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[Abisha]

so why is their no additional Armour available? i got 4 ton left in my stalker.
love to add some more plating to the mech.

[Lugh]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

so why is their no additional Armour available? i got 4 ton left in my stalker.
love to add some more plating to the mech.

Then you've built it wrong somehow. There are only so many slots available per mech for all the things.

[Abisha]

Lugh, on 25 June 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

Then you've built it wrong somehow. There are only so many slots available per mech for all the things.

all slots are used up

[Scratx]

Battletech build rules establish maximum number of points per location based on mech tonnage. Don't blame PGI for following the rules, blame yourself for building your mech potentially sub-optimally.

PS: Nothing inherently wrong with going undertonned, but don't expect any benefits from it, either. And no, you can't have a faster mech either, we've gone over that way back in closed beta on the forums.

[Ronan]

Sounds like you have room/weight for a bigger engine maybe?

[Lugh]

Ronan, on 25 June 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

Sounds like you have room/weight for a bigger engine maybe?

And/or BIGGER GUNS!!

[Abisha]

Ronan, on 25 June 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

Sounds like you have room/weight for a bigger engine maybe?

already got max engine.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2987ede40ed1359

[Kristov Kerensky]

Dump the FF and add another heatsink, strip a little armor and you can add 2 more heatsinks.

[FupDup]

Ferro Fibrous on a Stalker...lol.

[Bulletsponge0]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

already got max engine.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2987ede40ed1359

lose the ferro and you'll have 1.5 tons free...thats another heat sink you can fit in there with the freed up slots

[Abisha]

FupDup, on 25 June 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

Ferro Fibrous on a Stalker...lol.

Bet you not know FF gives additional armor per armor point.....
so yea it's requested.

[FupDup]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

Bet you not know FF gives additional armor per armor point.....
so yea it's requested.

No, Ferro just weighs less than regular armor. The protection of 1 FF point is identical to 1 point of normal armor. You just get that same protection for less tonnage.

Ferro is downgrade to Endo-Steel because it saves less weight, you should only use it when you have a lot of critical slots and seriously need the weight boost.

Edited by FupDup, 25 June 2015 - 10:42 AM.

[Abisha]

FupDup, on 25 June 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

No, Ferro just weighs less than regular armor. The protection of 1 FF point is identical to 1 point of normal armor. You just get that same protection for less tonnage.

i certain i read FF gives 10% more armor per armor point.

[FupDup]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

i certain i read FF gives 10% more armor per armor point.

The Sarna description is terribly obfuscated. "More protection per ton" in Sarna terms means that for 1 ton of weight, you get more points...but your armor limit is the same, thus you just save weight.

Standard armor in MWO gives you 32 points for every 1 ton, while IS FF gives you about ~35-36 points for every 1 ton.

The number is also 12%, actually.

Edited by FupDup, 25 June 2015 - 10:45 AM.

[Abisha]

FupDup, on 25 June 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

The Sarna description is terribly obfuscated. "More protection per ton" in Sarna terms means that for 1 ton of weight, you get more points...but your armor limit is the same, thus you just save weight.

Standard armor in MWO gives you 32 points for every 1 ton, while IS FF gives you about ~35-36 points for every 1 ton.

The number is also 12%, actually.

hmm guess i drop FF instantly wasted space. ;0

[Kristov Kerensky]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

hmm guess i drop FF instantly wasted space. ;0

Good, now you can add another heatsink without any problem since you have 1.5 tons free. Strip half a ton of armor off your legs and you can add 2 more heatsinks total.

[Wintersdark]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

already got max engine.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2987ede40ed1359

Why do you have Ferro Fiberous armor? You don't need the tons, and are just wasting slots. Take it off, you have empty slots AND free tonnage.

[Deathlike]

Why do I even bother optimizing?

MISERY

If I could shave 1 ton somehow, I'd be able to get one more DHS (rather, I'd prefer removing the BAP, due to it being unimportant for this build).

Also, that is a horrible waste of a Misery if you're not planning to use the CT energy hardpoint (despite the low mountedness of it).

Edited by Deathlike, 25 June 2015 - 12:44 PM.

[Escef]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

hmm guess i drop FF instantly wasted space. ;0

Yeah, drop the ferro armor and cut the legs to 85 65 (brainfart) and you can get 2 more heat sinks. IMO, however, that build is better for the Battlemaster, you can get 3 more heat sinks and a 375XL.

Edited by Escef, 25 June 2015 - 01:40 PM.

[Revis Volek]

Abisha, on 25 June 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

i certain i read FF gives 10% more armor per armor point.

It does not, it weighs 10% less