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[utontihso]

What is PGI going to do about players calling all members of a unit that had someone banned "cheaters". I am VERY tired of this treatment. I don't cheat ever...... I understand one player might or might not of cheated, and I understand at least 3 were banned ( by IP ) because he logged onto their accounts for a very short play during the Tukayyid event.

This does not represent our unit nor myself and its getting pathetic we all have to be accused of this crap daily. I have no problems with addressing cheating players, but I also know I am tired of being publically attacked. Since this was posted for all to see and is openly talked about on public media platforms by PGI so this goes WAY beyond PGI and moved it into the PUBLIC domain.

Please stop this in game harassment as well as the open public bashing. I have paid good money to support this game, I have NEVER cheated and never will. I do not deserve to have a select few of the "competitive" players feel they have an open season to do defamation of character, slander etc.

Utontihso

66AH

[Jman5]

We need to insist PGI to creates a "/mute player" command so that we can create a list of players we don't ever want to hear from.

[Davers]

Sorry your unit is full of cheaters.

[Mystere]

Just ignore those pea-brained creatures. They're not worth your attention.

I was going to say "Report them!", but I don't expect any sanctions unless they are reported dozens of times.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sorry to say, but deal with it. Would be nice to have a Magic Mute Stick, but guess what? Video Games are rife with immature trolls and idiots who only feel good about themselves when belittling others. And it appears, most times, that the more competitive one is, the bigger the douchery that often occurs. GGClose and all.

That's the environment of video games. Don't see how it's a Devs or Publishers job to clean up what is an issue with an entire culture. Man up, ignore it, and eventually idiots get tired of trying to bait you.

[Theodore42]

Unfortunately people are going to do that. I'm sure you wish you could ignore them, but then everyone in the "audience" of the public accusation might just assume you probably are.

But if I see you, or anyone, in a match being accused of cheating, I got your back

[Monkey Lover]

Only takes 1 person with wall hack to tell the whole team the location.

[AnimosityMonk]

As my grandmother use to say, "Birds of a feather, flock together". People of like minds tend to gather in groups because that is somewhere they feel comfortable. Somewhere they can be their true selves without being peer pressured into conforming with the rest of whatever society they have chosen to belong to. Conversely people outside your group only know you by the actions your most visible members. So if a member of your group is known as a cheater or as being a d-bag in game well that is what people will think of you as well for belong to that persons group.

If you belong to a group that maybe has 1-2 cheaters but an entire roster of "GGclose" d-bags then you are kind bringing the hostile comments on yourself. If you do not like being treated negatively then reconsider your choice to joining said group.

[Triordinant]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 June 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

Video Games are rife with immature trolls and idiots who only feel good about themselves when belittling others. And it appears, most times, that the more competitive one is, the bigger the douchery that often occurs. GGClose and all.

Having played video games for a quarter of a century, I can confirm this. They've been that way even during the LAN gaming center days, before games went online.

[Jman5]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 June 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

Sorry to say, but deal with it. Would be nice to have a Magic Mute Stick, but guess what? Video Games are rife with immature trolls and idiots who only feel good about themselves when belittling others. And it appears, most times, that the more competitive one is, the bigger the douchery that often occurs. GGClose and all.

That's the environment of video games. Don't see how it's a Devs or Publishers job to clean up what is an issue with an entire culture. Man up, ignore it, and eventually idiots get tired of trying to bait you.

magic mute stick?
I've never seen an online game without a player mute feature except this one. It's an industry standard for good reasons that you have mentioned. There are trolls and idiots out there that are best ignored.

It's shocking that PGI never implemented it and we're forced to either mute the entire game, or put up with jerks.

[Spleenslitta]

Jman5, on 07 June 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

We need to insist PGI to creates a "/mute player" command so that we can create a list of players we don't ever want to hear from.

I'm with you on this one. There are some players who's comments i don't want to read or hear when i play.
Some say i need to grow a thicker skin....but when i hear several players gang up on someone that sounds 10 years old on VOIP that's enough.

I do not record my matches and they did not use the chat to harrass this young boy. So i could not take screenshots to report them.
They made fun of his genitals and who knows what else. It's been over a year since this happend...i do not remember any names anymore.

All i could do was tell him to shut the sound off and i destroyed the mech of the worst offender.
I hunted that offender down like the swine he was.

[Bishop Steiner]

Jman5, on 07 June 2015 - 10:58 AM, said:

magic mute stick?
I've never seen an online game without a player mute feature except this one. It's an industry standard for good reasons that you have mentioned. There are trolls and idiots out there that are best ignored.

It's shocking that PGI never implemented it and we're forced to either mute the entire game, or put up with jerks.

hence the ironic name. Does not change the point of the post.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Monkey Lover, on 07 June 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

Only takes 1 person with wall hack to tell the whole team the location.

"What if they like... brought Banshees... or something..."

To OP,

Joking aside, your command staff had three accounts banned. Almost hslf your leadership had hackers. You want my opinion? Take what's left and form a new unit. If Karp, Morgan, Noober, or any other ranking member in QQ got banned for cheating I would distance myself from QQ in heart beat.

My first unit in BF2 had the entire leadership banned for hacks. We won various 8v8 and 16v16 ladder matches. Once the leadership was banned, the DVS tag we wore was tainted. We couldn't wear it without the stigma and hackusations. So the remaining players went to another guild and the stigma and hackusations ceased.

The accusers remember the tag. Not the players. Just my advice from someone that's been in this position before.

[Water Bear]

Well, if this were the real world and your team was a professional sports team, there would actually be nothing stopping anyone from calling your team...whatever they liked.

And outside of the game's chat, or this web forum, there's nothing PGI can do to stop people on the internet at large from calling your whole team cheaters.

I guess you're just going to have to a. learn to live with it, b. change your team, or c. your team can change it's name or somehow try to convince the world it's under new management. I admit that options b and c are essentially silly tricks that mean nothing, but that's how it tends to be done in the world based on my observation.

This, kids, is why it's nice to not be a public figure.

Edited by Water Bear, 07 June 2015 - 11:11 AM.

[Stelar 7]

On the one hand harassment is bad. However I see this like the "not all cops are bad" thing. Sure you didn't cheat. Did you group with the cheaters? Did you benefit from the cheating? Did you know they were cheating and remain silent?

If the answer to any of those is yes then you are part of the problem. You enable cheating by tolerating it. Make a new group be better people.

[AnimosityMonk]

Theodore42, on 07 June 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

"GGclose d-bags" are a totally different thing than cheaters.

Also, making the assumption that the individual is guilty because the group is guilty because a different individual did something wrong is where tyranny comes from.

Wow your grandmother must have been a {Godwin's Law}. ( NAZl)

You seemed to have missed the entire point of my post. The phrase" birds of a feather......" I explained in my original thread. I can not make it any clearer to you without tons of drawings done in crayon.

FYI I just explained the meaning of that phrase to my nine year old and she got it in under a minute. Maybe if you have young children you could have one of them explain it you. AND they may have crayons as well!

Here is the definition of tyranny:


: cruel and unfair treatment by people with power over others
: a government in which all power belongs to one person : the rule or authority of a tyrant

My grandmother was Irish so have all the fun you want with that.

[Mystere]

Animus41, on 07 June 2015 - 10:52 AM, said:

As my grandmother use to say, "Birds of a feather, flock together". People of like minds tend to gather in groups because that is somewhere they feel comfortable. Somewhere they can be their true selves without being peer pressured into conforming with the rest of whatever society they have chosen to belong to. Conversely people outside your group only know you by the actions your most visible members. So if a member of your group is known as a cheater or as being a d-bag in game well that is what people will think of you as well for belong to that persons group.

If you belong to a group that maybe has 1-2 cheaters but an entire roster of "GGclose" d-bags then you are kind bringing the hostile comments on yourself. If you do not like being treated negatively then reconsider your choice to joining said group.

Don't go there or I'll rant about the sins of a very arrogant and bloodthirsty country.

[Theodore42]

Animus41, on 07 June 2015 - 11:18 AM, said:

You seemed to have missed the entire point of my post. The phrase" birds of a feather......" I explained in my original thread. I can not make it any clearer to you without tons of drawings done in crayon.

FYI I just explained the meaning of that phrase to my nine year old and she got it in under a minute. Maybe if you have young children you could have one of them explain it you. AND they may have crayons as well!

Here is the definition of tyranny:


: cruel and unfair treatment by people with power over others
: a government in which all power belongs to one person : the rule or authority of a tyrant

My grandmother was Irish so have all the fun you want with that.

Read Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. I did in highschool. That definition of tyranny has nothing to do with how it happens or what it looks like to the people living it.

[utontihso]

Actually we require people to be respectful of other players, to the point we have often stopped winning a match to allow a loosing team to get their respective points in events. So Animus41 that is a valid comment many times, it however doesn't apply to the members of the 66AH in general.

People judging people by the actions of others are short changing themselves IMHO. I have seen homeless poor people be generous, and ubber rich be ass hats full of selfish greed and uncaring.

People in general need to be more respectful.

The issue at hand however is PGI moved this into a PUBLIC domain and is accountable to remove / deal with this issue. They are the ones that started this ..... they now need to step in and stop this, this needs to be handled professionally as a business. This should not be treated like someone's little kingdom to do anything without any expectation of blow back.

Since this goes 100 % into the public domain it now is no longer just a PGI issue its public with all the potential for blow back.

The PUBLIC harassment needs to stop PERIOD.

Utontihso

66AH

[AnimosityMonk]

Mystere, on 07 June 2015 - 11:21 AM, said:

Don't go there or I'll rant about the sins of a very arrogant and bloodthirsty country.

Rant away my friend.

I have always enjoyed American history.