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[Gas Guzzler]

So the Executioner got 70 degrees of torso twist range, and I have to say... it is very noticeable.

Was it really "so good" that it needed that?

I mean every assault other than Dire Wolves (60), most Stalkers (60) and a couple Battlemasters (60) has a torso twist range higher than 70 degrees.

[Kiiyor]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 June 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

So the Executioner got 70 degrees of torso twist range, and I have to say... it is very noticeable.

Was it really "so good" that it needed that?

I mean every assault other than Dire Wolves (60), most Stalkers (60) and a couple Battlemasters (60) has a torso twist range higher than 70 degrees.

What does that increase to when mastered?

[Bishop Steiner]

With no lower arm actuators until August, this is particularly problematic on a moderate firepower Assault that is supposed to rely on mobility and agility.

[Gas Guzzler]

Kiiyor, on 16 June 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:

What does that increase to when mastered?

84 degrees

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 16 June 2015 - 04:33 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 June 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

With no lower arm actuators until August, this is particularly problematic on a moderate firepower Assault that is supposed to rely on mobility and agility.

While I agree with your point, you can get lower arm actuators on this thing now.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 June 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

While I agree with your point, you can get lower arm actuators on this thing now.

Really? Had seen several posts to the contrary. I don't have one, so can only go by what others post.

[1453 R]

Elbows or no, 70 degrees is utterly ludicrous on a 'Mech specifically built for significantly above-average agility for its size. 90 should have been an absolute minimum, and I honestly would have pushed for 100 given the Executioner's lack of overwhelming firepower. The Dire Whale's shortened arcs are a response to it carrying fifty-point-five tons of guns; the Executioner carries half of that and most of its pods don't come with elbows, to boot.

What the frog. The 70-degree arcs are dumb as hell and really bite into the 'Mech's goal. Was M.A.S.C. really that worrisome pre-release?

[Mystere]

I place all blame on the decades-long anti-Clan Crusade for the sorry state of the game.

[Lord0fHats]

Given the numerous limitations of the Executioner as a mech (and even with MASC) I don't think this super limited twist range is justified. I hope it get tweaked along with the ludicrous CT hitbox.

[SpiralFace]

I'm sure they will keep that in mind as far as a buff direction in the event that metrics show the thing needing the help.

I'm sure MASC was a giant x-factor that probably made them a bit gunshy straying too far away from the core stats. We'll have to see in the long term how well it pans out.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Doing it wrong then.

Its an assault, it should follow the same limitations of any other.
They were probably going off TT data and just following what was there.

Btw. lowers and hand.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9deba422fbf41e7

But honestly what did you expect from yet another assault setup for Ferro instead of Endo steel?
Every clan mech so far setup for Ferro only, has been the underdog from day 1.

Edited by Mister D, 16 June 2015 - 11:21 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Mister D, on 16 June 2015 - 05:55 PM, said:

Its an assault, it should follow the same limitations of any other.

Well the majority of assaults have 90 degree torso twist range so....

[Y E O N N E]

Battlemaster and Blackjack pilots everywhere shed not one single tear for the EXE and its plight.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 17 June 2015 - 07:33 AM.

[Mcgral18]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 June 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

Well the majority of assaults have 90 degree torso twist range so....

Banshee likes his 108


BlackJack 1X does not like his 96

[Elizander]

Urbie doesn't care.

[TwentyOne]

I think the executioner would be good if it had 10 more free tons with the exact same loadout it has. Like a +10 tons quirk.

[-Vompo-]

As a somewhat dedicated battlemaster pilot I can feel some sympathy towards the executioners limited torso twist. then again I cannot feel to bad for executioners cause I haven't yet tested these mechs myself.

[Widowmaker1981]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 June 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

Really? Had seen several posts to the contrary. I don't have one, so can only go by what others post.

Yeah you can have arm actuation.

Prime and A right arms have actuator options, the only left arm to have actuator options is the D which is the extra variant and the omnipod isnt available till later.

[Aresye]

Who the f*** cares about arm actuators anyway when your arm weapons are going to slam into the terrain every god dang time?!

[Alistair Winter]

Gas Guzzler, on 16 June 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

So the Executioner got 70 degrees of torso twist range, and I have to say... it is very noticeable.
Was it really "so good" that it needed that?
I mean every assault other than Dire Wolves (60), most Stalkers (60) and a couple Battlemasters (60) has a torso twist range higher than 70 degrees.

It's not that the Executioner has less torso twist than it needs to have. It's just that other assault mechs and heavy mechs have a lot more torso twist than they need.

The 100 ton King Crab has more torso twist than the 45 ton Blackjacks, for crying out loud. What's going on?