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[Sergeant Random]

http://www.washingto...tter/?tid=sm_fb

Banhammers everywhere! Do not fear, it might not yet be the death of free speech. But network admins rule on the internet. Doesnt matter how free you are in your country.

Freedom has its price. Responsibility.

[El Bandito]

Same moral story everywhere. Don't be a douchebag.

[Triordinant]

It's about time they cracked down on scumbags.

[XX Sulla XX]

Sergeant Random, on 28 May 2015 - 01:00 AM, said:

http://www.washingto...tter/?tid=sm_fb

Banhammers everywhere! Do not fear, it might not yet be the death of free speech. But network admins rule on the internet. Doesnt matter how free you are in your country.

Freedom has its price. Responsibility.

Honestly when I see the same basic story on many websites/news sites all from the same side of the political spectrum I makes me wonder if there is not more to the story. And this goes either way.

One article I found did state. "Others consider it a damning insult. To some, Charles is a toxic troll, abusing the system. To an equal number of people, he’s a maverick and a truth teller." http://observer.com/...campaign=buffer

Any way never heard of him before. But seems more a case of the half of people that think he is a troll being glad about this.

Edited by XX Sulla XX, 28 May 2015 - 02:51 AM.

[Lord Ikka]

PSA- the First Ammendment has nothing to do with private enterprises' decisions to censor/enforce their own set of rules. The only thing it governs is the relationship between a citizen's speech and the government's response. If you are going to try to use the Constitution as a defense for your hate-speech, at least learn how it works.

[LordBraxton]

Twitter can do whatever it wants, but I'm sure a lot of nastier things get overlooked on twitter if they are popular opinion.

[Sergeant Random]

Although it would be a boring world if there were an indiscriminate and wholesale banning of all the different flavors of troll.

There are almost harmless nonsense trolls, meme trolls, all the way to inciting-to-revolution trolls. There is actually some entertainment value watching folks try to put the righteous in righteous indignation (and fail or succeed in certain degrees).

Biggest danger is their effects on naive or misinformed audiences. So the admins may be justified by not wanting to sponsor the troll's media exposure.

Look at Inner Sphere politics: what would it be without intrigue and human drama? Not that intrigue is good, but what is it about these fictions, anecdotes, and urban legends that can stimulate the mind for some learning? (Hopefully good - or at least harmless - or maybe thought provoking) (but "provoking" can be misconstrued - so judge wisely).

[Egomane]

I am missing the part where this is about MWO.

[mogs01gt]

I never realized people care about Twitter. I always felt it was pushed by the media.

[Nightmare1]

What's Twitter?

[Crotch RockIt]

mogs01gt, on 28 May 2015 - 05:02 AM, said:

I never realized people care about Twitter. I always felt it was pushed by the media.

Russ cares about Twitter.

[Lord0fHats]

Lord Ikka, on 28 May 2015 - 02:48 AM, said:

PSA- the First Ammendment has nothing to do with private enterprises' decisions to censor/enforce their own set of rules. The only thing it governs is the relationship between a citizen's speech and the government's response. If you are going to try to use the Constitution as a defense for your hate-speech, at least learn how it works.

Not gonna jump up and say Twitter Admins don't frequently overuse their positions (cause they do), but seriously. Civics is important people

[Parnage Winters]

I wouldn't be so quick to praise a public platform for banning a person for having opinions(admittedly stupid ones) on a games forum who's dev's have a long history of trying to control opinions they didn't want to see about the game.

In reality, good luck banning someone from something on the internet.

[Cyborne Elemental]

This is one of those perfect, "who gives a crap" moments.

[MechWarrior5152251]

He wasn't banned for "speech". He was banned for soliciting funds to kill an activist.... Not really the same thing...

Now if they start banning people from saying 9/11 was an Inside Job, then they would be banning speech, and the truth....

[Joseph Mallan]

MechWarrior5152251, on 28 May 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

He wasn't banned for "speech". He was banned for soliciting funds to kill an activist.... Not really the same thing...

Now if they start banning people from saying 9/11 was an Inside Job, then they would be banning speech, and the truth....

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Edited by Joseph Mallan, 28 May 2015 - 06:15 AM.

[Dino Might]

Lord Ikka, on 28 May 2015 - 02:48 AM, said:

PSA- the First Ammendment has nothing to do with private enterprises' decisions to censor/enforce their own set of rules. The only thing it governs is the relationship between a citizen's speech and the government's response. If you are going to try to use the Constitution as a defense for your hate-speech, at least learn how it works.

Thank you for posting that. I grow weary of people citing the Constitution in regards to private/commercial entities, and it drives me up a wall.

Oh, and Mechwarrior5152251...
I like your style - much irony was had by all, and there was much rejoicing.

edit: not-so-ninja edit to be the first to say, "welcome to K-town!"

Edited by Dino Might, 28 May 2015 - 06:38 AM.

[operatorZ]

MechWarrior5152251, on 28 May 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

He wasn't banned for "speech". He was banned for soliciting funds to kill an activist.... Not really the same thing...

Now if they start banning people from saying 9/11 was an Inside Job, then they would be banning speech, and the truth....

[Mister Blastman]

Lord Ikka, on 28 May 2015 - 02:48 AM, said:

PSA- the First Ammendment has nothing to do with private enterprises' decisions to censor/enforce their own set of rules. The only thing it governs is the relationship between a citizen's speech and the government's response. If you are going to try to use the Constitution as a defense for your hate-speech, at least learn how it works.

Unfortunately not even this is respected by many states and federal appellate court circuits. And that's enough of that. This is a forum about 'mechs, not politics--because stuff is sure to get nasty here... FAST!

[Karl Marlow]

Relevance to mwo? Also despite the title of the story he wasn't banned for trolling. He was banned for ma k ing death threats and soliciting violence.