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[Pariah Devalis]

Wintersdark, on 09 June 2015 - 11:25 AM, said:

I'd be surprised if they launched with negative quirks, but to be fair: Of all the Clan mechs, only the TWolf and Scrow got nerf quirks - the rest where buffed. Not substantially buffed, mind you, but at least not nerfed more. And even the Twolf and Scrow had been out for a really long time before they got those nerfs.


Anyways, yeah, the CB probably won't have nerf quirks, and if it doesn't it'll mop the floor with Timberwolf juice.

That it is 10 tons lighter, and lesser armored as a result, might be the counter-balance. Lower durability, and it looks like it might have a fairly easy CT to hit, too, based on the art. All the guns in the world mean nothing if you're dead.

[Bishop Steiner]

Paigan, on 09 June 2015 - 01:22 AM, said:

You BT original fanboys (I was one of you once, decades ago) really have to understand one thing:

Most original stuff is based on ridiculously bad design, would be nowhere near viable, walkable, workable.
I don't mean 100% realism, I mean some Mechs COULD NOT WALK.

Things have to be overhauled a little bit with more professionality in order to ever see them walking on the battlefield.

PGI's Ebon Jaguar looks amazing, MUCH better than that strange pancake that is the original abomination.

most of us "fanboys" don't claim the original art was amazing. But it does set the flavor of the mech. Some of these could be done to capture the feel, and yet still look good. Plus as long as they look functional, that matters more than if they look "good" as most mechs are kinda ugly.

[ScarecrowES]

Wintersdark, on 09 June 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:

heh as it stands, the CB may nor totally dethrone the Timberwolf (unless it lacks those energy nerf quirks) but it'll be damned close. Better hard points, smaller frontal profile, same pod space.

Unless it ends up being terrible, I already have it pegged to take the place of one TBR and one SCR in my clan drop deck. 2 SCRs and 2 EBJs. 65-ton mechs just feel like home to me.

[Wintersdark]

Pariah Devalis, on 09 June 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

That it is 10 tons lighter, and lesser armored as a result, might be the counter-balance. Lower durability, and it looks like it might have a fairly easy CT to hit, too, based on the art. All the guns in the world mean nothing if you're dead.

It's a trivial armor difference. 8 points (total) in the CT, less everywhere else.

As to the CT, I imagine it'll have comparable hitboxes to the Timberwolf, given a fundamentally similar design. The TBR certainly has no issues with CT vulnerability.

But, you just never know about hitboxes until release.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wintersdark, on 09 June 2015 - 11:39 AM, said:

It's a trivial armor difference. 8 points (total) in the CT, less everywhere else.

As to the CT, I imagine it'll have comparable hitboxes to the Timberwolf, given a fundamentally similar design. The TBR certainly has no issues with CT vulnerability.

But, you just never know about hitboxes until release.

yet it's funny how many people QQ about the TBRs CT (or STs, or both) on here. Methinks a lot of folks can't twist.

[Sere Sudae]

Did you guys see the image in the Day 7 Countdown news posting?

Loots pretty squat and thick to me, based on the angles of the legs. I think they nailed it.

[Bishop Steiner]

Steel Fox, on 09 June 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

Did you guys see the image in the Day 7 Countdown news posting?

Loots pretty squat and thick to me, based on the angles of the legs. I think they nailed it.

one on the right is the in game model as of last update..... not too squat and thick

[Kristov Kerensky]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 June 2015 - 06:02 PM, said:

one on the right is the in game model as of last update..... not too squat and thick

And that's the one that isn't fully animated yet, it's not set, it's hanging loose, it sets lower, crouched, explained already, remember? Shesh, I thought me and Joseph were the ones with Oldtimers...

[Bishop Steiner]

Kristov Kerensky, on 09 June 2015 - 06:16 PM, said:

And that's the one that isn't fully animated yet, it's not set, it's hanging loose, it sets lower, crouched, explained already, remember? Shesh, I thought me and Joseph were the ones with Oldtimers...

Yeah, like they set the Vulture and Mad Dog lower instead of overly upright in posture...... oh wait.......

Believe it when I see it. It's something they have consistently failed on with the Omnis.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 June 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

Yeah, like they set the Vulture and Mad Dog lower instead of overly upright in posture...... oh wait.......

Believe it when I see it. It's something they have consistently failed on with the Omnis.

If it sets THAT high...nah...they can't be THAT effing stupid....

can they?

Damnit Bishop, you and your effing logic and reality...

[Axeface]

Steel Fox, on 09 June 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

Did you guys see the image in the Day 7 Countdown news posting?

Loots pretty squat and thick to me, based on the angles of the legs. I think they nailed it.

Am I looking at the same image as you?

The cauldron-born's pelvis area is HIGHER than the executioners. It's legs are going to be massive, as far as I can see it is the opposite of 'squat'. Maybe the cauldron-borns standing on a chair.

On a side note, does the CB remind anyone else of 'Stingray'? (From the tv series).

Edited by Axeface, 09 June 2015 - 06:34 PM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Looking at the new shot in the news...it DOES appear to be sitting lower and looks thicker, that view is definitely looking almost straight up, and those thighs are NOT standing straight up or even close to that...

[Bishop Steiner]

Kristov Kerensky, on 09 June 2015 - 06:29 PM, said:

Looking at the new shot in the news...it DOES appear to be sitting lower and looks thicker, that view is definitely looking almost straight up, and those thighs are NOT standing straight up or even close to that...

believe it or not, even though I never cared for the chassis, I sure don't want them to screw it up. I just expect them to.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Are we still bitching about the god damned cauldron born?

Really?

Edited by Sigilum Sanctum, 09 June 2015 - 06:38 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 09 June 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

Are we still bitching about the god damned cauldron born?

Really?

Yes. Yes we are. Your point?

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 June 2015 - 06:39 PM, said:

Yes. Yes we are. Your point?

Can we at least wait until it gets in game to see if its truly fubar? At that point by all means light the torches and grab the pitch forks if its anywhere as bad as the Jager and Cataphract adjustments.

But jesus christ guys.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 09 June 2015 - 06:40 PM, said:

Can we at least wait until it gets in game to see if its truly fubar? At that point by all means light the torches and grab the pitch forks if its anywhere as bad as the Jager and Cataphract adjustments.

But jesus christ guys.

In case you didn't know this, it takes TIME to form up a proper angry mob with torches and pitchforks, have to work them up to a fever pitch first you know.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kristov Kerensky, on 09 June 2015 - 08:16 PM, said:

In case you didn't know this, it takes TIME to form up a proper angry mob with torches and pitchforks, have to work them up to a fever pitch first you know.

Amateurs. What can you do?

Pass the tar and feathers, please?

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 June 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

Yeah, like they set the Vulture and Mad Dog lower instead of overly upright in posture...... oh wait.......

Believe it when I see it. It's something they have consistently failed on with the Omnis.

While I get where you're coming from, that wasn't the "in game model", it was the model shown in the modeling software, in t-pose.

Maybe it won't be squat enough for your tastes, but it won't look like that in game.

[Juodas Varnas]

I find it kind of funny that people are asking to make their mechs squat, when i want my Quickdraw to actually straighten out her knees.

Sure it'd make her EVEN taller, but at least she'd look better that way

I, for one, waiting for more picture before i judge.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 June 2015 - 10:36 AM.