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Is There Any Reason To Ever Keep/use The Summoner?


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#1 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:50 AM

I have over 250 games in my Thor. The more I play it, the more I realize what a waste of time it is to use the mech.

It looses side torsos like crazy
its arm hardpoints are useless on maps with multiple terrain levels(Caustic)
Cant even us it's iconic PPC without over heating or having to boat DHS
has zero DPS when you do use all of hits hardpoints due to no DHS(ac10+4ml's over heats it)
No energy ST hardpoints
I could keep going and going....

Once you own the any other Clan heavy, the Thor is pointless since cookie cutter laser builds simply do not work on it.

I think I'll keep it for a few more months, if its not quirked or if PGI doesnt move its arms up a bit, Im freeing up a mech bay.


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#2 Zaldier

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:51 AM

Short of an lrm boat I cant get this thing to do a dam thing, just another lame clan mech that would get owned by any IS mech from light to assault. Totally pointless.

Just sold mine.

#3 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:53 AM

Irony?

#4 Zaldier

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:54 AM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 11 July 2015 - 08:53 AM, said:

Irony?


Context ?

#5 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:57 AM

View PostBalvier, on 11 July 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

Short of an lrm boat I cant get this thing to do a dam thing, just another lame clan mech that would get owned by any IS mech from light to assault. Totally pointless.

Just sold mine.

LMAO I just swapped my build to LRMs to try them out on it hahaha!!! Never ran LRMs on it before, whats your build??

#6 Poisoner

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:58 AM

Eh, I find that I like the hell out of my Summoner. Try running 2 ERLL and 2 ERML with a bunch of heatsinks for a lot of fun.

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:00 AM

View Postmogs01gt, on 11 July 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

LMAO I just swapped my build to LRMs to try them out on it hahaha!!! Never ran LRMs on it before, whats your build??


TBH i just sold it, if you want a clan LRM boat get a Mad Dog A, excellent mech, I use 6xLRM 5+Art 8t of ammo, 4x SPL and get a LRM cooldown module really fun mech, chain fire rules if you get a 3xAMS kit fox fire all together to overcome it.

Mad Dog A

Summoner is a POS.

Edited by Balvier, 11 July 2015 - 09:05 AM.


#8 Steve Pryde

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:09 AM

View PostPoisoner, on 11 July 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

Eh, I find that I like the hell out of my Summoner. Try running 2 ERLL and 2 ERML with a bunch of heatsinks for a lot of fun.

Yeah, it's fun to run a heavy like a light mech. In MW4 the Summoner was my favorite mech by far and here it's just crap. Just let the worse clan mechs do endo/ferro and remove JJs if they want to.

#9 Kira Onime

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:13 AM

View PostPoisoner, on 11 July 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

Eh, I find that I like the hell out of my Summoner. Try running 2 ERLL and 2 ERML with a bunch of heatsinks for a lot of fun.



Why bother?
Just about any other clan heavy can do it better.

#10 Monkey Lover

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:15 AM

Other than for maybe fun..... its a waste. I wasted 30 bucks cash on wave 1.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 11 July 2015 - 09:16 AM.


#11 Lostdragon

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:26 AM

I do well with it using 2x UAC5 and 4 CERML. After the JJs got a bit of a buff you can actually get vertical and set up ambushes and such.

#12 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:32 AM

View PostLostdragon, on 11 July 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

I do well with it using 2x UAC5 and 4 CERML. After the JJs got a bit of a buff you can actually get vertical and set up ambushes and such.

runs way to hot in real combat

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:35 AM

Fun,agile mech,the speed and mobility quirks made it really stand out,it moves like an 50-tonner.

Good as a poptart or srm-bomber,i usually run mine with UAC10 + PPC with the omnis that give -30 jam chance to uacs and ppc speed boost.Good damage over time build that works at 0-500 meter ranges.

Only thing it needs is laser-nipples(pssst. PGI,HERO IDEA)

#14 Lostdragon

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:36 AM

View Postmogs01gt, on 11 July 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

runs way to hot in real combat


Maybe if you don't have double basics...

#15 ilikerice

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:37 AM

View PostSteve Pryde, on 11 July 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

Yeah, it's fun to run a heavy like a light mech. In MW4 the Summoner was my favorite mech by far and here it's just crap. Just let the worse clan mechs do endo/ferro and remove JJs if they want to.


The problem is that it IS a light mech in a heavy body, but people dont run it that way. You can load up the hardpoints and you dont need heatsinks because you cool down while running from position to position, not facetanking the enemy.

You can make a super mobile lrm100 in this guy, or even dual gauss. Lots of builds are possible when you run less armour, and if you're quick and plan your attacks you dont need it. The playstyle needs to change, not the mech.

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:37 AM

Is there a reason? Sure there's plenty.

Do YOU have a reason? Well, mogs, obviously YOU don't. Do you want us to tell you that it's ok that you can't get mileage out of the mech? Are you looking for justification? WTH do you want from us, exactly?

#17 Kin3ticX

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:38 AM

I have been using nothing but 3xSummoner GaussERPPC poptarts and a Streakfox in CW for like almost 2 months.


https://docs.google....g7925b2718_3875

Edited by Kin3ticX, 11 July 2015 - 09:41 AM.


#18 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:49 AM

View PostEscef, on 11 July 2015 - 09:37 AM, said:

Is there a reason? Sure there's plenty.

Do YOU have a reason? Well, mogs, obviously YOU don't. Do you want us to tell you that it's ok that you can't get mileage out of the mech? Are you looking for justification? WTH do you want from us, exactly?

troll harder

#19 Escef

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:51 AM

View Postmogs01gt, on 11 July 2015 - 09:49 AM, said:

troll harder


I'm asking you an honest question. What. do. you. want. from. us?

#20 Lostdragon

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:52 AM

View Postmogs01gt, on 11 July 2015 - 09:49 AM, said:

troll harder


He has a point, you just seem to be looking for confirmation of your negative opinion of the mech.





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