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[Ted Wayz]

I shudder to think how good the CB and Executioner will be. Looking at the most recent releases from PGI (Zeus 5S, Grasshopper 5P, Enforcer 4P, Cataphract 0XP, Griffin 2N, Direwolf W, Warhawk C, etc.) the chances are these mechs will be very good out of the box.

Do you share the same optimism? Or do things like MASC make you worry?

[Impyrium]

Either way I think it'll be interesting to have a new challenger on the battlefield that puts up a decent fight that's there to stay. Too many times are new 'mechs released and then rarely seen again... so bring it on I say. That scale on the CB sure will be interesting.

[bad arcade kitty]

ebj is going to be top tier, exe is going to be trash
it seems

[occusoj]

Some mechs will range from very powerful to borderline OP.
Then, a bit past CBill release and before the next mechpack becomes available, theyll get nerfed down.

Business as usual.

But Id suspect the CB to become the new masterrace and the Exes to be highly situationally OP/UP.

[Wintersdark]

bad arcade kitty, on 11 June 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

ebj is going to be top tier, exe is going to be trash
it seems

Trash? Dunno about trash. Something like LPL+6ERML+26DHS, with Banshee style form, jump jets, 72kph out of the box, 95kph MASC. It's basically a laser vomit Timberwolf loadout with more cooling, higher burst speed, comparable agility. And without crippling laser nerfs.

Not as flexible as many Clan mechs (it'll have to be laser vomit to be really effective, as it lacks tonnage for ballistics) but it'll have the speed and agility to get up close, and the form factor to tank damage well.

It may not be awesome, but I really don't think it's going to be trash.

[Mcgral18]

Grisbane, on 11 June 2015 - 03:45 PM, said:

well that would make them the exact opposite of MWo's predecessor in MW4 mercs.. the Executioner had a foul, but well earned nickname for a reason... not because it wasn't good.. more because the most used mech.. period. There was a reason for that.

That reason being it completely ignored TT construction, which MWO's Glad follows to a T.

Wintersdark, on 11 June 2015 - 03:55 PM, said:

Trash? Dunno about trash. Something like LPL+6ERML+26DHS, with Banshee style form, jump jets, 72kph out of the box, 95kph MASC. It's basically a laser vomit Timberwolf loadout with more cooling, higher burst speed, comparable agility. And without crippling laser nerfs.

Not as flexible as many Clan mechs (it'll have to be laser vomit to be really effective, as it lacks tonnage for ballistics) but it'll have the speed and agility to get up close, and the form factor to tank damage well.

It may not be awesome, but I really don't think it's going to be trash.

You'll have a hard time doing something like that.

You have 1 free crit slot and 3 free tons with that loadout. It will also run hot.


You'd be better off with a Ballistic and ~20 DHS without the LPL, or going dual LPL to get the tonnage while limiting heat to damage. Unless you want a size 4 TC...I guess you could go that route, but not much gain.

Maybe I'm wrong, but use a Whale to test that heat. (required hardpoints+tonnage+crit slots)

[MechaBattler]

I remember when the Clans first released. People would say the Warhawk was better than the Direwhale. So I would wait to see how things play out.

[Pariah Devalis]

Mcgral18, on 11 June 2015 - 04:38 PM, said:

That reason being it completely ignored TT construction, which MWO's Glad follows to a T.



You'll have a hard time doing something like that.

You have 1 free crit slot and 3 free tons with that loadout. It will also run hot.


You'd be better off with a Ballistic and ~20 DHS without the LPL, or going dual LPL to get the tonnage while limiting heat to damage. Unless you want a size 4 TC...I guess you could go that route, but not much gain.

Maybe I'm wrong, but use a Whale to test that heat. (required hardpoints+tonnage+crit slots)

Can actually fit 1 LPLas and 6 MPlas with 24 DHS just fine, actually. That XL400 gobbles up a lot of the external dubs. The Wubshee from hell. :3

[Mcgral18]

Pariah Devalis, on 11 June 2015 - 04:49 PM, said:

Can actually fit 1 LPLas and 6 MPlas with 24 DHS just fine, actually. That XL400 gobbles up a lot of the external dubs. The Wubshee from hell. :3

It's only a 380XL; only 5 slots in the CT.

26 is the max you can get, with 3 tons remaining.

25 is what the Timby uses for the 2 LPL 3 ERML, which runs reasonably hot.

Edited by Mcgral18, 11 June 2015 - 04:57 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Mcgral18, on 11 June 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

It's only a 380XL; only 5 slots in the CT.

380? Whoops! Still, all the same, it still manages to fit that loadout. Ran the sucker through megameklab just to double check, but it works out.

Spoiler

Gladiator (Executioner)
Clan TW
95 tons
BV: 2,817
Cost: 35,070,426 C-bills

Movement: 4/6(8)/4
Engine: 380 XL
Heat Sinks: 24 [48]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 145
Armor: 268/293 (Ferro-Fibrous)
Internal Armor
--------------------------------------
Center Torso 30 55
Center Torso (rear) 5
Right Torso 20 36
Right Torso (rear) 4
Left Torso 20 36
Left Torso (rear) 4
Right Arm 16 28
Left Arm 16 28
Right Leg 20 32
Left Leg 20 32

Weapon Loc Heat
----------------------------------------
Medium Pulse Laser RA 4
Medium Pulse Laser RA 4
Medium Pulse Laser RA 4
Medium Pulse Laser LA 4
Medium Pulse Laser LA 4
Medium Pulse Laser LA 4
Large Pulse Laser RT 10

Equipment Loc
----------------------------------
Standard None
MASC LT


Carrying Capacity:
One battle armor squad


Or, if you remove a hand actuator, just go with 8 MPlas, 25 DHS, and call it a day.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 11 June 2015 - 05:03 PM.