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[Richard Hazen]

I've done as much as I can skill wise with the Orion K so I need to choose two other variants so I can unlock the elites, I'm not sure which ones to go for though. I can't get the Protector so it'll be two out of Orion M, V and VA, which do you suggest?

[BiggoB]

hi,

i had my best results with:
ORION ON1-VA
then
ORION ON1-V

don't own the M sorry. got the protector on sale and tried different loadouts. all with lots of fun and i used the protector for CW when it was 250 tons limit.
but even when you don't get the protector orions are fun mechs to play with

i like all my orions won't trade them

cheers

[Averen]

I'd definitly recommend the V for double (U)AC5 builds, which result in maybe surprisingly powerful, tough supportmechs (2xUAC/2xLL/STD280 is my favorite). The 24xASRM VA also can be a lot of fun, the variant is generally notable because of it's strong SRM6 and AC20 quirks!
M isn't really good for much, aside from the entertainingly silly 'rapid fire' LBX/ASRM4 builds. Not really worth the XL money, tho. Take it if you are a completionist, otherwise there isn't much going for it.

You might see a 'this is kinda like a timber but weaker' thing going on, but that's the story of the orion. At least SRMs and ACs are taking the main role, instead of the timbers ERGODML & friends. Still somehow love the mech. Not even sure why.^^'

Edited by Averen, 05 June 2015 - 07:25 AM.

[UrsusMorologus]

ON1-V - 2xAC5 2xERLL 1xLRM10

one of my most reliable performers and the only Orion I kept after the quirks

[Mazzyplz]

i got va, v and K

i put all the same loadouts on the 3 of them

1 gauss + 2 erll + 2srm4

[Mazzyplz]

Averen, on 05 June 2015 - 07:22 AM, said:

The 24xASRM VA also can be a lot of fun

beware of putting 4 srm6 in the orion's arms.

they are flimsy arms, and the convergence on these missiles is awful even with artemis - definitely not the platform for 4srm6.

griffin > awesome8r > catapult > stalker > jager'A' > orion (FOR 4xSRM6)

[Tarogato]

Question for the experienced Orion owners...

why not the ON1-M?

I was theory crafting the other day and this looks rather nice:

ON1-M - 3x LPL, 1x UAC/5 (STD280) -- XL320 version - 4% cooler, 10kph faster

It gets 20% cooldown for the UAC/5 and 12.5% each cooldown, heat generation, and duration for the LPLs.

It could also do a brawler build with 3x SRM6+A and has a 25% cooldown quirk for it, combined with a juicy 20% cooldown AC/20. I'm surprised this variant doesn't get more love.

Edited by Tarogato, 05 June 2015 - 08:15 AM.

[Averen]

Mazzyplz, on 05 June 2015 - 08:04 AM, said:

beware of putting 4 srm6 in the orion's arms.

they are flimsy arms, and the convergence on these missiles is awful even with artemis - definitely not the platform for 4srm6.

griffin > awesome8r > catapult > stalker > jager'A' > orion (FOR 4xSRM6)

The orion isn't the best SRM mech, but it's a solid one. The AC20+SRM builds are almost competetive if used correctly and well covered. You ranking is a bit off, to say the least. First, SRM-griffin and SRM-stalker basically beat every other IS-mech when it comes to SRM.
Awesomes, on the other hand, are one of the most vulnerable mech in the game because of their size and it's costly to attain good speeds above 75 ton (dont even mention XLs). Hardly makes a good brawler against any good player. Catapults are terrible SRM mechs, their covergence is around the same level as the Orion, but the arms are the most vulnerable parts in the whole of MWO!

Edited by Averen, 05 June 2015 - 08:35 AM.

[Averen]

Sorry for double post, but the quoting got mixed up a bit.

Tarogato, on 05 June 2015 - 08:14 AM, said:

Question for the experienced Orion owners...

why not the ON1-M?

I was theory crafting the other day and this looks rather nice:

ON1-M - 3x LPL, 1x UAC/5 (STD280) -- XL320 version - 4% cooler, 10kph faster

It gets 20% cooldown for the UAC/5 and 12.5% each cooldown, heat generation, and duration for the LPLs.

It could also do a brawler build with 3x SRM6+A and has a 25% cooldown quirk for it, combined with a juicy 20% cooldown AC/20. I'm surprised this variant doesn't get more love.

1 UAC is absolutely never worth it. Takes far too much attention, requires constant facing of the target, and just doesn't do enough damage to justify the shortcomings. 2 UACs tend to be very useful.
The V is especially better since it also also has 20% laser duration quirks. So you'll get 2 short LL bursts and the firepower/suppresion of 2 ultra-acs. Toyed around a lot with the mech, but never could find a better build.

Just checked the ON1 VA/Ms quirks, and i actually just forgot that the VA has no AC20 quirks anymore. The M variant btw can't equip a third ASRM6, though, since it a got CT-missile slot. Would be AC20+2xASRM6+ASRM4.
I guess that isn't much different to a VA. Latter one has a bit less AC20 cooldown, but more velocity and further reaching SRMs. So there isn't a huge difference, but i'd still recommend the VA for the additional missile slot and range. It's just a bit more of build variety, and everything relying on more than 2 laser is usually better served by the K.

[Mazzyplz]

lol.... stand by what i said - certainly not going to be corrected by someone with no backing to their words

[Heart of Storm]

I run a V with 3xSRM4, 2xAC5 and 2xML with an STD300 engine, its quite a neat little brawler

[Mazzyplz]

there is a good player named **** shipley who runs ON1-M

with 3 srm4, 4 medlas and 1 lbx10.
thing's a beast, wrecks.

https://youtu.be/0yQQWWkRytQ
check it out here, guy makes 800+ dmg you can see his loadout at the end (sorry if i give away your secrets **** )

arms aint too vulnerable here either

wow you can't say **** tracy? **** cheney? **** grayson?...
this auto censor thing is annoying, blocks out things that aren't even offensive

[Leone]

Actually, I've found the VA makes a better LRM mech than an srm mech.

Both the V and the VA make decent ranged mechs, much better than they do brawling for me.

My V finally started doing good when I set it up with an ac10, two ppcs and dual lrm 5s.

~Leone, Raid Leader of the Crimson Hand.

[Mazzyplz]

Leone, on 12 June 2015 - 07:52 PM, said:

Actually, I've found the VA makes a better LRM mech than an srm mech.

Both the V and the VA make decent ranged mechs, much better than they do brawling for me.

My V finally started doing good when I set it up with an ac10, two ppcs and dual lrm 5s.

~Leone, Raid Leader of the Crimson Hand.

that's how i play my orions; ranged. (gauss + erll)

i really can't do brawling with such a slow torso twist, but if you can pull it off with lbx and whatnot then that's great too

[Wildstreak]

Deimos Alpha, on 05 June 2015 - 06:57 AM, said:

I can't get the Protector ....

Don't know why, if you need a sale, the next Hero event will have the Protector on sale.