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[R Razor]

Kin3ticX, on 11 July 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

Units are not obligated to adapt to how the non organized players operate. Rather, the reverse is true.

Wrong, nobody is obligated to adapt to how any other player operates...........the fact that people like you think there are is a fundamental problem that PGI needs to address.

[Kristov Kerensky]

R Razor, on 11 July 2015 - 10:20 AM, said:

Wrong, nobody is obligated to adapt to how any other player operates...........the fact that people like you think there are is a fundamental problem that PGI needs to address.

You totally don't get how team oriented games work do you? Did you play ANY sports in school? It doesn't sound like it, not with that attitude, and it sounds like you've never even watched sports.

[MechWarrior3671771]

"On one map this could be acceptable. But we have what 3...4 Maps with go left or go right as the primary choices. Not a real thinking mans game there."

You know an easy fix that would get people like me back into CW? Throw all the pug maps into it. Most of them have drop points far enough away to avoid editing the maps. a 12 man skirmish on the new River City would be a blast. Make it worth less capture percentages if needed, but give us something besides the current choke point theme (which is not bad, its just bad because its all the time).

Throw in a reason for me to take planets (daily cbill stream?) and I'll be in CW 24/7

Also, rename it to Planetary.

[MechWarrior3671771]

"You totally don't get how team oriented games work do you?"

But you two aren't really talking about teamwork, you're talking about recruitment. If we want more people to enter the softball league, we are going to have a large segment that is not (yet) on a team roster. And we need them more than they need us. We don't have to grovel, but letting the issue become divisive won't get us where we want to go.

[LordKnightFandragon]

There is like 100 people in the Q fighting over 1 planet currently.

[Idealsuspect]

LordKnightFandragon, on 11 July 2015 - 11:37 AM, said:

There is like 100 people in the Q fighting over 1 planet currently.

how many planet in entiere galaxy map are contested right now ? a saturday night maybe 10

CW is half dead thats all

Edited by Idealsuspect, 11 July 2015 - 11:53 AM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Almost 200 in the CW ques for Kurita space atm. Once again, what you see in the CW que is ONLY for your faction's attack/defense lanes, that's it, it doesn't cover the entire map and everyone in CW.

[R Razor]

Kristov Kerensky, on 11 July 2015 - 10:24 AM, said:

You totally don't get how team oriented games work do you? Did you play ANY sports in school? It doesn't sound like it, not with that attitude, and it sounds like you've never even watched sports.

So since you can't defend your position that players are obligated to play the way YOU want to play you choose to make assumptions about me?

Right, at least I know in the future that nothing you say is of any merit and need not bother considering your posts.

[Jon Gotham]

R Razor, on 11 July 2015 - 10:20 AM, said:

Wrong, nobody is obligated to adapt to how any other player operates...........the fact that people like you think there are is a fundamental problem that PGI needs to address.

The fact you seem to think its ok to do whatever you want regardless of the impact to those around might just be an issue too.
The fact you probably see no issue with what you just wrote is kinda worrying...
Obligations are everywhere in life which bind us all wether you like it or not, wether you accept the FACT or not. Unless of course you are a sociopath....?

[One Medic Army]

Kristov Kerensky, on 11 July 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

Oh...I see, you want to play statistical musical chairs where YOU decide when the music plays and stops, and only YOU can hear it on top of that, cool! I know that game, and I know that when you pull that crap, it means you've got nothing to back your claims up so you pull stuff out of..well..you know.

CW isn't finished, pure and simple, all the rest of the bs reasons are bs reasons. There's no incentive to play CW except to test it, and most of us who want to play CW have tested the hell out of it already, so we're mostly tired of it until the next phase comes out. It's not like we're getting paid to test it after all, actually, most of US are paying TO test it, so, yeah, kind of burned out until the next phase comes out.

You missed it.

I said the statistics are meaningless because they're not applicable.

You're the one trying to assign significance from the price of an apple to how much oranges cost.

[Idealsuspect]

Kristov Kerensky, on 11 July 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

Almost 200 in the CW ques for Kurita space atm. Once again, what you see in the CW que is ONLY for your faction's attack/defense lanes, that's it, it doesn't cover the entire map and everyone in CW.

150 for davion and? in, our opinion there is how many players playing / waiting a saturday night ? 10000 ? or cmaybe closer to 1000

1000 = CW half dead

or course 150 for davion don't mean they are all davions players ... lots of mariks steiner kuritan pugs there ...

Edited by Idealsuspect, 11 July 2015 - 12:30 PM.

[R Razor]

kamiko kross, on 11 July 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:

The fact you seem to think its ok to do whatever you want regardless of the impact to those around might just be an issue too.
The fact you probably see no issue with what you just wrote is kinda worrying...
Obligations are everywhere in life which bind us all wether you like it or not, wether you accept the FACT or not. Unless of course you are a sociopath....?

The only behavior I see that even comes close to your "sociopath" subtype is the behavior exhibited by you and your buddy and your constant crowing that everyone has to play your way.

Guess what skippy, this is a GAME not real life, and in this GAME there is absolutely ZERO requirement for anyone to play YOUR way...........just like you aren't obligated to play the game THEIR way. Get over yourselves already.

And if you honestly think I give two damns about your "worry" over my opinion on this matter you have a LOT to learn..........maybe start with some spelling lessons, whether you believe you need them or not.

Edited by R Razor, 11 July 2015 - 12:15 PM.

[Bloody]

Kristov Kerensky, on 11 July 2015 - 10:24 AM, said:

You totally don't get how team oriented games work do you? Did you play ANY sports in school? It doesn't sound like it, not with that attitude, and it sounds like you've never even watched sports.

your reading comprehension is poor. Sports participation is not sports conformation. Perhaps you should go back to school and relearn?

[TWIAFU]

Bloody, on 11 July 2015 - 12:17 PM, said:

your reading comprehension is poor. Sports participation is not sports conformation. Perhaps you should go back to school and relearn?

To participate in a sport you agree to conform to the rules of that sport.

Maybe you should try a team sport.

[TWIAFU]

Idealsuspect, on 11 July 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

150 for davion and? in, our opinion there is how many players playing / waiting a saturday night ? 10000 ? or cmaybe closer to 1000

1000 = CW half dead

or course 150 for davion don't mean they are all davions players ... lots of mariks steiner kuritan pugs there ...

We have 160-180+ defenders right now on a Saturday afternoon, 4.30pm est, dealing on 3 fronts.

So, by your logic, CW is half dead and when prime time hits and numbers go up then CW is less dead.

Yea! less dead CW in prime time when more people are online playing!

[R Razor]

TWIAFU, on 11 July 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

To participate in a sport you agree to conform to the rules of that sport.

Maybe you should try a team sport.

Yep, the RULES.............not the "This is how we want it" whining that a lot of you on here have been doing. If the RULES said you MUST be in a unit to play CW then you and the rest of the whiners would have a point........but the RULES don't say that do they? Maybe you should learn to READ.

I realize this will fall on deaf ears, you and your type are not capable of understanding that a BUSINESS needs to cater to the MAJORITY (in this industry at any rate) if they want to succeed......based on the numbers, YOU ARE NOT THE MAJORITY.............so again, get over yourselves.

Edited by R Razor, 11 July 2015 - 12:44 PM.

[Mirkk Defwode]

TWIAFU, on 11 July 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

To participate in a sport you agree to conform to the rules of that sport.

Maybe you should try a team sport.

He is playing by the rules, those are created by PGI and integrated into the game itself for the Victory conditions, mechanics of movement and combat, state of the map being played. Those are the rules defining the game. The action of a user is then up to their own bias or personality.

Good example to real world sports would be in Soccer, you can have the Goalie stick to the goal, or be aggressive and play up the field. Now the best goalies do their prescribed jobs, but not all of them choose to play that way. It's in the rules for them to do it, but it isn't the defined job or purpose on the team.

Personally I think everyone sounds rather hostile over this subject though in the exchange. I agree there is a degree of teamwork people should attempt to adhere to, but being forced to join units, engage in practice, or be highly social is a choice - and it's each individual's right to choose to do those things...or not.

[GeistHrafn]

Thanks for all the good points folks, but the personal attacks have continued unfortunately. Down the k-town drain.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Bloody, on 11 July 2015 - 12:17 PM, said:

your reading comprehension is poor. Sports participation is not sports conformation. Perhaps you should go back to school and relearn?

Obviously you never played team sports, as conformation to the team is not only expected, it's required, failure to do it gets you removed from playing and benched at the least, removed from the team totally if you continue to refuse to conform. This applies at all levels of team sports, from elementary school to professional, so I would have to assume you have never played any team sports since you seem to be unaware of this.

As to how many people are in CW, it was 2pm Central Time in the US when I posted the 200 in Kurta's AoE, on a Saturday afternoon in the summer, so I'm rather surprised there are THAT many people playing.

[Karamarka]

CW should reward for owning planets.

If you fought on planet X, at least twice. Than your faction captures it, as long as your faction holds it you get income from it.

This would mean that you actually have to fight the battles to get the income, and playing CW to get the most planets for your faction would be a worthwhile endeavour (more stable CW population)