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[Pariah Devalis]

Well, since nobody else did it....

[Templar Dane]

Ha, I posted something similar in the other thread.

[bad arcade kitty]

it rather reminds me

[Johnny Z]

Its looks great. The intakes on the sides is a great touch.

LOL that goes for the piggy in the picture above this reply to.

Edited by Johnny Z, 10 June 2015 - 04:43 PM.

[Kira Onime]

I ****** my pants.

[Kiiyor]

VompoVompatti, on 10 June 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Those arms look like they are really far from each other. It almost looks like you can miss most mechs from both sides if they come and face hug you.

The Jager and the Crab have the same issue - but I think this mech makes up for it with usable torso mounts.

Assymetrical builds for the win.

[1453 R]

Like I said in the other thread - final scaling dependent, this might actually be flat enough to become something of an advantage. It's wide as hell, but a lot of that width are those gangly arm pylons that don't actually occupy much actual space, and of course the Bane nose grills.

Yeah, I'm probably going to have to name it Bane now, too..

ANYWAYS. A lot may depend on how much of those arm struts count as arm, hitbox-wixe. If most of those are arm, then the thing will likely shed arms like an Ice Ferret (which is bad ), but it'll have actually pretty excellent ST hitboxes, which will be amazing considering those skyhook ST hardpoints. If most of those struts are ST...well, it'll still be a top-tier distance 'Mech but its ability to go in close will be curtailed.

Even then though, everyone complaining that you'll "have to expose the entire upper half of the 'Mech!" to get its arms over the hill are failing to realize that "the entire upper half of the 'Mech" looks to be maybe a third of the design's overall height. It's wide as hell but flat as a flapjack - backing off below cover again will take maybe two steps, and it'll be those same two steps to get your guns over the ridge again.

I seriously don't see where the hootenanny and hullabaloo is on this machine. It's got some of the best hardpoint placements in all of MWO, flat-out, no questions asked, and its overall geometry is by no means 'Awesome'. C'mon, folks. It's not going to be awful unless it's somehow against all reason the size of a Krab, and even then. Even then. Much can be forgiven for those ST hardpoints.

Edited by 1453 R, 10 June 2015 - 04:23 PM.

[LordMelvin]

Navid A1, on 10 June 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

Well... um... I can't even... what?... WWWWTTTFFFF.



This better be a joke.

That's the Prime geometry. The other variants won't have it.

[Navid A1]

LordMelvin, on 10 June 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

That's the Prime geometry. The other variants won't have it.

yup that is exactly the thing that annoys me.

[IraqiWalker]

Navid A1, on 10 June 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

yup that is exactly the thing that annoys me.

Why? The Unique Geometry (UG) doesn't count towards the hitboxes. I guess it's an aesthetic thing for you? For me it looks cool as ice cream.

[Otto Cannon]

-If I shoot those side torsos will you die?

-It would be extremely painful

-Those are big hitboxes

-For you.

[IraqiWalker]

Otto Cannon, on 10 June 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

-If I shoot those side torsos will you die?

-It would be extremely painful

-Those are big hitboxes

-For you.

I'm not sure what this is from, but my Heresy-O-Meter is picking up large readings.

[Zordicron]

Well:

Looks a little shorter, prolly just from the animation. Me likey.

Now I know what the Bushwacker will be based on. Might be a tad big for it though, Bushwacker might be the next Nova if it isnt rescaled.

Now I also know what the Crab is going to mostly look like. Again, it might turn out a bit too big for a 50 ton mech.

[Navid A1]

IraqiWalker, on 10 June 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

Why? The Unique Geometry (UG) doesn't count towards the hitboxes. I guess it's an aesthetic thing for you? For me it looks cool as ice cream.

Its mostly an aesthetic concern. Alex did such a masterfully created EBJ. balanced lines and geometry... it was a masterpiece. The modelers totally destroyed it by their unique geo thingy. I thought the one posted on the wave 3 sale page was the (I) variant. it had all the invasion camo and colors. Actually i'm so disappointed and turned off by this.


btw... I know they don't count towards the hitbox (it will create a flame hurricane if it does)

Edited by Navid A1, 10 June 2015 - 05:45 PM.

[LordMelvin]

IraqiWalker, on 10 June 2015 - 05:09 PM, said:

I'm not sure what this is from, but my Heresy-O-Meter is picking up large readings.

https://youtu.be/VRCM0jWEQjQ?t=1m53s

It's a quote from The Dark Knight Rises

Edited by LordMelvin, 10 June 2015 - 06:05 PM.

[Airic Gryphon]

Navid A1, on 10 June 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

yup that is exactly the thing that annoys me.

I don't know much about modeling or programing, but is the expanded geometry part of the model or separate pieces added to the base model?

If they're separate, would it be possible for PGI to add a checkbox into the ui for each mech with some code that tells the game not to render the expanded geo if the box is ticked?

Seems like that would be the best of both worlds. Don't know how it would effect camo and such.

[IraqiWalker]

Navid A1, on 10 June 2015 - 05:44 PM, said:

Its mostly an aesthetic concern. Alex did such a masterfully created EBJ. balanced lines and geometry... it was a masterpiece. The modelers totally destroyed it by their unique geo thingy. I thought the one posted on the wave 3 sale page was the (I) variant. it had all the invasion camo and colors. Actually i'm so disappointed and turned off by this.


btw... I know they don't count towards the hitbox (it will create a flame hurricane if it does)

Okay. Thank you for explaining your viewpoint to me.

LordMelvin, on 10 June 2015 - 06:05 PM, said:

https://youtu.be/VRCM0jWEQjQ?t=1m53s

It's a quote from The Dark Knight Rises

Nevermind. Readings are back down. For a second there, it seemed to synchronize with an old forbidden text bearing a name similar to half-light. Should any copies be found, turn them over to your local inquisitorial offices.

Airic Gryphon, on 10 June 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

I don't know much about modeling or programing, but is the expanded geometry part of the model or separate pieces added to the base model?

If they're separate, would it be possible for PGI to add a checkbox into the ui for each mech with some code that tells the game not to render the expanded geo if the box is ticked?

Seems like that would be the best of both worlds. Don't know how it would effect camo and such.

I think they are part of the model, since camo applies to them (if they aren't then camo would not apply to them).

[Raggedyman]

I may actually consider getting one of these after all.

[Elizander]

It looks very nice. They did a good job on it.