45 replies to this topic

[El Bandito]

For the duration of the event, both servers. After that, EU all the way.

Half the ping > longer wait time.

Edited by El Bandito, 22 July 2015 - 10:23 PM.

[Naduk]

im from OZ so my normal ping is about 260, EU bumps it to about 300-320 , so i will leave both on just like all the game modes

[Deathpactt]

EU only. from 155 ping to 55 was a big upgrade for me. I usualy play from 22.00pm to 2.00am or sometimes more and at this time period wait time is like 2-3 mins with all classes. I am realy happy about Eu servers
Also I want to add I can wait 10 mins in the queue to play at this ping.

El Bandito, on 22 July 2015 - 10:23 PM, said:

For the duration of the event, both servers. After that, EU all the way.

Half the ping > longer wait time.

Exacly this.

[Deathpactt]

1453 R, on 22 July 2015 - 05:42 PM, said:

I average between 40-70 ping on the NA servers and roughly 140-150 on the EU. I don't see any huge differences between the two (must not be l33t enough), so I leave both flipped on. Better matches, and a better reception for the EU guys' new toy.

I am somewhat dismayed by the amount of hostility I've seen from a couple of EU guys over the whole thing, though. It's not at all a common issue, most of them just seem delighted to finally have the option and I'm happy it's working so well for them...but when I see someone say "FINALLY the goddamn Americans get to see what it's like on the right side of the ocean", I'm left wondering when I missed the meeting where 'Americans' decided that the Canadian company was going to work exclusively on NA servers back when they were developing on a shoestring and had to answer to IGP.

I'unno. I'm not really complaining so much as just baffled by the vindictiveness I've seen a few times. I've never wished bad ping on anyone, honest o_o.

Well I see way more than a couple forum users that says EU servers is bad for game and a deal breaker for them because they wait longer on NA servers. I say to them come to EU side play with 150 ping just like we did for years and I think its justified.

[Xetelian]

I'm keeping all modes and servers selected.

[NeoCodex]

Alistair Winter, on 22 July 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

For this event I'm only on EU servers. I'll definitely be playing NA servers too when the event is over.

I love EU servers because there's such an interesting mix of people, so many different characters.
German: "Ze enemy mechs are crossing ze bridge! Vee must flank zem immediately!"
Scottish: "No laddie! We hit and run! The highland way!"
British: "Nah, let's get stuck in, mate! Smash 'em good and propah!"
French: <exhales cigarette smoke> "Bien sur, my English comrade is right. Death comes to us all." <Edith Piaf music heard in the background>

NA servers are fun too. The Americans have a great sense of humour, I laugh my ass off playing with those guys. (Except for the very angry neckbeards who use VOIP to cuss at their team, which is also pretty exclusive to the American crowd, in my experience)

I think this is the funniest post I've ever read on these forums. Really well described. Unfortunately EUs don't talk much on voip, but things can get interesting on TS, once you add a mix of these personalities . I once had a gaming group with players exactly from the countries listed, and jokes about germans, brits and french baguettes were flying all around. It was specially funny when one of us landed on the enemy team, then everybody wanted to kill the frenchie for some reason. Also we had one Italian dude that always sounded extremely pissed, but apparently that's normal way of talking in Italy. Also had had a Russian and Japanese in the group, but they didn't talk at all, I don't think that the jappie even understood what we were saying, but he was probably our best player.

Edited by NeoCodex, 23 July 2015 - 12:26 AM.

[Eboli]

Based in Australia. My ping to NA is around 248 and to EU is 320-330. That is a big difference. Cannot wait for the Oceania server as that will be my new home and I will ditch the NA server. Roll on August!

Cheers
Eboli

[JernauM]

I will keep dropping on both servers. I get roughly 200 ping to the NA servers and about half that for the EU servers, and they are both fine as far as the in-game experience.

[Deathpactt]

Eboli, on 23 July 2015 - 12:36 AM, said:

Based in Australia. My ping to NA is around 248 and to EU is 320-330. That is a big difference. Cannot wait for the Oceania server as that will be my new home and I will ditch the NA server. Roll on August!

Cheers
Eboli

There are realy a good amount of ppl from Australia I guess, I see lots of Australian on the forums. I hope you will get your server soon, its the best thing ever:P

[Speedy Plysitkos]

i deselect US.

130 vs 20 is too much impact.

[NeoCodex]

Titannium, on 23 July 2015 - 01:05 AM, said:

i deselect US.

130 vs 20 is too much impact.

post edit: just noticed you deselected NA but I thought it's the opposite. Well, the logic is still the same and goes for the both sides. For the sake of not changing the post, let's say you would be on the NA side and deselect EU because of 130>20, because that's what I initially wrote:

I can't speak for the poor guys from Ocenia but at least they're a minority, but what do you think how did Europeans - which is about 40% of the playerbase, play until now with average pings 140-220?

I find 150 ping perfectly playable (sometimes I get 190-210 servers), it dropped now to 50ish - IIrc, and i can barely feel a difference.

TBH saying that it's too much of a difference to refuse playing on both servers is a poor, self-centered and entitled excuse. I will still continue playing on NA, the only real problems were some random catastrophic, weird 5000 ping lag spikes in CW, but anything under 200 with the new HSR seems completely fine now.

If we really have enough population to afford deselecting a server and keep the matches fair and queue times short, than I'm all for it. But as it is now, I prefer keeping both options on, because I favor more balanced matches over almost unnoticable change of a 100 ping.

I know that in some games 150-200 would be too much - for example in Star Conflict, where ships fly 200-600 m/s, the NA server was always quite a bit laggy for us, and during high speeds ships wobbled like a drunken tanker. And that was at 150 ping - almost unplayable. Still playable, but lag spikes and ship wobbling was present and annoying. While their Asian server with >250 ping was completely unplayable and broken if you by any chance landed on it. There, anything above 100 was a real problem. Here, in MWO, even up to 200 feels fine, even with the old HSR (guess we got used to it) it was acceptable, but now is pretty good; so it also depends on the game quite a lot.

tl;dr: 130 ping is still playable for this game, specially with the new HSR, and I don't think it's worth disabling it as long as you are below 160.

Edited by NeoCodex, 23 July 2015 - 04:50 AM.

[Sjorpha]

I might stick to EU for a while just to test out the impact of having low ping, but both servers work fine for me. I get 30-40 on EU and 120-140 on US, so none of them has high enough ping to cause any noticable issues.

I'll probably uncheck oceania if they add it, but I'll try and see how it works first.

[WhiteRabbit]

NeoCodex, on 23 July 2015 - 04:39 AM, said:

SNIP

TBH saying that it's too much of a difference to refuse playing on both servers is a poor, self-centered and entitled excuse. I will still continue playing on NA, the only real problems were some random catastrophic, weird 5000 ping lag spikes in CW, but anything under 200 with the new HSR seems completely fine now.

I don't get why there needs to be an excuse. Even if the difference were just psychological, if it feels better i don't see a reason why someone should force himself to play on the other server.

[Lugh]

Escef, on 22 July 2015 - 05:49 PM, said:

I seriously saw a European player say that American players were exploiting/farming Europeans by playing during their peak/near-peak hours. And I was like, well, excuse me for working nights and wanting to relax and game when I get home.

Europe where everyone works 8-4pm and has 8 weeks vacation, yet can still afford to live!! They can't fathom 24-7? living and working?

Titannium, on 23 July 2015 - 01:05 AM, said:

i deselect US.

130 vs 20 is too much impact.

I find little to no difference between the two.

I have hit my score marks more easily for the current contest on the European side, as I am getting games there faster than on the NA side...

[Dracol]

240+ ping to EU from Florida. Sticking with NA.

[NeoCodex]

WhiteRabbit, on 23 July 2015 - 04:52 AM, said:

I don't get why there needs to be an excuse. Even if the difference were just psychological, if it feels better i don't see a reason why someone should force himself to play on the other server.

Because as I mentioned, balanced games (if such a thing exists) and shorter queue times for everyone (as Russ likes to say, "making more buckets").

[Steinar Bergstol]

I'm about 120 ping on US and about 50 - 60 on Euro. And I'm not good enough for that difference to have much effect on how much I suck, so I play both.

[Deathpactt]

NeoCodex, on 23 July 2015 - 04:39 AM, said:

TBH saying that it's too much of a difference to refuse playing on both servers is a poor, self-centered and entitled excuse. I will still continue playing on NA, the only real problems were some random catastrophic, weird 5000 ping lag spikes in CW, but anything under 200 with the new HSR seems completely fine now.

If I want to wait a couple more minutes to play a more enjoyable game on EU side, I chose to wait. its no self centered and entitled excuse. If you do not feel a different between 50 and 150 ping its good for you but I do feel the difference. I have no desire to play on NA server again except events or if I want to play when all EU is sleeping or something.

[zagibu]

NeoCodex, on 23 July 2015 - 04:39 AM, said:

tl;dr: 130 ping is still playable for this game, specially with the new HSR, and I don't think it's worth disabling it as long as you are below 160.

Is it playable? Sure. Is it better with 100ms less ping? Yes it is. Sorry, but the fact that you feel no difference doesn't mean nobody else does either.

[NeoCodex]

Well that's at least from how much I played yesterday, I really didn't notice a marginable difference that would actually impact the outcome of the game. I'm surprised that so many can.