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[Richard Hazen]

Was in this game just and I was in a Hunchback J which is my lrm boat I'd run out of missiles and was sitting in a crater over 1k away from the gate randomly popping up to tag things when I could, anyway this clan mech was hitting me with lasers over 1k away, I know it was 1k away because when I'd targeted enemies who were at the gates, it said something around 1080 on average.

Anyway I'd taken about 4 shots from this guy within the span of about 5 minutes as I peeked over to spot and every time he hit me on the side torso and stripped armour and eventually took me out due to XL engine, now I was moving and twisting etc etc but even so there's no way he can do that much damage over that long of distance and without being focused on the specific component.

In the end the game finished and we obviously lost but this guys score was really really iffy to me. He's the top one, What do you think?

Edited by Deimos Alpha, 18 June 2015 - 10:41 AM.

[QueenBlade]

looks legit

[Khereg]

What exactly do you think is iffy? The kills/damage ratio? B/c there's another guy with 11 kills on 1900 dmg in bravo lance. Likewise, another guy w/ nearly 1800 dmg and only 1 kill.

I've had games where I've averaged a kill for every 150 dmg and others where I've had 1800 dmg and 0 kills. Getting the last shot is a matter of luck at times.

[Richard Hazen]

He didn't die once, He had 14 killing blows and he'd done the most damage as well and he was hitting me from a very far distance including killing me from over 1k away when you could only see the top of my body over a rock crater, he couldn't of even targeted me that far away.

Edited by Deimos Alpha, 18 June 2015 - 10:54 AM.

[Vxheous]

Looks legit to me for a 48-22 stomping. He probably lit you guys up with clan ER large lasers + advanced zoom + thermal vision.(functions in reverse on vitric, you stand out as black blobs at range on a blinding white screen). His ER large lasers will still hit for ~75% damage at 1k, so yeah his score makes sense

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 18 June 2015 - 10:57 AM.

[Dawnstealer]

Was that against the Clams? Yeah - poking against the Clams is a bad idea and this is usually the result. They poke hard.

Vxheous Kerensky, on 18 June 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

Looks legit to me for a 48-22 stomping. He probably lit you guys up with clan ER large lasers + advanced zoom + thermal vision.(functions in reverse on vitric, you stand out as black blobs at range on a blinding white screen). His ER large lasers will still hit for ~75% damage at 1k, so yeah his score makes sense

This.

[Khereg]

Deimos Alpha, on 18 June 2015 - 10:53 AM, said:

He didn't die once, He had 14 killing blows and he'd done the most damage as well and he was hitting me from a very far distance including killing me from over 1k away when you could only see the top of my body over a rock crater, he couldn't of even targeted me that far away.

He used a ERLL build, stayed in the back and never got shot, had an advanced zoom module and was picking off weak targets from a distance. Legit.

As for the total damage, 2k is good, but not a ton. Guys in my unit have pulled down over 4k in a CW match. I've personally pulled over 3k, which is fairly common.

Edited to add: CERLL's have a base range of 740m, which rises to 811m with a range module. At 1,000m they are still doing 77% of their base damage. Put 2 or 3 of those on a mech and they can still light you up at "over 1,000m".

Edited by Khereg, 18 June 2015 - 11:58 AM.

[Ace Selin]

If you're concerned report him via email adding what info you have, date time of match, this photo and anything else you feel is useful and let PGI take care of it. If he is botting hopefully he will be scrutinized and found out , if not nothing to worry about then.

Edited by Ace Selin, 18 June 2015 - 01:56 PM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Deimos Alpha, on 18 June 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

Was in this game just and I was in a Hunchback J which is my lrm boat I'd run out of missiles and was sitting in a crater over 1k away from the gate randomly popping up to tag things when I could, anyway this clan mech was hitting me with lasers over 1k away, I know it was 1k away because when I'd targeted enemies who were at the gates, it said something around 1080 on average.

Anyway I'd taken about 4 shots from this guy within the span of about 5 minutes as I peeked over to spot and every time he hit me on the side torso and stripped armour and eventually took me out due to XL engine, now I was moving and twisting etc etc but even so there's no way he can do that much damage over that long of distance and without being focused on the specific component.

In the end the game finished and we obviously lost but this guys score was really really iffy to me. He's the top one, What do you think?

nothing iffy about that at all

I could put up a screenshot of a similar game I had on counter attack in my adder... never died, did most damage, highest match score, 1 assist short of most assists....didn't have that many kills, but hey, its an adder...(and I actually did MORE damage than the guy in your screenshot)

[Zoid]

1k is not that far away for Clan ERLL. With just the range mod you're looking at 814 optimal range, so he's not suffering that much damage reduction, especially if he's packing a targeting computer too.

Defending on Boreal the 4 ERLL TBR is one of my favorites and I've pulled scores higher than this. I did die but only because I started with a KFX, didn't die once I pulled out the TBR.

[nehebkau]

sorry pal, this is not beyond the realm of possibility -- and any people who use aiming cheats have probably already realized that it is too easy to spot it with lasers so would have switched to PPC and ACs.

IMHO if they are using ERLlasers or LRMS they are probably legit.

[MaxFool]

Advanced zoom of course. He might have never gotten lock but he could still easily target specific spot with the aid of zoom module. Just as an example, in boreal map with 4ERLL Hellbringer I have done 3.6k damage without dying once. This map is a lot hotter, but 2.1k is nothing particularly miraculous, and never dying makes it actually more legit, not less, because you don't have to waste time getting back to battle in a new mech.

[Krivvan]

That looks more than just legit, that looks completely normal. Regular CW games that I didn't have to go searching for:





If you want an actual crazy game (that's legit too), then here:




That's just what happens when you put good to great players in a pool without any skill matchmaking. Playing CW is like playing PvE on the easiest difficulty, but it also gives you bad habits when you back up against people who actually twist, defend, aim, and shoot back.

Edited by Krivvan, 18 June 2015 - 06:11 PM.

[jeirhart]

Yup, very normal.

Edited by jeirhart, 18 June 2015 - 07:51 PM.

[Crockdaddy]

Deimos Alpha, on 18 June 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

Was in this game just and I was in a Hunchback J which is my lrm boat I'd run out of missiles and was sitting in a crater over 1k away from the gate randomly popping up to tag things when I could, anyway this clan mech was hitting me with lasers over 1k away, I know it was 1k away because when I'd targeted enemies who were at the gates, it said something around 1080 on average.

Anyway I'd taken about 4 shots from this guy within the span of about 5 minutes as I peeked over to spot and every time he hit me on the side torso and stripped armour and eventually took me out due to XL engine, now I was moving and twisting etc etc but even so there's no way he can do that much damage over that long of distance and without being focused on the specific component.

In the end the game finished and we obviously lost but this guys score was really really iffy to me. He's the top one, What do you think?

I've had scores like this several times in a stomp and I am not even close to the best player on my unit. Pretty normal ... above average but normal.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

My Raven 4X has 911m base range...so what are you talking about?

[Vellron2005]

Wow... really have to train and level-up my game... you guys have some sweet scores.. I have yet to break the 2K damage barrier on a CW game..

Feel like a little grasshopper now..

[DarthHias]

I only PUG, and i am above 2k more often than not, and have broken the 3k already with 11 kills I think. Most of the time that happens when IS pugs hug the gate area on Boreal.
In such a game i did 1425 dmg in my Adder Prime only using 2 Cerppcs.

So really nothing iffy there.
My Wubhawk gets 680m base range with TC and Module.

[Cyborx]

coburn once did 5500 damadge and more than 30 kills and there was nothing iffy about it.
the reason is simple:
1)both teams were horrible Cowards and not moving nor shooting at all.
2)overquirked / broken mechs: 4xdragon-1N with 2AC5s and 18 tons of ammo each.
4)dropped early in european morning -> americans sleep, europeans work ,others have 300+
ping.
3)only ejected cos of ammo shortage

EY cob, no blaming man - nice one!

....that simply happens.

Edited by Cyborx, 19 June 2015 - 01:19 AM.

[DarklightCA]

2k damage is insanely easy to get in CW, as is over 10 kills. Nothing iffy about that score.