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[Greenjulius]

I feel bad for you guys. Now we have a mech that competes with the Mist Lynx for terrible arm hitboxes.

[Damien Tokala]

stjobe, on 07 July 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Au contraire, my misguided friend, au contraire.

It is a poor warrior that blames his weapons.

Commando is not a weapon.

It's more considered... Gauss ammo

[Alistair Winter]

Haha! At first I was like: hmm, this doesn't look too bad. Maybe they got the Commando right.

Then I read the OP and looked a bit closer and I was like:

[GroovYChickeN]

I was actually going to log in any play for the first time in months with this patch. Now, seeing what they have done to my lovely commandos, I don't think I could take it.

I'm so sad right now.

[STEF_]

There is was nothing like rolling a commando.

I'm sad.

nuff said.

+07/07/2015+

[DONTOR]

Com- 3A (second from right) looks bad ass though, I really like that look. No model for SRM2s is a bit lame, but the CT missile looks decent to me.

[Nightshade24]

Summon3r, on 07 July 2015 - 10:51 AM, said:

no but in another thread there is, point is cause the mech is small doesnt mean weapons should magically shrink ..... "honey i shrunk the 31st century weaponry?"

eeeeeeeh... kinda does.

best described with ballistics...

For the ballistics, we got AC 20's/ UAC 20's / LBX 20's as small as 40 mm cannons, and as big as 203 mm cannons.

The Urbanmech and urbanmech IIC obviously doesn't have a 203 mm cannon... and the atlas/ king crab/ direwolf/ couldron born/ highlander obviously do not use a 40 mm...

"how does a 40 mm cannon do the same damage as 203 mm cannon?!?" well basicly they fire different amount of bullets to do the same damage.
As you can kinda see with clans vs IS...


Anyway, the 40 mm cannon could fire the "AC 20" with 20 bullets with 1 damage each in quick rate of fire... the 203mm fires it in 1-2 shots.


however ppc's...
(panther art)

(panther in MW4 mektek)


Two examples of a ppc on a 35 tonner... I think it needs to be more pronounced and longer in both forward and backwards direction.

I rather like the commandos unique geometry but the ppc as usual needs polishing.

Edited by Nightshade24, 07 July 2015 - 01:04 PM.

[stjobe]

DONTOR, on 07 July 2015 - 12:46 PM, said:

Com- 3A (second from right) looks bad ass though, I really like that look. No model for SRM2s is a bit lame, but the CT missile looks decent to me.

This one?



I guess it's the camo that makes it look bad-ass.

It has a single energy hardpoint in each arm (with MLs in, yet it could be both SL or LL for all it shows), yet both arms have dual-hardpoint Boxes of Shame, the SRM-4 on the right arm is a LRM-5 with one plugged tube, and the SRM-6 in the chest looks like it's ... I don't even know. It looks like a stick-on, totally devoid of any actual depth into the torso. It's also misaligned, the top tubes are half out of the "plate" it's mounted on.

[Nightshade24]

stjobe, on 07 July 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

This one?



I guess it's the camo that makes it look bad-ass.

It has a single energy hardpoint in each arm (with MLs in, yet it could be both SL or LL for all it shows), yet both arms have dual-hardpoint Boxes of Shame, the SRM-4 on the right arm is a LRM-5 with one plugged tube, and the SRM-6 in the chest looks like it's ... I don't even know. It looks like a stick-on, totally devoid of any actual depth into the torso. It's also misaligned, the top tubes are half out of the "plate" it's mounted on.

kinda wish the duel boxes would cease on some mechs like this.

Edit: on applicable mechs... wasn't the commando already having the duel box thing earlier?

Edited by Nightshade24, 07 July 2015 - 01:06 PM.

[STEF_]

DONTOR, on 07 July 2015 - 12:46 PM, said:

Com- 3A (second from right) looks bad ass though, I really like that look. No model for SRM2s is a bit lame, but the CT missile looks decent to me.

To be honest I'm pretty worried about arm hitboxes.

Tomorrow I'm going to do extensive testing.
Because COM is THE COM, and it deserves high respect o7

[ChapeL]

Now the little guy gets to carry his "Lunchbox of death" to work with him...

[Deathlike]

ChapeL, on 07 July 2015 - 01:09 PM, said:

Now the little guy gets to carry his "Lunchbox of death" to work with him...

Well, someone's been stealing the Mist Lynx's lunch!

[TercieI]

My Death's Knell has lunchboxes on both arms. I haz a major sad. Just what the mech needed: MORE vulnerable weapons.

My beloved CDAs mostly got away clean (the 3C looks wonky), but the COM...ouch. Just ouch.

[stjobe]

Nightshade24, on 07 July 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

kinda wish the duel boxes would cease on some mechs like this.

Edit: on applicable mechs... wasn't the commando already having the duel box thing earlier?

That's the real kick in the face; no it didn't: Here's what the 3A looked like before the pass (art taken from the Game - BattleMechs page of this site):


That's a SRM-6 + Flamer in the right arm, a SRM-6 in the CT, and a ML - single hardpoint! - in the left arm.

Edit: Actually, that left arm weapon is a ML, but it's using the LL geometry. Still, it's not a dual-hardpoint Box of Shame.
Edit 2: Nope, that's what the COM ML looks like, the LL geometry can be seen in my post below; it's actually smaller than the ML geometry.

Edited by stjobe, 07 July 2015 - 01:43 PM.

[KharnZor]

wd PGI on making the coolest looking light look like absolute trash. How lazy can you guys be?

[Nightshade24]

stjobe, on 07 July 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:

That's the real kick in the face; no it didn't: Here's what the 3A looked like before the pass (art taken from the Game - BattleMechs page of this site):


That's a SRM-6 + Flamer in the right arm, a SRM-6 in the CT, and a ML - single hardpoint! - in the left arm.

Checked myself and it is present in the 1B and 1D variants... ofc it has 2E hardpoints- this mech was modeled after a mech with only 1E hardpoint so to say. You can't blame me for noticing the right arm which depicted only 1E weapon had a hardpoint visible for 2.

Forgive me if that was a missunderstanding however if you went through the effort to get the image from the wiki you could have also pointed out where I would have been mistaken ed and show me the 1B or 1D as well.

[stjobe]

Nightshade24, on 07 July 2015 - 01:35 PM, said:

Checked myself and it is present in the 1B and 1D variants... ofc it has 2E hardpoints- this mech was modeled after a mech with only 1E hardpoint so to say. You can't blame me for noticing the right arm which depicted only 1E weapon had a hardpoint visible for 2.

Forgive me if that was a missunderstanding however if you went through the effort to get the image from the wiki you could have also pointed out where I would have been mistaken ed and show me the 1B or 1D as well.

Sorry about that, I thought you were referring to the 3A I posted. Here's the 1B and 1D with their 2-hardpoint right arms (both come stock with a single LL in the RA):

[Bishop Steiner]

stjobe, on 07 July 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

This one?



I guess it's the camo that makes it look bad-ass.

It has a single energy hardpoint in each arm (with MLs in, yet it could be both SL or LL for all it shows), yet both arms have dual-hardpoint Boxes of Shame, the SRM-4 on the right arm is a LRM-5 with one plugged tube, and the SRM-6 in the chest looks like it's ... I don't even know. It looks like a stick-on, totally devoid of any actual depth into the torso. It's also misaligned, the top tubes are half out of the "plate" it's mounted on.

not to mention, with what we know of the actual cockpit space...the pilots feet would like, IN those top two tubes, lol.

[Chemie]

"Let's give the commando, one of the most useless mechs out there, much larger arms so people can shoot them off more quickly...that will show them"

PGI gg close

Edited by Chemie, 07 July 2015 - 01:44 PM.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 July 2015 - 01:41 PM, said:

not to mention, with what we know of the actual cockpit space...the pilots feet would like, IN those top two tubes, lol.

Those missile tubes are the Commando's "chest hairs". Amirite or what?