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[Phoenix Branson]

After listening to Bryan talk about the Wolf Dragoons in the recent Community Warfare reveal, I was thinking how epic it would be if PGI launched a new project when they finally add this mercenary unit to the game. Would you buy this hypothetical project if PGI offered it? This would be a good way to introduce the more restricted 'Mechs in MWO.

Tier 1 ($15)
Flea (1 Special Variant + 2 Standard Variants + 3 Mechbays)
Hanging Wolf Dragoon Cockpit Medallion

Tier 2 ($30)
Flea, Hoplite (2 Special Variants + 4 Standard Variants + 6 Mechbays)
Hanging Wolf Dragoon Cockpit Medallion
Three exclusive paint colors

Tier 3 ($45)
Flea, Hoplite, Imp (3 Special Variants + 6 Standard Variants + 9 Mechbays)
Hanging Wolf Dragoon Cockpit Medallion
Three exclusive paint colors
30 days premium time

Tier 4 ($60)
Flea, Hoplite, Imp, Annihilator (4 Special Variants + 8 Standard Variants + 12 Mechbays)
Hanging Wolf Dragoon Cockpit Medallion
Three exclusive paint colors
90 days premium time
Exclusive Wolf Dragoon Pattern

Edited by Maverick01, 07 October 2013 - 08:35 PM.

[CrashieJ]

haha, NO. why? Easy.

the way it was stated in the Powerpoint (yes, that was a PP presentation) is that you basically grind everything to go to the Dragoons.

Bad Time... and very game breaking.

Relations would be a better course with trying to keep every faction happy while moving from one state to another:

IE: A Davion Veteran with a reputation of 150/100 decides to move, choosing Steiner may drop the reputation to 145/100 while choosing Liao will drop it to 80/100. Creating a situation of factions that will have positive and negative effects based on your actions. Wolf's Dragoons should be a reward not based on the blind-grind but on balanced and smart gameplay.

We know that WD is the "Endgame" based on PGI, but it should be "revocable" (**** enough people off and drop your status).
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I hate to say it but in an Online game, there should not be an end-game, THERE SHOULDN'T.

"OK, I made it to the Wolf's Dragoons... what now?"

[CtrlAltWheee]

You had me at $15 per tier

Question from a guy who doesn't know lore: If Wolf's Dragoons is Clan-related, would it already be time to use clan mechs? Given a choice I'd go with firemoth and stomcrow and maybe a dire wolf.

If we're enjoying 6 months or a year of purely house on house community warfare, then one more IS mech package would be fun.

[DarkDevilDancer]

Given that my favourite merc unit is the dragoons I would, I'd like to see the imp and annihilator in game.

[Karl Streiger]

As mpossible as this list:

Tier1: 40$
+Shogun
Tier2 80$
+Imp
Tier3 120$
+Annihilator
Tier4 160$
+Marauder II
Tier5 320$
+TimberWolf, Archer and DireWolf
Tier 6 640$
+Streak Railguns that hit the head of a Mech up to 3000m

Edited by Karl Streiger, 08 October 2013 - 05:47 AM.

[Syrkres]

hehe just reading the variants of the Annihilator:

• ANH-1E - This field-expedient refit was used by the Dragoons after the Battle of Misery. All of the autocannons were removed and replaced with four PPCs and two additional Medium Lasers. The ANH-1E also carried forty-one heat sinks, enough to fire the main weapons continually. BV (2.0) = 1,625^[4]

Not with the ghost heat....

[CDLord HHGD]

Two Assaults (am I correct)?

Maybe a Mercenary Pack. L/M/H/A from 4 of the more illustrious merc units, one each: WD, assault; KH, heavy, GDL (or whatever), medium; ELH, light. That might be more viable and more enticing to more people.....

[Lord Ikka]

You do realize that both the Imp and Annihilator are 100 ton Mechs? They're not going to do a package with two Assaults. And the Flea is already announced, so there would be less of a buzz about that one than just another announced Light. If they were to do something like this, which they won't for various reasons, I see the Mechs being more along the lines of these:

Tier 1: Falcon
(FLC-4P special variant, FLC-4N, FLC-4Nb-PP, or FLC-4Nb-PP2 standard variants)

Tier 2: Hoplite plus Tier 1
(HOP-4D special variant, HOP-4C and HOP-4B standard variants)

Tier 3: Lancelot plus Tier 1 & 2
(LNC25-01 special variant, LNC25-01X and LNC25-03 standard variants)

Tier 4: Imp plus Tier 1, 2, & 3
(IMP-3E special variant, IMP-1B and IMP-1C standard variants)

I chose the Lancelot because it's kind of a forgotten Mech in a lot of ways, and the WD's didn't bring a specific Heavy Mech to the IS. The Heavy bracket has a lot of options though, from the Executioner, Black Knight, Grasshopper...

Edited by Lord Ikka, 08 October 2013 - 07:27 AM.

[WVAnonymous]

Karl Streiger, on 08 October 2013 - 05:46 AM, said:

As mpossible as this list:

Tier1: 40$
+Shogun
Tier2 80$
+Imp
Tier3 120$
+Annihilator
Tier4 160$
+Marauder II
Tier5 320$
+TimberWolf, Archer and DireWolf
Tier 6 640$
+Streak Railguns that hit the head of a Mech up to 3000m

If the railguns come with targeting assistance, I'm in.

[Alpha087]

I wouldn't purchase this, not because of a lack of faith in PGI or the game. I just don't want any of those 'mechs or Wolf Dragoon stuff...

Now sell me a house Davion or house Steiner project with some 'official' paint schemes and mechs. I'd be all over that.

[Stingray Productions]

actually sounds kinda cool.

[ShadowbaneX]

Nope. The only packs I'm interested in would be another Phoenix pack (Phoenix Hawk, Rifleman, Warhammer & Marauder) or a Royal package which would give us a bunch of the SLDF "Royal" variants for the mechs already released.

Also: to hell with the Hoplite.

[Gaan Cathal]

Aren't Wolf's Dragoons basically a Mary Sue Have-Your-Cake-And-Eat-It-Too deal that people really only want to be 'part of' in order to get access to shiney Clan toys on the Inner Sphere side?

[Lyoto Machida]

gavilatius, on 07 October 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

"OK, I made it to the Wolf's Dragoons... what now?"

You "migrate" to the Clans, of course.

[Karl Streiger]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 October 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

"OK, I made it to the Wolf's Dragoons... what now?"

You got to get nuked... and what remains of your troops make a head less charge toward Terra and die in Orbit of Mars - and that what made it to the planet - will fight a battle that would made it to legends - but in the end there will be no one left to tell your story - because the Word wont

[Zerberus]

Maverick01, on 07 October 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

After listening to Bryan talk about the Wolf Dragoons in the recent Community Warfare reveal, I was thinking how epic it would be if PGI launched a new project when they finally add this mercenary unit to the game.....

With all due respect, I don`t think you listened closely enough to what was said. He pretty much said that you need to grind all 6 IS houses to max loyalty to gain access to the Wolf`s Dragoons.

Now, we do not know whether or not this is set in stone, that is true. But thBryan`S tone and teh reasoning preceding the naming of teh unit seemed pretty definite....

[Lord Ikka]

Zerberus, on 08 October 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

With all due respect, I don`t think you listened closely enough to what was said. He pretty much said that you need to grind all 6 IS houses to max loyalty to gain access to the Wolf`s Dragoons.

Five IS Houses- FRR doesn't really count, WD never worked for them or any of the other "minor" factions. But basically it seems like it will be just a LP grind for a cool camo/paint scheme.

[Xeno Phalcon]

I'll never buy into any pack that uses the same formula as the project phoenix packs, i'd much prefer the formula used in the founders program.

[LauLiao]

Syrkres, on 08 October 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

hehe just reading the variants of the Annihilator:

• ANH-1E - This field-expedient refit was used by the Dragoons after the Battle of Misery. All of the autocannons were removed and replaced with four PPCs and two additional Medium Lasers. The ANH-1E also carried forty-one heat sinks, enough to fire the main weapons continually. BV (2.0) = 1,625^[4]

Not with the ghost heat....

It does say "continuously" not "simultaneously". Obviously requires chain-fire.

[General Taskeen]

LauLiao, on 09 October 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

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It does say "continuously" not "simultaneously". Obviously requires chain-fire.

40 SHS keeps a 4 PPC Mech 100% cool every turn, standing still. Heat neutrality was a thing for a lot of stock builds in TT, but not MWO, nope that is an evil thing!