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[Dimento Graven]

Mudhutwarrior, on 09 June 2015 - 11:26 AM, said:

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I blame the tryhards for a lot but not this.

You keep using that word like it's supposed to be an insult.

Please, feel free to call me a 'tryhard' all you want, because YES goddamnit, apparently unlike you, I AM ACTUALLY TRYING HARD!

[627]

wait, you refund your 175$?

how do you guys think this works? "hey I play this game now for 3 years, so lets go to paypal and revert every transaction I ever made because I am bad at this game and had a bad week!"

[Zolaz]

MrMadguy, on 09 June 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I agree to have CW in this game due to one single reason - all so called "Meta" players are playing there instead of making public queue unplayable. I'm about to refund all my recent $175 worth payments and quit this game forever, but instead - I'm constantly taking a break to calm myself down and then to return to this game and give it another chance.

I have been playing another game for entire week. Then I decided to play MWO a little bit - I tried to play a pair of matches on weekend and tried to play today. And guess what? Game is completely unplayable now. Stomps, 2 second TTKs, oneshots, stomps and stomps again, again and again, And I guess it's due to all "Meta" players flooding public queue, because of public queue only event.

Keep them away from public queue, PGI! Because unplayable game - is absolutely not the best way to convince me not to quit this game. This game brings only one emotion - anger... And I don't want to kill my brain cells via being angry due to stupid video game. This is not what I'm paying for, sorry.

Playing MWO is a perishable skill. You go away and lose your ability to move and shoot. Your reaction time becomes slower, you become task saturated easier. But, you are right ... why worry about the things you can fix. It is the people who play and are training their skills who must be at fault. Those mean old meta players who didnt quit like you did. We must blame them.

MWO MM puts new players and unskilled players with everyone else. Imagine trying to go play a pickup basketball game with Micheal Jordan on your team or the other team.

[DAYLEET]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 June 2015 - 08:15 AM, said:

UMAD?

I loathe rmeta as much as anyone...but those results you are describing tend to describe bad situational awareness more than anything.

Yeah. Many times i think to myself that the MM should have given us the same number of "meta" in my team only to look at the score board and see that i probably had the same ammount. The stars didnt align and ours werent in as good a position as the enemy team or the rest of the team didnt play accordingly around those guys.

Yesterday i had the worst case of roflstom and the 3 consecutive times i was on the 12-0 winning team, those 3 times me and my friend had a hard time following the pack and finished the game with 50 and 30 damage, those are extremely boring game, win or lose.

Edited by DAYLEET, 09 June 2015 - 01:43 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

DAYLEET, on 09 June 2015 - 01:41 PM, said:

Yeah. Many times i think to myself that the MM should have given us the same number of "meta" in my team only to look at the score board and see that i probably had the same ammount. The stars didnt align and ours werent in as good a position as the enemy team or the rest of the team didnt play accordingly around those guys.

Yesterday i had the worst case of roflstom and the 3 consecutive times i was on the 12-0 winning team, those 3 times me and my friend had a hard time following the pack and finished the game with 50 and 30 damage, those are extremely boring game, win or lose.

Well, good news is just because someone runs a Meta Build...doesn't mean they are any good! Seen a lot of Bads lightsabering LLs around.

[bad arcade kitty]

could you list which builds are considered meta?
i wonder if my streakcrow meta or not

[mailin]

And to the OP, good luck refunding your money. How do you think that works anyway? BooHoo, me no happy, want money back! Yeah, okay. How's the weather in fantasyland?

bye

[Xmith]

MrMadguy, on 09 June 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I agree to have CW in this game due to one single reason - all so called "Meta" players are playing there instead of making public queue unplayable. I'm about to refund all my recent $175 worth payments and quit this game forever, but instead - I'm constantly taking a break to calm myself down and then to return to this game and give it another chance.

I have been playing another game for entire week. Then I decided to play MWO a little bit - I tried to play a pair of matches on weekend and tried to play today. And guess what? Game is completely unplayable now. Stomps, 2 second TTKs, oneshots, stomps and stomps again, again and again, And I guess it's due to all "Meta" players flooding public queue, because of public queue only event.

Keep them away from public queue, PGI! Because unplayable game - is absolutely not the best way to convince me not to quit this game. This game brings only one emotion - anger... And I don't want to kill my brain cells via being angry due to stupid video game. This is not what I'm paying for, sorry.

Unplayable?

Unplayable to me can only mean that you are having trouble logging in, video card acting up, controller problems, fps is too low, general computer problems and being blind.

[bad arcade kitty]

>fps is too low

not unplayable
i played my first games having 1-3 fps

[Speedy Plysitkos]

rage, byyyyye

[jlawsl]

MrMadguy, on 09 June 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I agree to have CW in this game due to one single reason - all so called "Meta" players are playing there instead of making public queue unplayable. I'm about to refund all my recent $175 worth payments and quit this game forever, but instead - I'm constantly taking a break to calm myself down and then to return to this game and give it another chance.

I have been playing another game for entire week. Then I decided to play MWO a little bit - I tried to play a pair of matches on weekend and tried to play today. And guess what? Game is completely unplayable now. Stomps, 2 second TTKs, oneshots, stomps and stomps again, again and again, And I guess it's due to all "Meta" players flooding public queue, because of public queue only event.

Keep them away from public queue, PGI! Because unplayable game - is absolutely not the best way to convince me not to quit this game. This game brings only one emotion - anger... And I don't want to kill my brain cells via being angry due to stupid video game. This is not what I'm paying for, sorry.

I don't even think that its what these players play, its how they play. Each one has their own best idea-deathball in x direction. I saw it a lot this weekend. It almost always led to a stomp in either direction. Traffic jams and venomous language were abundant where they normally aren't in the solo queue. There was no real fluidity to the game play, it was static and repetitive. I was glad that a lot of norms were broken as not everyone rushed the hill on Alpine or the center on Therma, but everyone was too good to follow through with stuff that didn't meet their game play style.

I don't know how many times I got seriously damaged simply because some guy was standing right behind me when an enemies started shooting at me. In their rush to get forward and get some points for the tournament, they didn't care if someone was getting eaten up in front of them, as long as they got their points. Lots of this in places like the ramps on HPG or Mining Collective. Nascar wasn't so bad, but it turned out that way in the end of a lot of matches. Lots of mechs running the exact same builds. So, I wouldn't say it was really horrible just annoying. Close games were very rare and stomps were the rule of the day. Most games ended with the losing teams getting 5 or less kills. Conquest was almost pointless.

It was a grind fest-pretty much getting the right games at the right times, 10 times. You needed 10 wins with at least a kill and 400+ damage and stay alive to get in the top 50. Staying alive and winning give x10 points over losing and dying, so it was pretty important. I played maybe 18-24 games this weekend if that. I get tired of grinding for the key matches, so I stopped.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Dimento Graven, on 09 June 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

You keep using that word like it's supposed to be an insult.

Please, feel free to call me a 'tryhard' all you want, because YES goddamnit, apparently unlike you, I AM ACTUALLY TRYING HARD!

It's not an insult but a description pretty much everyone understands. And yes unlike me you are actually trying hard. Me? I am playing a game. No monuments will be erected, no parades, no marching bands. If I feel any competition its with myself. I care not some jack whooped me at mech warriors. Wow, your a mouse master man.

[BlackDrakon]

My "meta" Nova will fry u non meta mech!! (is there a meta nova btw?) lol!!

[Ted Wayz]

I used to do what I thought was right in matches, ignoring what my team members were doing. The results sucked.

So I stopped being so smart. Spent more time watching what other players were doing and playing off their actions. Started supporting what the team was doing no matter how stupid it seems at first. Occasionally I will grab the reigns, but if the team wants to do something else that is what I will do The results are much much better.

In short I no longer put myself in a position where one very good player can ruin my day without having to answer a few of my team members at the same time.

[Tor6]

You can't fault players for using the most efficient options available to them, so long as they're not exploiting or cheating. It's on the game designers to create a balanced game wherein many different play-styles are possible and encouraged. This isn't to say that it's not frustrating to see the majority of players eschewing most of the potential weapons available, but you can't get mad at folks for not intentionally playing at a disadvantage. :/

[jlawsl]

I think it was fun to see a lot of unplayed mechs this weekend. What wasn't fun is when you have every single one with the exact same build. I think builds are good on a person to person basis. Just as people are better with certain mech classes, builds vary effectiveness from one person to the other. For people to play the exact same build means that they just looked it up. That's probably why you see a lot of people playing in the same lance, with the same mech, side by side, and there is a difference of hundreds of damage. I suffered because I was trying to find an AWS-PB build that worked for me. The 2 LPL 3 srm4 type build wasn't working for me. By the time I found my build, I had already tired of the grind anyway.

Running into the same stuff over and over isn't interesting. That's all other player's choices, but it is interesting to see some diversity every now and then.

[Crixus316]

Mudhutwarrior, on 09 June 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

I care not some jack whooped me at mech warriors. Wow, your a mouse master man.

Right, that's why you have over 2000 posts complaining about tryhards, sync-dropping, and where the evil pre-mades touched you. Funny how you complained about sync-dropping, until you got caught doing it. And then come up with some lame, BS about how you were doing it for the communities benefit. Face it Mud, you have always had a bug up your *** about anyone better or team playing. Just looking at your recent posts, you want entire units to be banned just because some members were banned for cheating.

[Kiiyor]

MrMadguy, on 09 June 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I agree to have CW in this game due to one single reason - all so called "Meta" players are playing there instead of making public queue unplayable. I'm about to refund all my recent $175 worth payments and quit this game forever, but instead - I'm constantly taking a break to calm myself down and then to return to this game and give it another chance.

I have been playing another game for entire week. Then I decided to play MWO a little bit - I tried to play a pair of matches on weekend and tried to play today. And guess what? Game is completely unplayable now. Stomps, 2 second TTKs, oneshots, stomps and stomps again, again and again, And I guess it's due to all "Meta" players flooding public queue, because of public queue only event.

Keep them away from public queue, PGI! Because unplayable game - is absolutely not the best way to convince me not to quit this game. This game brings only one emotion - anger... And I don't want to kill my brain cells via being angry due to stupid video game. This is not what I'm paying for, sorry.

While I was flipping through the blood and coolant inked pages of the M̨̬̦e̠̝̰̯̼̩̲ch̬̻͔͎̣̹r̦̭ò̝̺n͇̙͓͚̰͙͞o̳̺͓̞̩͉͜m͎̭i̞c̠͇̱̼̭̟͚o͝ͅn̩͓̮͘, the twisted tome of evil and arcane formulae that describes the function of the matchmaker, I stumbled across the following passage:

"Through the infernal science of E̸̘̘̪͈̖L͕͕͓̣̟̰͠O, the p̵i̷t́ile̡ss̵ algorithm that controls the destiny of so many teams, you can be assured that when the wizened husk of the matchm͈̤̖ạ͔͔͍̺k͎e̩r̙ bends it's will towards filling a team with fresh s̳̹̀ó̪͎̻͓̩u̸͓̦̥l̙͍͙̭̗͝s͢ for the g̻̮̠̠͚r͈̗̲͝ḭ̗̦̤̖̼͝nder, every '͏̗̩̞͎m͖͚ę̯̱̖̗̱t͇̟a̲'̨͉̦͓̲͈ͅͅ player shalt be balanced out by at least one 'm̺͉̤͈̹͝e̛͙̦̺̝̞̳̣t͏͓̥̯̺a̷͖͇͎͚' player of similar skill on the other team."

So, though you are complaining of 'meta', there's a good chance that the makeup of your team will include similar numbers of 'meta' players as the enemy. Though ELO and loadout aren't explicitly linked, most players don't achieve their current rating without at least partially bending to the will of popular meta.

The skill and loadout effectiveness of the rest of your hapless teammates is something else entirely - as most battles will likely be decided by the skill levels of the players that first meet and trade death.

Hence:

"Verily, if thou find thyse̸͒̑lͩ͝f̓ͯͦͥ͆ being sm̈́̓ĕ̎ͧ͆͋́̅år͆͛͒̽҉eͮ̕d̓͐ͣͥ into paste in the first exchange of o̢rd̴̰̬̺n̡̲a̬͝n̼̦͞c̮̹e̷̠̳͈, thou shouldst attempt to exercise pa̧͉̺̣͟t̶̨̠̗̦̜̖̞͓͝i̬͈͖̗̹͈̲͔e҉͚͈͍̪̣̜̙n̛͉͈̮̹̰̩̻̠͜c҉̣̠̩͉̲e͏̙̪ when first maneuvering to meet the e̜̥n͇̮̙͢é̼̥m̲̟͟ͅỳ̩̜̠̩̯. D̷̞̞̀eå̳̗̗̝̼t̤̬̼̞̼h̀͐̊ is patient, and cares not who meets him first, yet you should not rush to embrace him"

[Dimento Graven]

Mudhutwarrior, on 09 June 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

It's not an insult but a description pretty much everyone understands. And yes unlike me you are actually trying hard. Me? I am playing a game. No monuments will be erected, no parades, no marching bands. If I feel any competition its with myself. I care not some jack whooped me at mech warriors. Wow, your a mouse master man.

Whatever, if you're not willing to 'try hard' to beat your own last score, I pity you.

[Creovex]

MrMadguy, on 09 June 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I agree to have CW in this game due to one single reason - all so called "Meta" players are playing there instead of making public queue unplayable. I'm about to refund all my recent $175 worth payments and quit this game forever, but instead - I'm constantly taking a break to calm myself down and then to return to this game and give it another chance.

I have been playing another game for entire week. Then I decided to play MWO a little bit - I tried to play a pair of matches on weekend and tried to play today. And guess what? Game is completely unplayable now. Stomps, 2 second TTKs, oneshots, stomps and stomps again, again and again, And I guess it's due to all "Meta" players flooding public queue, because of public queue only event.

Keep them away from public queue, PGI! Because unplayable game - is absolutely not the best way to convince me not to quit this game. This game brings only one emotion - anger... And I don't want to kill my brain cells via being angry due to stupid video game. This is not what I'm paying for, sorry.

Didn't you spaz out last week about the same thing? quit already... your weekly quit rants are tiring...

Edited by Creovex, 09 June 2015 - 03:53 PM.