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#1 kittehcamando

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 08:56 PM

Please Help Protect the Crimson Kesheck!
Err... Red Wolves!

As Clan Wolf in Exile, we're trying to help some fellow exiled wolves. Times have been hard in Steiner space... I mean New York. Actually all over if you happen to be a wolf. We're trying to help raise funds to help the Wolf Conservation Center of New York. Residents of the Inner Sphere and Outer Perephery can appreciate the desperation of the endangered red wolves.

Whether a clanner, merc, or member of the great houses... This is your opportunity to be a "Warden Wolf" and help protect.

100% of donations will be going to the wolf recovery act for the red wolf, as well as education for Terran community, and bring awareness of these to beautiful creatures. Our goal is to raise a Minimum of $500 . To learn more about the red wolf please click here. http://nywolf.org/ou.../ssp/red-wolves . Together we can make a difference, will you stand with us? To donate to this cause please go here. http://www.gofundme.com/vgpy8zc

Your most humble Wardens,
The Star Wolves.

#2 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:09 PM

meanwhile ~0.7-1 bln people in the world starve...
red wolves are more important, no doubt

also offtopic

#3 Eboli

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:28 PM

Hmmmm, you very first post and you are asking for money...

#4 Jae Hyun Nakamura

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:19 PM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 01 June 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

meanwhile ~0.7-1 bln people in the world starve...
red wolves are more important, no doubt

also offtopic


You put the life of humans on a higher level of importance as the life of an animal? I don't. The life of a human beeing has to be set equal to the life of every animal which we share one world with. And if you think of how cruel it is what the so called civilized part of this world does to the less civilized world, try to think about what they do to all the animals and the nature around them. Examples? Killing whales or elephants for beauty products, destroying hectars of rain forest and therefor the environment of many other animals for furniture or soja plantations. And as an exclusive to humanity however, we always take more than we need.

Here you have a forum member who is trying to help and inform people about it in a nice and intelligent way and you have nothing better to do then bringing this member down with your comment?

Oh little kitty...grow your mind.

Peace

#5 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:29 PM

Should be in off-topic.

I don't see how it relates to Mechwarrior.

#6 Axeface

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:31 PM

View PostJae Hyun Nakamura, on 01 June 2015 - 10:19 PM, said:

You put the life of humans on a higher level of importance as the life of an animal? I don't.


Neither do I.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:36 PM

View PostJae Hyun Nakamura, on 01 June 2015 - 10:19 PM, said:

You put the life of humans on a higher level of importance as the life of an animal? I don't. The life of a human beeing has to be set equal to the life of every animal which we share one world with. And if you think of how cruel it is what the so called civilized part of this world does to the less civilized world, try to think about what they do to all the animals and the nature around them. Examples? Killing whales or elephants for beauty products, destroying hectars of rain forest and therefor the environment of many other animals for furniture or soja plantations. And as an exclusive to humanity however, we always take more than we need.

Here you have a forum member who is trying to help and inform people about it in a nice and intelligent way and you have nothing better to do then bringing this member down with your comment?

Oh little kitty...grow your mind.

Peace


Yes, most normal people place humans as more important than animals. Duh. What the **** planet are you on.

I rarely say this but, if we ever encounter each other in game, I will systematically wreck your **** on sight.

#8 kesmai

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:41 PM

Wildlife conservation is very important. Saving a few of almost 8 billion human lives not so. But you may choose a appropriate forum, because this topic is not mechwarrior related.

Edited by kesmai, 01 June 2015 - 10:41 PM.


#9 Chuck Jager

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 01:51 AM

"Clan Wolf Whatever" and "Save the Wolves Whatever" is all about as relevant to me in how the game plays. I think "Clan Wolf Whatever" maybe has 1-2 more paragraphs in game, but I may be mistaken.

#10 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 01:56 AM

View PostEboli, on 01 June 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

Hmmmm, you very first post and you are asking for money...

Why fiddle around with small talk. Cut to the meat. I like it.

Kitty... Its to early, so I will write this off as not recognizing sarcasm.

#11 Nightmare1

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 05:07 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 01 June 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

meanwhile ~0.7-1 bln people in the world starve...
red wolves are more important, no doubt

also offtopic


Starving People can eat Red Wolves mayhap? :lol:

...and New York has wolves? I thought it was alligators that were running amok in the sewers! :blink:

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 05:19 AM

View PostJae Hyun Nakamura, on 01 June 2015 - 10:19 PM, said:

You put the life of humans on a higher level of importance as the life of an animal? I don't. The life of a human beeing has to be set equal to the life of every animal which we share one world with. And if you think of how cruel it is what the so called civilized part of this world does to the less civilized world, try to think about what they do to all the animals and the nature around them. Examples? Killing whales or elephants for beauty products, destroying hectars of rain forest and therefor the environment of many other animals for furniture or soja plantations. And as an exclusive to humanity however, we always take more than we need.

Here you have a forum member who is trying to help and inform people about it in a nice and intelligent way and you have nothing better to do then bringing this member down with your comment?

Oh little kitty...grow your mind.

Peace


So you say if there's an animal's (like a wolf or something less majestic as, say, a sloth) and your life at stake, you would be okay if someone would flip a coin if he could save only one of you?
Of course you wouln't (and don't you dare saying yes you would). You would scream "Save me, don't flip a coin, you idiot, I'm one of your kind, I'm more important than him, he'll die anyway in a few years".

hypocrite, naive little child


Also, this save-the-wolves only exists because of human sentimentality. Because they look nice and people want to preserve that.
If the blobfish (or some other ugly species) was at the brink of going extinct, the same people would look at it and say "Meh, guess they're not fit enough"
It's emotionally driven, not out of reason or responsibility.

Childish hypocrisy, that's all that is.



Of course our species is more important to us. Not because we consider ourselves intellectually superior (we are btw), but because it is OUR species. A wolf would always consider his species to be more important than humans or any other and so on (if they could grasp the concept, which they can't).

I'm not saying we should kill everything we can.
We should take only what we need, etc., and show responsibility (because of our intellect), but at the end of the day, still animals die, humans die, whole races die.

You can also see it this way:
Nature created humans. If its other creations can't adapt as fast as we can, what would nature say?
It wouldn't say "OMG you have to save my children". That's not how nature works. It would "say" (if it could) "kill the lousy suckers".

Edited by Paigan, 02 June 2015 - 05:25 AM.


#13 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 09:56 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 01 June 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

meanwhile ~0.7-1 bln people in the world starve...
red wolves are more important, no doubt

also offtopic


View PostJae Hyun Nakamura, on 01 June 2015 - 10:19 PM, said:


You put the life of humans on a higher level of importance as the life of an animal? I don't. The life of a human beeing has to be set equal to the life of every animal which we share one world with. And if you think of how cruel it is what the so called civilized part of this world does to the less civilized world, try to think about what they do to all the animals and the nature around them. Examples? Killing whales or elephants for beauty products, destroying hectars of rain forest and therefor the environment of many other animals for furniture or soja plantations. And as an exclusive to humanity however, we always take more than we need.

Here you have a forum member who is trying to help and inform people about it in a nice and intelligent way and you have nothing better to do then bringing this member down with your comment?

Oh little kitty...grow your mind.

Peace


Meh...enough people on this planet already. We can afford for some of them to die. Too many idiots with kids that are going to have more idiots with kids anyway.

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:00 AM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 02 June 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

Meh...enough people on this planet already. We can afford for some of them to die. Too many idiots with kids that are going to have more idiots with kids anyway.


*Queue evil laugh and music*

OOh, spooky man!

You sound like a Commie or {Godwin's Law}... :blink:

Wonder how long before this yahoo gets moderated? Bets anyone?

#15 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:02 AM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 02 June 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

Meh...enough people on this planet already. We can afford for some of them to die. Too many idiots with kids that are going to have more idiots with kids anyway.

Dude, you're so edgy, i got a paper-cut just reading your post.

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:05 AM

Meanwhile people in Africa die for clean water, people starve, children in India go blind from lack of Vitamin A, ISIS advances, police are being attacked all throughout the US...

But let's ignore all that! This red wolf thing needs help!

EDIT: Also, your first post and you're already begging for money? I think I'll pass.

Edited by DavidHurricane, 02 June 2015 - 10:06 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:10 AM

View PostNightmare1, on 02 June 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:


*Queue evil laugh and music*

OOh, spooky man!

You sound like a Commie or {Godwin's Law}... :blink:

Wonder how long before this yahoo gets moderated? Bets anyone?


I'm not advocating genocide or anything. Do you really think we need more humans on this planet at this point?

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 02 June 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

Dude, you're so edgy, i got a paper-cut just reading your post.


Zing!

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:21 AM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 02 June 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:

I'm not advocating genocide or anything. Do you really think we need more humans on this planet at this point?


I believe that human life is sacred and special and certainly don't feel that, "We can afford for some of them to die."

That's a cold sentiment and illustrates a lack of humanity in yourself.

As for more people on the planet, I have no problem with that. I'm an engineer; I know better than to believe the latest Hollywood post-apocalyptic, over-population, fear-mongering movie or mass media darling shmooze. I'm confident in my ability, and the abilities of my fellow engineers, to devise solutions to such problems. In short, you won't find me hand-wringing and advocating for people to die or not be born. I'll be out there actually doing something to improve your quality of life as well as the quality of life for unborn millions, without ever receiving a thank you for it. I certainly take offense at the notion that I or someone in my family "can afford to die" simply because you are so gullible, short-sighted, and in possession of a stunted conscience.

Go crawl back into your hole.

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:35 AM

When will this be moved to K-Town? The birds need this.

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 10:43 AM

View PostDavidHurricane, on 02 June 2015 - 10:35 AM, said:

When will this be moved to K-Town? The birds need this.


Not so sure about birds. Considering the speed at which this thread is tanking, it may only be suitable for bottom feeders like Catfish.





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