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[Creovex]

Rhalgaln, on 11 June 2015 - 04:19 AM, said:

Excellent !

I have all IS Packs too. Is there some Reward for having ALL IS & Clan Packs or are again only clanneres privileged?

Is there a way to show more than two Tiltels/Badges ?

When Resistance 3 drops.... sure

[reign]

Edited by reign, 11 June 2015 - 07:14 AM.

[Poptimus Rhyme Wallace]

shameless money grab, anyone surprised?

no?

*slow clap*

[The Great Unwashed]

People who use the term Shameless Money Grab probably do not have any. Blame the world...

[PeeWrinkle]

I think many of you are missing the point. PGI doesn't have to give anything away for free, ever! They don't have to have rewards of any kind. But they do, some are after thoughts that come about by players suggestions, some are them just trying to draw up interest in events, and others are probably to help their sales. Bottom line is it doesn't matter why the choose to give a reward or what the reward is. They are giving away free stuff, and they do it all the time. I can't think of other games that do this.

Yes some rewards costs money and others cost time. But most likely you are playing anyway and racking up free stuff when they have an event. And for this reward you most likely bought the packages already. Not for the reward, but because you wanted the mechs! This is just a little bonus, I think, to say thank you to those who bought the packages. I don't think it is to encourage others to by the packages. It could be, but lets face it you are not buying them for a small bonus reward, you are buying them because you want them!

Bottom line is PGI bends over backwards for this community and it seems like a majority of people only complain! Just stop already. If you don't want the package don't by the package. If you bought them and think the reward is crap, don't use the badges in protest.

I am not saying there are not issues with the game or things that can't be done better, but I am saying PGI puts a lot of effort into making this game great. They also work really hard to try and meet the players needs, which isn't easy considering it is impossible to make everyone in this (any) community happy.

So accept the bonus or don't, but for the love of all that is holy don't continue to cry about it!

[Danielio97]

Dak Darklighter, on 11 June 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

But when I buy 480 apples and get an extra orange, I might be somewhat upset about the guy next to me that bought 160 apples and got an extra banana. EDIT: It's more like he got 10 bananas.

Of course I'm not referring to myself, I don't have all 3 Waves - which is the worst possible position. I bought Wave 2 and Wave 3, $240. I get absolutely nothing extra at all. People who bought Resistance 1+2 paid $160, got an extra 4 mechs for having both - 8 if they bought in early. How do you explain that?

It should be:
$480: Wave 1+2+3 = Invasion MadDog + 2 variants as well as another new popular clan mech Invasion variant + 2 variants
$360: Wave 1+2 = Invasion MadDog + 2 variants
$360: Wave 1+3 = Same as above
$240: Wave 2+3 = Another new popular clan mech Invasion variant + 2 variants or some other bonus

Wave 2+3 should get at least something instead of nothing for the money they've thrown in especially when you compare it to the IS packages. They way it is now is just nonsensical and frankly a grievous oversight

I understand that you as an owner of Wave 2&3 feel kinda betrayed for getting nothing extra. Now I'm going to sound like a bit of an a**hole, but those who bought complete Wave 1 paid 240$ and got 24 variants. You also paid 240$, but you had a chance to apply for early reward variants in W3, meaning if you bought W3 in that time limit, you get 28 variants. See? (I'm sorry if it really sounds as if I were an a**hole). Of course, those who paid 360$ for W1&2 got MDD, which is an entirely new chassis, so it's not like bonus R1 variants. I would say those who bought W1&3 are more unfortunate. (I'm really sorry...)

Ok, now you would probably argue that Resistance owners get 32 variants for only 160$. 4 of those variants are the 'mechs we already had three of, so we could at least Elite them in those 2 months, and they are not that much of a game changer. I also need to point out the reason why clan 'mechs cost more, since this also means a lot with this large number of 'mechs. Clan 'mechs come in fully upgraded, even your stock loadouts are already quite decent. While those who bought R1&2 have to buy 19 upgrades to DHS, if you want to have a decent build. That's 28 500 000 C-Bills. And I'm only talking about DHS, I'm not even going to calculate how much Endo and Ferro cost for each 'mech. Oh and those engines...

So while it may seem like PGI is a bit unfair to clan pack owners, I think they actually balanced it out quite well. I don't think that when the R3 comes out (I guess they will make it a trilogy too) we will be getting any huge extra content, I guess they would at max offer another early reward R3 variants and give us a title and badge too (also because they wouldn't want to enrage clanners even more).

So let's say that would be W123: 480$= 55 variants that can be used right from the start with minimal C-Bill grinding to change some things
R123: 240$= 48 variants (if R3 would have early reward variants, if not it would be 44) +endless grinding of C-Bills (I would say at least 50 mil if you want to upgrade to DHS and Endo)

This is how I see it. I had to grind C-Bills a month before Panther and Enforcer came out (and still didn't have enough for engines), so I know how much time it consumes, and it's not really fun to play when you don't focus on having fun, but on earning C-Bills. I bought both R1 and 2 just because I love this game. When I first found this game, I had no idea what Battletech was, but MWO really fascinated me. And here I am, 14 months later, happy with how I spend my 200$ (R1&2, Urbie standard and some MC).

Edited by Danielio97, 11 June 2015 - 05:45 AM.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Freebies YAY !
Thx PGI.

[SgtMagor]

wee, more goodies

[l RiDiS l]

Dear PGI.. im not pretending for rewards cuz dont owns packages for qualify, but my good friend (kalstrams) owns all of them and he will be upset cuz of those ridicilous rewards.. and i dont want to see him sad, cuz he is a good nice guy... well.. he actually one insane mtfkr.. but he deserved nice rewards like others who keeps buying clans top tiers while you keep jokeing over clans.
So i ask you to give to my friend (and others) some nice rewards (battemechs would be great i think)

BECAUSE FRIENDSHIP IS GAWD DAMN MAGIC !

Edited by LaLROO, 11 June 2015 - 07:05 AM.

[Jetfire]

Wing 0, on 10 June 2015 - 02:49 PM, said:

twitter. what a joke. wtf did they even bother having a forums in the first place then. its like how they fked up on that match maker change way back and it pist so many ppl off that they had to get in touch with everyone HERE and they had undue their change because of it.

If you do not care enough to create a twitter account then how much do you really care?

[Euphoric1RW]

So if I spend around 400 bucks on three clan packages that got or will be nerfed, I will get a tag that will increase my loyalty bonus by 5%. That sounds like a great deal.

[Appogee]

Danielio97, on 11 June 2015 - 02:24 AM, said:

I just don't understand some people. You know what are you buying, you buy it and then you automatically expect to get something extra? When you go to the grocery store and buy four apples you expect to get a banana for free? Ok, let's say there is a high probability of getting something extra, but you don't get a banana, but an orange. And you don't like oranges. But you still get something extra. Would you whine about that extra orange? I don't think so. So stop whining about getting something for free after your purchase, when you purchased with no guarantee of getting something extra in the start!

Sorry, but that's a dumb analogy.

I bought $480 of mere pixels. Yes, I knew what I was buying. I made that purchase choice and I was happy with it. But now, the pixel vendor has come along and said "Hey here's a reward, a small badge you won't use, and 4 medallions which offer a trivial amount of grind reduction on Loyalty Points. Congratulations!"

Underwhelming.

A better analogy would be when I bought my car. If the dealer had offered me a free sticker for the back window, and some free air for the tires, I'd have felt like I do about this 'reward' from PGI. But actually, they gave me something more in keeping with the size of the purchase ... $400 of accessories of my choosing, which I used for a nice keychain, some logo clothing and a console-integrated rechargeable torch, which I found actually useful and valuable)

The dealer didn't need to give me those bonuses, but when they did, I felt good about it because they made sure it was something I wanted and found valuable ... not something so trivial as to be almost insulting in return for $480 of purchases.

Oh, and now I RECOMMEND that dealer to friends....

Edited by Appogee, 11 June 2015 - 07:31 AM.

[Creovex]

PeeWrinkle, on 11 June 2015 - 05:08 AM, said:

I think many of you are missing the point. PGI doesn't have to give anything away for free, ever! They don't have to have rewards of any kind. But they do, some are after thoughts that come about by players suggestions, some are them just trying to draw up interest in events, and others are probably to help their sales. Bottom line is it doesn't matter why the choose to give a reward or what the reward is. They are giving away free stuff, and they do it all the time. I can't think of other games that do this.

Yes some rewards costs money and others cost time. But most likely you are playing anyway and racking up free stuff when they have an event. And for this reward you most likely bought the packages already. Not for the reward, but because you wanted the mechs! This is just a little bonus, I think, to say thank you to those who bought the packages. I don't think it is to encourage others to by the packages. It could be, but lets face it you are not buying them for a small bonus reward, you are buying them because you want them!

Bottom line is PGI bends over backwards for this community and it seems like a majority of people only complain! Just stop already. If you don't want the package don't by the package. If you bought them and think the reward is crap, don't use the badges in protest.

I am not saying there are not issues with the game or things that can't be done better, but I am saying PGI puts a lot of effort into making this game great. They also work really hard to try and meet the players needs, which isn't easy considering it is impossible to make everyone in this (any) community happy.

So accept the bonus or don't, but for the love of all that is holy don't continue to cry about it!

Spot on! Number 1 reason why I have no problem with Russ avoiding the forums nowadays, it's gotten worse to the point that everytime I get something free, 100+ people post complaints like spoiled kids.... just sad.

[Euphoric1RW]

PeeWrinkle, on 11 June 2015 - 05:08 AM, said:

I think many of you are missing the point. PGI doesn't have to give anything away for free, ever! They don't have to have rewards of any kind. But they do, some are after thoughts that come about by players suggestions, some are them just trying to draw up interest in events, and others are probably to help their sales. Bottom line is it doesn't matter why the choose to give a reward or what the reward is. They are giving away free stuff, and they do it all the time. I can't think of other games that do this.

Yes some rewards costs money and others cost time. But most likely you are playing anyway and racking up free stuff when they have an event. And for this reward you most likely bought the packages already. Not for the reward, but because you wanted the mechs! This is just a little bonus, I think, to say thank you to those who bought the packages. I don't think it is to encourage others to by the packages. It could be, but lets face it you are not buying them for a small bonus reward, you are buying them because you want them!

Bottom line is PGI bends over backwards for this community and it seems like a majority of people only complain! Just stop already. If you don't want the package don't by the package. If you bought them and think the reward is crap, don't use the badges in protest.

I am not saying there are not issues with the game or things that can't be done better, but I am saying PGI puts a lot of effort into making this game great. They also work really hard to try and meet the players needs, which isn't easy considering it is impossible to make everyone in this (any) community happy.

So accept the bonus or don't, but for the love of all that is holy don't continue to cry about it!

Do you think people would still be playing this game if PGI was not proactive in keeping it's fanbase by giving away free stuff? People that pay boo-koo bucks on a free game can cry if they want too. That is why the game still exist, because we are paying them. You think they are doing this for free?

[Creovex]

Appogee, on 11 June 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

The dealer didn't need to give me those bonuses, but when they did, I felt good about it because they made sure it was something I wanted and found valuable ... not something so trivial as to be almost insulting in return for $480 of purchases.

Stop right there. Read the underlined statement, that is the point. Right there ^^^

I paid and got something I wanted (the mech packs). The fact they threw in the free oil changes is a perk that I may or may not use. But regardless, my purchase was BASED off the car (mechs in this instance), not the free oil changes. Don't want the free stuff, don't use it, but stop bitching everytime you get something...

Edited by Creovex, 11 June 2015 - 07:32 AM.

[Summon3r]

just lol

[Appogee]

Creovex, on 11 June 2015 - 07:30 AM, said:

stop bitching everytime you get something...

1. This is the first time I've bitched about a free something from PGI.

2. When they gave me something I wanted (free Mechs and modules) I posted and tweeted my appreciation.

3. Stop trying to gag other customers' feedback. PGI deserve to know that their customers do and don't appreciate. You are entitled to express your opinion on the 'reward'. You're not entitled to gag other customers.

Edited by Appogee, 11 June 2015 - 08:14 AM.

[Dakkss]

Appogee, on 11 June 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

The dealer didn't need to give me those bonuses, but when they did, I felt good about it because they made sure it was something I wanted and found valuable ... not something so trivial as to be almost insulting in return for $480 of purchases.

Oh, and now I RECOMMEND that dealer to friends....

Creovex, on 11 June 2015 - 07:30 AM, said:

Stop right there. Read the underlined statement, that is the point. Right there ^^^

No. The point is, while they may not technically, legally, etc, need to give extra stuff away, they need to give stuff away to keep their customers/community content. Why? Because they've done so with previous packages/combos of lower value and given away great stuff like a whole new Battlemech chassis or 4 extra variants or camos or whatever. Now there's a disgruntled and unhappy community yet again.
Giving away $50 worth of in-game content for $160 (Resistance) and then giving away a meaningless, worthless badges/titles/medallions nobody cares about for $480 (Trilogy) is utterly preposterous and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the gross discrepancy and unfairness. Then you've got people who bought Wave 2+3 but not 1 for $240 and don't even get the miniscule Trilogy reward.

Edited by Dak Darklighter, 11 June 2015 - 08:20 AM.

[Appogee]

Creovex, on 11 June 2015 - 07:30 AM, said:

Stop right there. Read the underlined statement, that is the point. Right there ^^^

No, that's not the point.

The point is, if you're going to give your customers a reward or incentive - which is great - then give them something they actually want and also which is somewhat in proportion to their investment in your product.

Several customers are expressing in this thread that they don't value this 'reward'. With this feedback, PGI can potentially make better marketing decisions in future.

Your sermonising about how others customers should value the things that you apparently do achieves nothing and potentially does PGI a disservice by denying them customer feedback.

Personally I find it fascinating that you list your prior purchases in your forum location badge as if they mean something. But given your Pokemech Collector Pack mentality, it's no wonder you find another badge an appealing reward. Bully for you, goes to show there's always one customer who will value a giftwrapped ****.

Edited by Appogee, 11 June 2015 - 08:26 AM.

[The Great Unwashed]

How about a free Summoner with 360 degree torso twist, endo steel structure, a LT energy hardpoint and removable JJ? Never to be released for the plebs?

That would be nice...