No I already felt that IS was slightly more powerful, so them nerfing the clan mechs (none of which I had ridden in weeks) was sort of a wake up call.

The IS mechs are a HELL of a lot easier to drive, going back to clan today is like playing on hardmode.

To be fair I find driving clan mechs easymode in PUGlandia. I know CW might be different but I can't bear to play that mode.

PGI ARE doing ok with balancing. The only problem is overquirking some of the IS mechs.

I'm right with that last statement, you know I am.





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