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[Cyborne Elemental]

Just out of curiosity..

What are we even doing here on these forums.

Russ has made it publicly known that neither he, nor any key senior member with PGI will be interacting with any of us here on the forums on any level what so ever concerning anything to do with gameplay or its mechanics.

Any concerns or ideas we have, we have to go elsewhere to convey our thoughts.

So all that is left here in the forums are forum moderators who are just here to police and make sure we're not trolling too hard amongst ourselves, or talking down about staff and making a stink.

They're not going to relay anything of importance back to the Lead staff, unless it becomes a big enough stink to matter to these Moderators.

All of the daily thoughts and ideas concerning the gameplay, mechs, balance, all of it, we may as well not even discuss here, because its going to go nowhere and be lost in the void which this forum has become.

I have to say, this is quite frustrating.

So all these little debates we have here, the good and bad, balance discussions, all of the emotional attachment and E-Penis swinging you guys do, means absolutely nothing.

So I have to ask, why are we here discussing, fighting and arguing amongst ourselves here at all.

Is it just out of boredom?
Or do any of you, including myself actually believe any success, influence, or satisfaction can be achieved from anything we do here from now on?

And this isn't just a question to the playerbase here, how do you moderators feel about this as well?

Flameshield activate! so flame on.

[DaZur]

While I know it's hard to believe... While they may not necessarily frequent the forums... I have in on good authority that some points of discussion do make it to their venerable ears.

[Impyrium]

Problem is, for every reasonable discussion, there's also the person that does not grasp that his own opinions are just opinions and will proceed to attempt to sink their teeth into the nearest developer on the forum. It's not a very nice environment for a developer, and regardless of whether it's their own fault or not, I can't blame them for wanting to stay somewhere with a much smaller and less hostile community.

Twitter's also a lot less work for them I imagine. Easier for a developer that's constantly busy and on the go. It's not that hard to follow OutreachHPG to keep up with the more interesting tweets.

[Mcgral18]

Well, I made a request for a Heat Dissipation quirk on the sub 250 engine robots to make up for those PoorDubs...so, if the next quirk pass (or within the next 6 months) has that, it might indicate that they do listen to forum feedback every now and then.


I've found the forums to be a far less civil place than they were last year. Fewer discussions take place, and more disruptive users troll about.

Boredom's probably the best reason.

[Cupid and Psyche _]

Eh- this is just a good social forum for BattleTech fans. It can be nice to vent our opinions on the game as well, but I use it mostly as a place to share my passion for BattleTech with others.

We're a pretty small group. Are there any other MechWarrior forums? I know there used to be some a couple years back, but they are mostly defunct now.

[Alistair Winter]

It's kind of like... a sports forum. Like we're all fans of the New York Knicks and we're discussing their player trades, their manager, their games. Not because it's going to have an impact on the games, but just as something to pass the time. Like discussing if Michael Jordan would beat Spiderman in a game of basketball.

When people talk about how the players have had an impact, because someone once started a thread with a suggestion that made it into the game, it's like watching those lottery commercials where they show you someone else that won the lottery. When you see someone else who won, it makes it feel more likely that you can win, and it makes you forget about the actual numbers involved. If you want to have an impact these days, you have to use Twitter. And even then, I wonder how long before Russ gets tired of Twitter, because people are being rude to him every day.

I just do it for fun. And sometime I'll recognise someone in-game from the forum, or they'll recognise me and we'll write "o7" or something. Unless they're someone I dislike from the forum, in which case I'll make a point of killing them. And if they kill me first, I'll rage-quit.

[Soy]

Mister D, on 21 June 2015 - 05:53 PM, said:

So I have to ask, why are we here discussing, fighting and arguing amongst ourselves here at all.

[Alistair Winter]

Soy, on 21 June 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:

Wtf!? That song wasn't written by Tupac?

My whole life, I've been living a lie.

[Soy]

Alistair, you click music I link often enough and you'll learn something... eventually.

General rule of thumb when it comes to hip hop, is the more something sounds really badass, the more likely it is a sample. I would know, I'm a sampling fiend. Furthermore, when Changes was made by TuPac in mid 90s, that time period was sorta the final hurrah of sampling in the mainstream. These days modern mainstream 'rap' contains little to no samples cuz clearing the licensing for them has become too expensive for most commercial artists unless it's something extremely obscure and thus not costly. This is one of the main reasons modern mainstream rap sucks hard.

I really like this documentary I would recommend it to anyone interested at all in modern music production, sampling, DJing, or music copyright laws. Always go to the root!

Edited by Soy, 21 June 2015 - 06:25 PM.

[Moldur]

We like to hear ourselves talk.

Mostly I'm here to kill time while waiting in queue.

[Chuanhao]

For a moment, before the release of Resistance 2, I had an impression that lending a voice might help with the decision on what new mechs I the community would like. While there have been some responses from devs to some posts (usually announcement based) the lack of any response is rather disencouraging (not too mention how discussions very quickly shift to personal insults, off-topic discussions, irrelevant points that have already been answered). I have decided to shift back to observer mode, to use the forums more as a bulletin board, especially those that have references to Russ's Tweets. Those are very useful, along with event and sales announcements (Got me another 12 mech bays).

[GeistHrafn]

Much of the ideas that we post here DO make it back to the staff at PGI. I'm sure many of them read them, even if they are reluctant to chime in. Honestly, I'd be reluctant too, if every word I said were cut up, trolled, and held as promise (despite the lack of the word).

[Templar Dane]

I argue certain points in the vain hope that maybe some of these ideas floating around gain traction. But a large percentage of the forumites seem to be happy with the status quo, that or just blindly defending anything PGI does.

[FupDup]

For PGI's intents and purposes, this forum is an echo-chamber which exists to deflect feedback/complaints away from PGI's email inboxes. This is the purpose of all forums for all games across the Internets™.


From the viewpoint of a Forumwarrior, we make chronic shitposts because we have an "itch" for it. We've picked up a habit, or rather an addiction, in which we feel a sense of temporary relief when we use this board as an outlet. We feel as though our shitass opinions are worth more than the pixels that they are comprised of, and we like to cry on each others' shoulders and form internet support groups about what we all wish this game could be like in Dreamlandia™. We're also, quite frankly, just batshit insane, and want to watch the world forums burn.

Edited by FupDup, 21 June 2015 - 06:43 PM.

[Soy]

^ pusheen best cat

[Novakaine]

Hahahah good thing I'm a brother.
Although some of my friends family wonder.

[bad arcade kitty]

>What are we even doing here on these forums.

>Russ has made it publicly known that neither he, nor any key senior member with PGI will be interacting with any of us here on the forums

so what? am i supposed to dream to interact with senior pgi members or what, lol

[Kiiyor]

Dingo Red, on 21 June 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

Problem is, for every reasonable discussion, there's also the person that does not grasp that his own opinions are just opinions and will proceed to attempt to sink their teeth into the nearest developer on the forum. It's not a very nice environment for a developer, and regardless of whether it's their own fault or not, I can't blame them for wanting to stay somewhere with a much smaller and less hostile community.

This.

I know if I had to deal with us, i'd stop dealing with us. It's impossible to make any type of MWO thread without some form of argument.

Dingo Red, on 21 June 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

Twitter's also a lot less work for them I imagine. Easier for a developer that's constantly busy and on the go. It's not that hard to follow OutreachHPG to keep up with the more interesting tweets.

Russ has stated in the past these exact reasons for relying on twitter.

[Fate 6]

What else are we supposed to do every time we're in a 5-20 minute queue? We certainly can't do anything in-game.

[Zordicron]

I post stuff because eventually, I mean sometimes it takes months and months, but eventually, other people will think about it and the gears grind and ideas and observations start to gain traction. And once that happens, then you start to see things being brought up more often, AND THEN, some one here will have a twitter account or other such standing with the devs etc, and it will get brought up there for a while, and maybe, eventually, something happens.

I used to play City of Heroes. On those boards, there were the "forum celebrities" that had the devs ears, and to a point, were seen as above and beyond the average poster.

I used to feed them. See, I didn't care HOW my desires got into the game, so long as they made it there. I certainly am not needy enough to want after some kind of popularity on a video game forum. I have a wife and kids and friends etc, I don;t need social support from people with fake names on a board.

That said, there are some really delightful personalities on this board. Probably because of the age range we see from the IP, and the inner NERD!!s we are to enjoy it. I also find myself not actually needing to feed and "celebrities" here stuff to get it brought to the forefront, for the most part the regulars here are pretty normal people and have half an iota of logic and things get hashed out fairly well. maybe not the first go around, but some things people have to digest a while and keep on the back of thie rmind to observe for themselves before consensus happens.

Overall, this is one of the nicest communities I have been part of. It is too bad Russ and Paul and crew don;t come visit with us. I mean, I dunno, if I ran a game, and it had a forum, and I went there and people trolled me, i would just delete their posts. You know, because I run the game. Some **** spews out a bunch of illogical hate BS? NOPE. And move on.

I mean he gets it on Twitter anyway, so there isn;t that much difference. I think some of us(like me) don;t go to twitter, because, much like the IP, we are in favor of old school and it just feels appropriate to hav a game forum for communication purposes. I mean, it exists for and because of the game. So, it feels illogical to go to a general social media "thing" to talk about it, IMO. But then, I grew up when there was no internet so the 20 somethings and teeny bops prolly disagree.