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[Escef]

skorpionet, on 23 June 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

How you can write "W/L is NOT a factor to the matchmaker" and after "If you were expected to lose and you lost, your Elo goes down slightly. If you were expected to win and lost, your Elo takes a nasty hit. If you were expected to win and did o, your Elo goes up slightly."??

Honesty. It's called with honesty. Elo computations actually have nothing to do with your W/L ratio. If you lose 10 games you were expected to lose (small hits to your Elo score), and win 8 you were expected to lose (big jumps for your Elo score) than your Elo score has most likely overall gone up, yet your W/L over those 18 games is 8/10.

Calm your jimmies and actually look at how these systems work, man. You remind me of the kid I encountered in a solo queue match that asked over VOIP, "Can you hear me?" And I sarcastically quipped, "No." A couple seconds later he comes on again and says, "Ok, can you hear me now?" I had to explain to the kid that if I actually couldn't hear him than I couldn't have answered his question.

Edited by Escef, 23 June 2015 - 07:37 AM.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Escef, on 23 June 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

Honesty. It's called with honesty. Elo computations actually have nothing to do with your W/L ratio. If you lose 10 games you were expected to lose (small hits to your Elo score), and win 8 you were expected to lose (big jumps for your Elo score) than your Elo score has most likely overall gone up, yet your W/L over those 18 games is 8/10.

Calm your jimmies and actually look at how these systems work, man. You remind me of the kid I encountered in a solo queue match that asked over VOIP, "Can you hear me?" And I sarcastically quipped, "No." A couple seconds later he comes on again and says, "Ok, can you hear me now?" I had to explain to the kid that if I actually couldn't hear him than I couldn't have answered his question.

A thinking man would have replied about how his audio sounds. Your response was that of a smart a** and served no one. From your response he could have easily thought his mic gain was still down and he need to boost it.

Sometimes thinking everyone but you is a moron leads to the obvious conclusion your the moron looking for cheap thrills to boost you sorry ego gamer boy.

Your not a special snowflake by any means.

Imperius, on 23 June 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:

I just want to see this scrubs stats...

A donation of MC or similar and it can be arranged.

[skorpionet]

Ok, what I mean when I write "W/L ratio" is ELO.

[Escef]

skorpionet, on 23 June 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

Ok, what I mean when I write "W/L ratio" is ELO.

Ok, so, you want to chew me out for answering the questions you've asked, and not the one's you meant to ask? I'm not a mind reader, son.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Escef, on 23 June 2015 - 08:04 AM, said:

Ok, so, you want to chew me out for answering the questions you've asked, and not the one's you meant to ask? I'm not a mind reader, son.

Check out his photo then read this again... LOL

[Lightfoot]

The new players never form up, they go wandering off alone and die for nothing. The key to winning is to get your wandering teammates to form up into a single group. Then you are at least on an even field of play and if your opponents do not form up then they are easily routed.

[Abaddonis]

Boris The Spider, on 21 June 2015 - 01:16 PM, said:

Its not about your build Mud, its about your attitude. You harp on for half that vid about premades cheating, the video clearly shows no such thing. You see premades because :



This is something that you should have picked up how to do in the first month of playing this game.
There are only 2-3 basic plays for each map, which one you are using in a PUG depends on one thing, if Alpha groups to Bravo, or Bravo groups to Alpha.



Nope, its just you can't do this. Focus fire is so basic man, first mech encounters a target, locks it, second mech sees the locked target moves to get a firing line, if the first mech is taking damage he pulls back to protect himself while the second, third and fourth mech converge for the kill. Its text book play, it requires no VOIP, no cheats, nobody even needs to call the target, its obvious who it is just from the information provided by the HUD. How can you not have learnt to do this by now is beyond me.

Boris - I will argue that his build was absolutely crucial to his defeat in that video. He was in a support build, 3 LRM10's and 2 AC5's. That build has to stay with the pack, he doesn't have enough firepower to fend off a brawler. The Battlemaster closed range and ate him up.

Had Mudhutwarrior stayed with his team, his contribution could have been better and he could have lasted longer on the field. He doomed himself and ultimately his team by separating and getting picked off solo. The lone Catapult at the beginning was also doomed.

So now you have two players who are not with the team and get picked off. Their team is now down 2 mechs with nothing to show for it. This is how you lose. Throw in bad builds and this is how you lose 15 in a row. Too many bad players.

[Escef]

Abaddonis, on 23 June 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

Boris - I will argue that his build was absolutely crucial to his defeat in that video. He was in a support build, 3 LRM10's and 2 AC5's. That build has to stay with the pack, he doesn't have enough firepower to fend off a brawler. The Battlemaster closed range and ate him up.

Had Mudhutwarrior stayed with his team, his contribution could have been better and he could have lasted longer on the field. He doomed himself and ultimately his team by separating and getting picked off solo. The lone Catapult at the beginning was also doomed.

So now you have two players who are not with the team and get picked off. Their team is now down 2 mechs with nothing to show for it. This is how you lose. Throw in bad builds and this is how you lose 15 in a row. Too many bad players.

After reviewing it today, I noticed something curious. His team had 3 Catapults that between the 3 of them their short range weapons consisted of a single MPL. The one that died early was 4xLRM10, TAG, AMS, and MPL. There was also the one with 2xALRM15 and TAG. And the third one (which I briefly targeted, but didn't have eyes-on) was 6xLRM5. Three Catapults and a Highlander all rigged as long range support, and NONE of them stayed near people that could give them close in support. Hell, Mud wandered away from the Dire Wolf when I destroyed him, and he actually managed to open my CT armor. If he had stayed with the Dire the two of them together probably would have taken me out, or at least gotten me to back off. (BTW, did you SEE the build on that Dire? 2xALRM15, AMS, 4xERLL, and 2xTAG... I mean, double TAG? On a Dire? With quad ERLL? Holy hell, pull at least one of those for another heat sink, you need it.)

[Imperius]

Mudhutwarrior, on 23 June 2015 - 07:51 AM, said:

A thinking man would have replied about how his audio sounds. Your response was that of a smart a** and served no one. From your response he could have easily thought his mic gain was still down and he need to boost it.

Sometimes thinking everyone but you is a moron leads to the obvious conclusion your the moron looking for cheap thrills to boost you sorry ego gamer boy.

Your not a special snowflake by any means.



A donation of MC or similar and it can be arranged.

That's gave me the answer I needed to know. If it was good you would have just shown it which tells me your W/L is negative and your the cause of many of your teams losses.

Do you game on a laptop too?

[Boris The Spider]

Abaddnis, I think your misreading me. I'm not saying his build or tactics did not contribute to his defeat, that much is obvious, I'm pointing out that the main reason the video is being referred to here is to critique his attitude. The guy goes down because of his own failures, then starts railing about sync-droppers and cheats.

Edited by Boris The Spider, 23 June 2015 - 10:45 AM.

[Abaddonis]

Boris - Agreed 100%. I'm hoping he can understand that his losses are on his shoulders and to stop thinking the only way he can lose is if the other team cheats. His build was fine, if he had stayed with the pack. But not good for how he played that match. He needs to understand this and not blame the enemy for punishing him for his own mistakes.

[Boris The Spider]

Abaddonis, on 23 June 2015 - 10:53 AM, said:

Boris - Agreed 100%. I'm hoping he can understand that his losses are on his shoulders and to stop thinking the only way he can lose is if the other team cheats. His build was fine, if he had stayed with the pack. But not good for how he played that match. He needs to understand this and not blame the enemy for punishing him for his own mistakes.

I think the problem is that he expected that when the queue changed from having a mix of pre-mades and solo's on each team, to being entirely (is almost all cases) solo, that all the players who work well with the team and play of each others strengths were pre-mades sync-dropping and that they were just going to disappear. Everyone would start playing the way he played, and public matches would just turn into a chaotic morass where he would be more comfortable. When the pre-mades were removed, but the team work remained the only possibility he could comprehend was that a huge conspiracy of players are out to cheat him, that he is the only one who can see the truth and anybody who disagrees is arguing in poor faith, are a liar and a cheat themselves.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Imperius, on 23 June 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

That's gave me the answer I needed to know. If it was good you would have just shown it which tells me your W/L is negative and your the cause of many of your teams losses.

Do you game on a laptop too?

Are you a betting man? Put something up in you assumptions.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Boris The Spider, on 23 June 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

Abaddnis, I think your misreading me. I'm not saying his build or tactics did not contribute to his defeat, that much is obvious, I'm pointing out that the main reason the video is being referred to here is to critique his attitude. The guy goes down because of his own failures, then starts railing about sync-droppers and cheats.

I have my days and in the several times i dropped with wonder boy that was the one where I was totally off my game and probably half in the bag. Other times the headaches from nearly getting killed in Iraq make me a little slow to see the whole picture. I just had four days of that and could not hit the broadside of a barn and my timing was terrible. Thing is I don't claim to be anything special or even good but when I am feeling well I can hold my own.

He won't post the ones where I scored better than him or those where I survived and he didn't . You all like to make assumptions based on one page of evidence. Don't become prosecutors lest you be looked on as fools.

I do like how you take and steer the point of the thread over to my skills though. That shows true weakness. If you don't understand how that is then there is no hope for you.

[Boris The Spider]

Mudhutwarrior, on 23 June 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

I do like how you take and steer the point of the thread over to my skills though. That shows true weakness. If you don't understand how that is then there is no hope for you.

Clearly selective reading Muddy, I keep steering it towards your bad attitude. I have my off days also, I get beaten by better pilots, I fail at my positioning, don't move at the right time, miss key shots, or just don't do enough to secure a victory for the team. But what I don't do I start slandering the pilots on the other team.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Boris The Spider, on 23 June 2015 - 11:44 AM, said:

Clearly selective reading Muddy, I keep steering it towards your bad attitude. I have my off days also, I get beaten by better pilots, I fail at my positioning, don't move at the right time, miss key shots, or just don't do enough to secure a victory for the team. But what I don't do I start slandering the pilots on the other team.

Ah, but in cased you missed it last year I had this discussion on a thread about chat. In my view chat is a warfighting tool. If I can get you angry and emotional you will not fight as well. Same goes for the forums. I keep the herd all upset and slinging insults but the few who actually read between the lines will catch whatever idea I am putting across. Morons stick to the basics because they never read between the lines. I always go after clans/fellowship types because they are the easiest to excite. Maybe study some psy ops manuals and you will begin to pick up on the message. Now its become a caricature on the forums and even though what you post makes perfect sense many will glaze over it to see what crazy thing mud has to say. I get a lot of compliments in chat for the things i post here. That's my audience. Not the usual forum herd.
I know I am being effective when you guys pop into chat to say something to me and then you all try to kill me first. Happens all the time. So your not fighting as a team but instead like rabid dogs. Opens up the chance to be effective with a pug team.

Sorry you don't understand. Hope this helps.

[Aramoro999]

Kieferchirurg, on 21 June 2015 - 07:25 AM, said:

I lost 15 games in a row. solo queue. 80% of the matches i do 400+ dmg, 0-2 kills, several components... why is the matchmaking doing this to me?!

Nothing to do here dude, sometimes your just out of luck. Try taking a break from the game.

[Gruinhardt]

Mudhutwarrior, on 23 June 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

Ah, but in cased you missed it last year I had this discussion on a thread about chat. In my view chat is a warfighting tool. If I can get you angry and emotional you will not fight as well. Same goes for the forums. I keep the herd all upset and slinging insults but the few who actually read between the lines will catch whatever idea I am putting across. Morons stick to the basics because they never read between the lines. I always go after clans/fellowship types because they are the easiest to excite. Maybe study some psy ops manuals and you will begin to pick up on the message. Now its become a caricature on the forums and even though what you post makes perfect sense many will glaze over it to see what crazy thing mud has to say. I get a lot of compliments in chat for the things i post here. That's my audience. Not the usual forum herd.
I know I am being effective when you guys pop into chat to say something to me and then you all try to kill me first. Happens all the time. So your not fighting as a team but instead like rabid dogs. Opens up the chance to be effective with a pug team.

Sorry you don't understand. Hope this helps.

So now your accusations are war fighting tool. I would rather see new players forming their own opinion about the game. Instead of some idiot throwing accusations because he thinks it gives him an advantage.

Mr Bigglesworth, on 22 June 2015 - 11:38 AM, said:

Mudhut, your village called.

Edited by Gruinhardt, 23 June 2015 - 12:27 PM.

[Abaddonis]

Mudhutwarrior, on 23 June 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

I know I am being effective when you guys pop into chat to say something to me and then you all try to kill me first. Happens all the time. So your not fighting as a team but instead like rabid dogs. Opens up the chance to be effective with a pug team.

Sorry you don't understand. Hope this helps.

So what you're saying is your forum warrioring is causing the players on the enemy team to charge recklessly in mad dash to kill you first. Could this lead to the coordinated charges that continually break the backs of your teams?

We have finally solved the problem!!

Mudhut is his own worst enemy!! His psy ops warfare has backfired!! You have created the monster you despise. How do you counter it now?

[Mudhutwarrior]

But you miss that I do okay, my K/D is fine.

All this is for the noob, the guy who just drops in to the game and slaughter. I can play like this all day long. I am used to it.

Once again the herd has a one trick pony mind. It's not about me you idiots.

Edited by Mudhutwarrior, 23 June 2015 - 12:32 PM.