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[DjPush]

Overide shut down to suicide.

As a glutton for punishment I decided to take out my AS7-K and work on some builds. Dropped in Tourmaline and had a decent group of PUGs. So I thought. Team showed good signs of movement, worked together, focused targets and we were up by a kill. As the score hit 6 to 5 a Timberwolf on our team decided to follow the 2 friendly Ravens and chase some random dorito 600 meters away.

Long story short the group they left behind put up the best fight they could. We ripped the armor off of the remaining enemy mechs and even killed one or two.

So now it's the Timberwolf with 2 ERLL and 4 ERML at 84% armor and 2 Ravens to finish the fight against 5 heavily damaged mechs. I've seen it done. However, that isn't what happened. The Timberwolf turns to face the rocks, hits the overide key and alpha strikes until he dies from over heating. The poor ravens gave it their all but we ended up losing the match.

You know who you are... Knock it off.

Edited by DjPush, 26 June 2015 - 12:43 PM.

[Red Legs Greaves]

I've seen this a lot lately, today I had a guy kill himself by overheating while shooting a wall turret. Not sure if it was stupidity or what.

[Alistair Winter]

An unnecessary suicide when there's still a chance of victory is dumb no matter how you do it. Some people give up too easy, but I prefer a quick suicide to the guys who power down or let the enemies chase them for 5 minutes before running out of bounds.

But pressing the override button to try to take an extra guy with you as you die, or at least earn some extra C-bills and XP from the extra damage in your last seconds of life? No problem.

[Midax]

I think that is reportable behavior isn't it? Intentonally killing yourself to stop the other team from gaining rewards for killing you.

[Deathlike]

There was this match where the guy discoed immediately when finding enemies, despite the fact he had no weapons (yes, it's a Mist Lynx!) and was going to die anyways (was like 11-10, with the opfor ahead).

Whatever... I guess people will do what they think is best, regardless if they even have a reasonable shot of winning matches.

Edited by Deathlike, 26 June 2015 - 11:49 AM.

[Scout Derek]

Midax, on 26 June 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

I think that is reportable behavior isn't it? Intentonally killing yourself to stop the other team from gaining rewards for killing you.

Not if you're in battle, which means like seeing the enemy and within 100 meters or so.

[Lugh]

Sometimes you hit override shutdown and then power up and start moving, and you hit it again, but it doesn't register and you hit it again and it doesn't toggle off again, then it sticks back to on and you go boom because of weird latency.

So sad.

[ThirtyOughtSix]

DjPush, on 26 June 2015 - 11:42 AM, said:

Overide shut down to suicide.

As a glutton for punishment I decided to take out my AS7-K and work on some builds. Dropped in Tourmaline and had a decent group of PUGs. So I thought. Team showed good signs of movement, worked together, focused targets and we were up by a kill. As the score hit 6 to 5 a Timberwolf on our team decided to follow the 2 friendly Ravens and chase some random dorito 600 meters away.

Long story short the group they left behind put up the best fight they could. We ripped the armor off of the remaining enemy mechs and even killed one or two.

So now it's the Timberwolf with 2 ERLL and 4 ERML at 84% armor and 2 Ravens to finish the fight against 5 heavily damaged mechs. I've seen it done. However, that isn't what happened. The Timberwolf turns to face the rocks, hits the overide key and alpha strikes until he dies from over heating. The poor ravens gave it their all butwe ended up losing the match.

You know who are... Knock it off.

With two Ravens running around shaving off armor at 800 meters, I can see why he suicided. Doesn't hide the fact that he's a jerk for giving up so easily though! Hear hear to knock it off!

[DarkMetalBlade]

DjPush, on 26 June 2015 - 11:42 AM, said:

So now it's the Timberwolf with 2 ERLL and 4 ERML at 84% armor and 2 Ravens to finish the fight against 5 heavily damaged mechs. I've seen it done. However, that isn't what happened. The Timberwolf turns to face the rocks, hits the overide key and alpha strikes until he dies from over heating. The poor ravens gave it their all butwe ended up losing the match.

Did you or anyone else, by any chance, tell your remaining teammates that their enemy was heavily damaged? That pilot must have a fear of the unknown, & if you haven't told him beforehand, he's not going to know if he has a chance or not.

So my advice, if you've managed to do a number on your enemy before biting the dust, friggin' speak up!

[Midax]

Scout Derek, on 26 June 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:

Not if you're in battle, which means like seeing the enemy and within 100 meters or so.

They weren't close. They just finished according to the OP and rather than go engage the enemy the TW killed himself.

[DaZur]

Regular run of the mill daily games? Dirty pool and completely uncalled for...

We're in the middle of a tournament? I'm okay if you're the last-man-standing against overwhelming odds to override punch-out and deprive the other team of what amounts to easy points.

When points count it's strategic deprivation... Otherwise it's just stupid KDR shielding.

[DjPush]

DarkMetalBlade, on 26 June 2015 - 11:56 AM, said:

Did you or anyone else, by any chance, tell your remaining teammates that their enemy was heavily damaged? That pilot must have a fear of the unknown, & if you haven't told him beforehand, he's not going to know if he has a chance or not.

So my advice, if you've managed to do a number on your enemy before biting the dust, friggin' speak up!

It shouldn't matter what condition the enemy is in. If he was the last guy. I might be a bit more understanding. However, 3 against 5? You should at least try.

[DarkMetalBlade]

DjPush, on 26 June 2015 - 12:37 PM, said:

It shouldn't matter what condition the enemy is in. If he was the last guy. I might be a bit more understanding. However, 3 against 5? You should at least try.

It actually does. Knowing that their enemy is in bad shape is likely going to get them to actually do something...

[CDLord HHGD]

Sometimes I overheat and can fight on, sometimes I overheat and look at a small laser and pop like a top....

[0rionsbane]

id rather have this than that spider running off ans shutting down for kdr shielding. but yes its prety much a stupid move, i do find the new override (can i still call it new) will take out the head ever once in a while making it instant death and that i dont feel is a bad decision on the pilots part as you dont want to shut down in a close fight thats why we have override.

[Koniks]

This thread lived up to expectations.

[Random Carnage]

Suicide by override is a design flaw. The Onus is on the Devs initially to realise this wouldn't be build into a mech in the first place, then on the pilots to grow some damn balls and not ***** out. You always fight to the very last. Period.

[bad arcade kitty]

Midax, on 26 June 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

I think that is reportable behavior isn't it? Intentonally killing yourself to stop the other team from gaining rewards for killing you.

no it's not reportable 'to stop the other team from gaining rewards for killing you', there is no rule that the other team should kill you or something

if this case is reportable it's because there was a chance to win which was ditched by that timberwolf, i.e. because he hurt his team, not enemy one

[bad arcade kitty]

0rionsbane, on 26 June 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

id rather have this than that spider running off ans shutting down for kdr shielding.

perfectly understandable thing to do

too bad russ didn't answer my question related to these team treasons and last mechs hiding because they cannot get hegira

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 26 June 2015 - 03:58 PM.

[TexAce]

There is nothing better than having 5 heavily damaged mechs on the enemy team. If you are experienced and pilot what I pilot that is. Then it's lunch time!

I would straight out ban such pilots like the TW. Someone like this doesn't belong onto the battlefield but into a petting zoo.