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[deputydog]

Who cares if they look diff, I ust want the TT hardpoints/configs. Most of the young whipper snappers playing this game have no clue what those mechs look like anyway.

[Hoshi Toranaga]

The problem with many unseen is also, that they are characterized by their weapon loadout.
I loved the Warhammer in TT and I think I was most successful in this mech, but the loudout I used (2 PPCs, Pulse Lasers, Streaks) would totally suck in MWO, since PPCs are total bull at this time.
Many of the canon builds evolve around either gauss, AC or PPCs and the PPC builds are just unusable. (Like the latest Awesome... 3 ER PPCs? unusable in MWO, loved it it TT. Of course it rules in MWO with med lasers and SRMs instead of the useless PPCs...)

[Terror Teddy]

As long as they NEVER put in the godawful Robotech LAMS.

They were pretty rare in 3025 with only about 2000 existing and then we add that only 1 factory creating the spare parts in existence got stomped and taken over by the clans in 2049 or so...

And no new ones are in production.

Then we spread out these old museum pieces over the several hundred:
-Worlds
-Factions
-Merc Corps
-Houses
-Museums

which tells us that any 'transformer' style mech is as likely to pop up on the battlefield as a pink thong wearing Natasha Kerensky waving Pom-Poms.

Edited by Terror Teddy, 13 November 2012 - 05:52 AM.

[Wolf Ender]

the only mechs on this list I would even care to see in this game are

Marauder
Rifleman
Warhammer
the rest, no big loss.

[James The Fox Dixon]

Terror Teddy, on 13 November 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

As long as they NEVER put in the godawful Robotech LAMS.

They were pretty rare in 3025 with only about 2000 existing and then we add that only 1 factory creating the spare parts in existence got stomped and taken over by the clans in 2049 or so...

And no new ones are in production.

Then we spread out these old museum pieces over the several hundred:
-Worlds
-Factions
-Merc Corps
-Houses
-Museums

which tells us that any 'transformer' style mech is as likely to pop up on the battlefield as a pink thong wearing Natasha Kerensky waving Pom-Poms.

Your own argument is flawed since the mechs in MW:O, except the Atlas, are very, very rare. If you are going to use logic to deprive a sizeable part of the player base of LAMs then you have to use it for all mechs in the game. Also, you do realize that LAMs predate Robotech by a year. The more correct answer are the LAMs that Robotech ripped off from Fasa.

Edited by James The Fox Dixon, 13 November 2012 - 07:03 AM.

[Tickdoff Tank]

James The Fox Dixon, on 13 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Your own argument is flawed since the mechs in MW:O, except the Atlas, are very, very rare. If you are going to use logic to deprive a sizeable part of the player base of LAMs then you have to use it for all mechs in the game. Also, you do realize that LAMs predate Robotech by a year. The more correct answer are the LAMs that Robotech ripped off from Fasa.

Centurions, Hunchbacks and Jenners are not rare in our current timeline. Nor are Catapults. I am also pretty sure that the COmmando and Raven saw quite a bit of use.

[Enig]

Jacob Davion, on 05 July 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

THAT LIST WAS ATTAINED BY SARNA. Thank YOU and have a great day.

You don't have an attitude deserving of your twinkie Davion name

[Karyudo ds]

James The Fox Dixon, on 13 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

The more correct answer are the LAMs that Robotech ripped off from Fasa.

And the actual correct answer would be the LAM that FASA ripped off from Bigwest which made Macross. Funny, people still think Robotech is anything more than a bunch cobbled together legitimate anime and that FASA actually designed any of it's original mechs.

[James The Fox Dixon]

Karyudo ds, on 13 November 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

And the actual correct answer would be the LAM that FASA ripped off from Bigwest which made Macross. Funny, people still think Robotech is anything more than a bunch cobbled together legitimate anime and that FASA actually designed any of it's original mechs.

It's hard to rip off something when you have a license. Reading comprehension anyone?

[Joseph Mallan]

Tickdoff Tank, on 13 November 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

Centurions, Hunchbacks and Jenners are not rare in our current timeline. Nor are Catapults. I am also pretty sure that the COmmando and Raven saw quite a bit of use.

You are sorta right sorta wrong,

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When the Star League fell, many of the remaining Catapults joined Aleksandr Kerensky on his Exodus. The Capellan Confederation collected most of the Catapults that remained in the Inner Sphere, and the Hollis factory on Corey briefly produced new models and spare parts. At the same time, the Draconis Combine managed to seize a sizable force in their capture of Dieron. The renewed production ended when the Corey factory was destroyed at the onset of the First Succession War, ensuring the rarity of the Catapult during the rest of that bloody era. Entire invasions were commenced simply to seize the remaining number of these 'Mechs, particularly those launched by the Federated Suns against the Confederation.
Many variants of this venerable design were produced through its lifetime, and theCatapult's rarity began to reverse in 3033 when Yori 'Mech Works was contracted by the DCMS to produce the completely-revamped CPLT-2K on Al Na'ir. The greatest change to the chassis came later, with the introduction of the CPLT-C3, which swapped out the original's LRMs for much larger and more powerful artillery missiles. These models were put to excellent use, especially when paired withRavens, and paved the way for new design advancements.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 13 November 2012 - 10:26 AM.

[Teralitha]

I recall reading somewhere that the issue between MWO and harmony gold was just rumor. Nothing is stopping unseen mechs from being added to MWO. Look at MW4.... unseen mechs everywhere. How will this be any different? Unseen mechs incoming....

[Clay Pigeon]

All reseen will be hero mech only, is my guess.

[JayVrb]

Good day.

[Karyudo ds]

James The Fox Dixon, on 13 November 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

It's hard to rip off something when you have a license. Reading comprehension anyone?

Yes, Bigwest certainly licensed it's biggest product. Must be why they were in a legal battle for so long with the idiots licensing it's stuff. Legal comprehension anyone?

[James The Fox Dixon]

Karyudo ds, on 13 November 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Yes, Bigwest certainly licensed it's biggest product. Must be why they were in a legal battle for so long with the idiots licensing it's stuff. Legal comprehension anyone?

Except that Bigwest didn't and still doesn't own the designs. Only Studio Nue does. Legal comprehension anyone?

[Karyudo ds]

James The Fox Dixon, on 13 November 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Except that Bigwest didn't and still doesn't own the designs. Only Studio Nue does. Legal comprehension anyone?

Oh so now you know who Bigwest is. Good job.

[James The Fox Dixon]

Karyudo ds, on 13 November 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

Oh so now you know who Bigwest is. Good job.

They were the advertising agent that sponsored SDFM, but that still doesn't mean they owned the copyrights to the mechs and character designs. Studio Nue owns them and has always owned them.

[Karyudo ds]

James The Fox Dixon, on 13 November 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

They were the advertising agent that sponsored SDFM, but that still doesn't mean they owned the copyrights to the mechs and character designs. Studio Nue owns them and has always owned them.

Right. So how did Robotech rip off FASA exactly?

[Imagine Dragons]

I think that the arguement that "LAMs were rare in the lore!" doesn't hold much water when the same lore says that "Assaults and to some to degree Heavy mechs ranged from uncomon to rare compared to their Medium and Light mech cousins"

When every player in the game can own an Atlas, regardless of purchase cost.

Just saying...

Edited by XenomorphZZ, 13 November 2012 - 10:53 AM.

[BlackSquirrel]

******* lawyers!!