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#21 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:51 AM

View PostSaltBeef, on 18 June 2015 - 08:45 AM, said:

Ct hitbox getting worked over next Patch. Saw a official posting in another thread with blue print and everything.

I think Russ tweeted it's getting an adjustment today at 3pm.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:24 AM

Erm, i think it should be called.......The Executioner!

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:31 AM

L2MASC, all that needs to be said here...

#24 RustyBolts

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:32 AM

Revis, I don't like gauss, so you kiss off about the dual gauss assumption. ONCE again, an assault having less space than a Heavy, to me is an issue, I don't care if I knew about it months ago or today. I still think its an issue. If yall don't like my opinions, Move along,NO ONE makes you read my threads.

Sig I am far from being a child. Besides, you are the one making the insults like a child.
I guess if my opinion does no match the standard, I guess I cannot voice it. You don't like my opinion, DONT Read my threads. Move along, No one forces you to click on the thread button. There is even an ignore feature. Try it.

Edited by RustyBolts, 18 June 2015 - 09:39 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:47 AM

View PostRyokens leap, on 18 June 2015 - 08:49 AM, said:

Hopefully the Exc with get some good weapon/ chassis quirks like the Gar.

The thing is, I'm not sure it needs any.

I realize my assault mech is probably my lowest Elo, mainly due to lack of play in assault mechs (other than some stalking) since closed beta, but I'm tearing up in the thing. Solid 2:1 KDR, and matches with 250k+ cbills and 1500+ exp are pretty common for the non-I variant.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:51 AM

View PostRustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Revis, I don't like gauss, so you kiss off about the dual gauss assumption. ONCE again, an assault having less space than a Heavy, to me is an issue, I don't care if I knew about it months ago or today. I still think its an issue. If yall don't like my opinions, Move along,NO ONE makes you read my threads.

Sig I am far from being a child. Besides, you are the one making the insults like a child.
I guess if my opinion does no match the standard, I guess I cannot voice it. You don't like my opinion, DONT Read my threads. Move along, No one forces you to click on the thread button. There is even an ignore feature. Try it.

All fine and dandy. At least blame the right people. FASA designed the loadout of the Executioner, not PGI. It's loadouts and the pros and cons of such have been common knowledge since before it was ever announced for MWO. Don't like it? Fine. Bad Mech? Probably. PGIs fault? Nope.

Unless you want them to go all MW4 and just use the name and shape of mechs, then slap whatever loadout you want on them.

As for opinions? Voice yours all ya like. And expect people to voice their own ones back.

You want to be on a public forum, and holler from your soapbox, you need to man up, and get some rhinoskin.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 18 June 2015 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:54 AM

View PostRustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Revis, I don't like gauss, so you kiss off about the dual gauss assumption. ONCE again, an assault having less space than a Heavy, to me is an issue, I don't care if I knew about it months ago or today. I still think its an issue. If yall don't like my opinions, Move along,NO ONE makes you read my threads.

Sig I am far from being a child. Besides, you are the one making the insults like a child.
I guess if my opinion does no match the standard, I guess I cannot voice it. You don't like my opinion, DONT Read my threads. Move along, No one forces you to click on the thread button. There is even an ignore feature. Try it.

What people are taking issue with, myself included, is that you're acting like you bought it thinking it'd be glorious high pods pace assault, only to realize it's not. You knew when you bought wave3 it'd have less pod space than a timberwolf. Complaining about it now like you were misled is pretty lame.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:13 AM

Bishop, I can accept that. However, it is PGI who locks equipment in place.

@ Medic, That was not my intent. However it does not change the fact that I am disappointed in it. I did not think it would be a great mech. But it is really just a rebadged Gargoyle. I think that is what is even more disappointing.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:31 AM

Don't play a specialist mech if you don't like the playstyle to which it is suited.

I LOVE the Executioner. MASC is the most fun thing in the game since old school spider max jump jets. I was actually about to make a post saying that the MASC acceleration bonuses may be a bit too good, but the other aspects of the mech balance it out pretty well. The other day I did something no other assault can do. I made a wrong move, ran smack into 3 enemy mechs (big guys, but only ID'd one of them as a Dire), and I escaped without losing much armor due to use of MASC decel/accel bonuses. It was amazing. I almost didn't believe I had survived, and then I looked at my armor, that didn't even have any red on it anywhere, all while I'm seeing laser, UAC, and gauss fire fly right past my screen feet in front of me after quickly backpedaling behind a nearby building.

Any other assault would have been shredded. This one allows for reaction maneuvers, instead of planning out in advance where you are going and being forced to accept whatever comes your way.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:33 AM

View PostOne Medic Army, on 17 June 2015 - 08:41 PM, said:

FFS people, you knew this when they announced the mech. There were discussions and statistics about it's tonnage, speed, free space for weapons, possible variants, etc...

You have zero freaking excuse complaining about the stuff that was revealed or disseminated prior to Wave3 pre-orders being opened.

Complaining about torso-twist, hard point height/location, JJs still being crap, or MASC implementation are all valid. Enough with the whining about tonnage like you weren't told months ago.

Sincerely a Wave3 Executioner package owner.

I own the Wave III Executioner package and I approve this rebuke. :)

#31 Yosharian

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:45 AM

So let me get this straight, so far I got this:

STOP COMPLAINING, MASC IS AWESOME!

but nobody was complaining about MASC...

SHUT UP

Edited by Yosharian, 18 June 2015 - 10:46 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:45 AM

View PostRustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

Bishop, I can accept that. However, it is PGI who locks equipment in place.

@ Medic, That was not my intent. However it does not change the fact that I am disappointed in it. I did not think it would be a great mech. But it is really just a rebadged Gargoyle. I think that is what is even more disappointing.

Personally I love the accel/decel on the MASC. It lets you side-poke like no other assault can, and you can recover from bad positioning. If the jets get-de-nerfed I think it'll be even better than my stalkers and crab.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 11:28 AM

View PostRustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

Bishop, I can accept that. However, it is PGI who locks equipment in place.

@ Medic, That was not my intent. However it does not change the fact that I am disappointed in it. I did not think it would be a great mech. But it is really just a rebadged Gargoyle. I think that is what is even more disappointing.

Yet anyone who was paying any attention KNEW it was going to be a bigger, Gargoyle that jumped. Because that's what the Executioner always has been. And whatever you think about the locked equipment, that has been a known for over a year and a half, and dealt with in actual play, for a year now.

Basically, what you appear to be doing, is akin to someone who sees a model/brand of car that has had horrible reviews/reputation since it's inception, sees a new reskinned model with a snazzy soundsystem added, buys it anyhow, despite knowing the brands reputation and that this was more of the same, then being shocked that it is indeed as bad as ever.

Basically my friend, you knew how Clan Mechs work, you knew or should have known going in what the Exe was, and you went in anyhow, and now are shocked that it is indeed exactly what everyone else told you it was going to be.

Doesn't seem the most stable of platforms to operate from. :/

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 11:33 AM

Not shocked, just disappointed.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 11:43 AM

When I see these threads, I just see buyers remorse. I knew what was coming with the Sexecutioner, just like the Garbro. I knew they weren't going to be Timbers or Whales. We had all the information from the get-go what we were getting.

If you're playing a Garbro like an 80 ton Timber, you're doing it wrong. Same goes for the Sexecutioner.

I'm actually very pleased with the .EXE.

It's the Ebon Jag I'm disappointed in. I much prefer my Hellbringer.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 12:04 PM

View PostRustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Revis, I don't like gauss, so you kiss off about the dual gauss assumption. ONCE again, an assault having less space than a Heavy, to me is an issue, I don't care if I knew about it months ago or today. I still think its an issue. If yall don't like my opinions, Move along,NO ONE makes you read my threads.

Sig I am far from being a child. Besides, you are the one making the insults like a child.
I guess if my opinion does no match the standard, I guess I cannot voice it. You don't like my opinion, DONT Read my threads. Move along, No one forces you to click on the thread button. There is even an ignore feature. Try it.


Kiss off?

You are so butt hurt over other people opinions yet ANY TIME anyone says anything contrary to your you whine and spit vitriol and kick and scream like a little kid. You crack me up and remind me of my friends daughter...


She wants to whine and moan and ***** but when someone comes back to her with answers or legitimate reasons WHY things are the way they are she cries and calls her Friends who will listen to her whine and *****. So go find someone who cares and will listen no one here does and no one here agrees with you which you obviously cannot handle.


So basically i said you are akin to a 11 year old girl. What ya gonna do about it punk? I can have an opinion just like you can, i can talk trash and tell everyone they suck and there mechs suck, builds suck, PGI sucks, life sucks. All you have done is start threads today whining about how terribad you are in the new mechs you thought would be god mode. Sorry you dont know how to use Gauss, sorry you dont know how to MASC, sorry you dont know how to MWO.

Funny how you act in the face of diversity though...

By the way...if you dont LIKE MY RESPONSES then dont read them. That's a two way street bud and no where here on these forums does it say RUSTY BOLTS IS IMMUNE TO DISCUSSION.

Why post topics here in a DISCUSSION forum if you dont wanna DISCUSS THEM? You just want to whine and everyone to hold your hand and make it better for you? To tell you its ok, you are a special Snowflake and deserve to be treated as such....GTFO dude.

Buyers remorse....it sucks huh?

Edited by DarthRevis, 18 June 2015 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 12:19 PM

View PostDarthRevis, on 18 June 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:

Bazinga!


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 12:35 PM

I love my Executioner.exe.

I don't play assaults that much, tried dire, warhawk, crab, atlas, but after spending some quality time with the EXE I love it.

The mobility and playstyle that comes with it is just what I do, and I feel I've learned to become a better pilot because of it.

Yeah the CT could use a tweak but I was okay with it and I'm not sure I care about the torso twist but hey I'm not going to complain if they buff it a little.

Edited by the hedgehog, 18 June 2015 - 12:36 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 12:35 PM

View PostRustyBolts, on 17 June 2015 - 09:11 PM, said:

I can have an opinion all I want, just like you can. My Opinion is that it is a disappointment. If we never state what we think is wrong with a MECH, it will never get addressed. And I am not going to sit here and act like I am happy with it when I am not. Is it a bad mech? NO, but In MY Opinion, an Assault Mech with less free space than a heavy is just one of the issues.


Ok, it's just that it sounds a little silly to announce your opionion so heatedly when all this information was available for the last several months at which point it was fairly discernible that the executioner would have some pretty obvious shortcomings unless, of course, all your hopes rested on MASC being insane.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 12:51 PM

View PostMoldur, on 18 June 2015 - 12:35 PM, said:


Ok, it's just that it sounds a little silly to announce your opionion so heatedly when all this information was available for the last several months at which point it was fairly discernible that the executioner would have some pretty obvious shortcomings unless, of course, all your hopes rested on MASC being insane.

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