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[Fate 6]

Felio, on 23 July 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:

Before the nerfs I ran 7MPL FS9-S. It was a bit hot but it was absolutely brutal to play against. 42 damage alpha at 242m is huge when it's pinpoint and on a mech that fast

Time to try 6ERML ACH.... THAT will be hot but damn will it scare people

Edited by Fate 6, 23 July 2015 - 01:23 PM.

[Koniks]

Fate 6, on 23 July 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

Before the nerfs I ran 7MPL FS9-S. It was a bit hot but it was absolutely brutal to play against. 42 damage alpha at 242m is huge when it's pinpoint and on a mech that fast

Time to try 6ERML ACH.... THAT will be hot but damn will it scare people

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[Escef]

Greenjulius, on 23 July 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

The Ferret isn't much better.

The Ice Ferret gets trash talked a lot, but it is far from a bad mech. It moves a lot like a Cicada, and gets acceptable energy and missile points. It's only real sin is that there isn't much variety in what you can do with the mech.

[Greenjulius]

Escef, on 23 July 2015 - 08:59 PM, said:

The Ice Ferret gets trash talked a lot, but it is far from a bad mech. It moves a lot like a Cicada, and gets acceptable energy and missile points. It's only real sin is that there isn't much variety in what you can do with the mech.

It's also bigger and taller than a cicada, and confined to 9 tons for weapons unless you armor strip like a madman. I did say "it's not much better," because it is better off than the Mist Lynx, as it has 5x energy hardpoints available.

I wouldn't say it is a bad mech, but it is definitely trying hard to be mediocre.

[Escef]

Greenjulius, on 23 July 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

It's also bigger and taller than a cicada, and confined to 9 tons for weapons unless you armor strip like a madman. I did say "it's not much better," because it is better off than the Mist Lynx, as it has 5x energy hardpoints available. I wouldn't say it is a bad mech, but it is definitely trying hard to be mediocre.

Height is not much of a detriment in this game. People said the Grasshopper was going to be DOA because of height, it wasn't. Before that, the Shadowhawk was going to be DOA because of height, it turned out to be the best pre-clan medium in the game. Width, however, is a detriment in MWO, and the most glaring example is the Awesome.

At any rate, the Ice Ferret is just fine with non-large lasers and maybe some flavor of SRM. It's a decent little skirmisher, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with it. It's only real failing is the lack of variety, you have to get weird if you want to run more than 2 builds (my third Ferret is LRM15 and a bunch of ERSLs, because I'd already done mediums and/or SRMs on the other 2).

[DebaucheryNShenanigans]

5 x flamers,
1x SSRM 4

shut em down, kill em, or run away....
operate close with lights..

fantastic troll.

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[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

1:30

Vorpal overheats right in front of a gauss direcow.

Direcow can't get the right angle to shoot him.

"Just as planned." Am I right?

[Steve Pryde]

Even with 5 SPL it's a beast and runs pretty cool with additional 2 double heat sinks.

I Zeratul I, on 24 July 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:

1:30

Vorpal overheats right in front of a gauss direcow.

Direcow can't get the right angle to shoot him.

"Just as planned." Am I right?

Give that scene TheBeef and he will make an awesome video with that.

Edited by Steve Pryde, 24 July 2015 - 08:43 AM.

[DONTOR]

Escef, on 23 July 2015 - 08:59 PM, said:

The Ice Ferret gets trash talked a lot, but it is far from a bad mech. It moves a lot like a Cicada, and gets acceptable energy and missile points. It's only real sin is that there isn't much variety in what you can do with the mech.

Here here, I can scrap Cheetahs all day in it. One of my highest KDR mechs also, with alot more HP than other 45 toners after quirks.

[Ultimax]

Pariah Devalis, on 23 July 2015 - 12:43 PM, said:

I stopped at 6 SPlas and an ECM. 7.5% ain't bad, and I cannot goof up and hit ghost heat.

7x CSLPLs without Ghost Heat = 21 heat
7x CSLPLs with Ghost Heat = 24.4 heat
7x CSLPLs with Ghost Heat -12.5% less heat from quirks = 21.35 heat


7x CSPLs is 42 point alpha, for 21.35 heat at 182m with T5 module.




...and PGI actually reduced the quirks on the FS9-A knowing the Arctic Cheetah was coming.

[Sagamore]

This looks like a Clan light I would be interested in trying when it is released for C-Bills. What are the chances it will still be worth playing in that time?

[RedDevil]

Pretty good.

[Mcgral18]

Sagamore, on 24 July 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

This looks like a Clan light I would be interested in trying when it is released for C-Bills. What are the chances it will still be worth playing in that time?

Without any quirks, it would have been pretty good.


Then they gave it quirks better than other Tier 1 Lights (relatively speaking) as well as Tier 3 Lights.

[1453 R]

Greenjulius, on 23 July 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

I take it as a sign that PGI gave up on the **** lynx. That thing is seriously one of the most useless mechs in the game. The Ferret isn't much better. Wave 2 buyers got screwed... You know you've got bad mechs when the Gladbag is the 2nd best mech in the pack.

As for 7xSPL, I can't image running that when I have trouble with 6x. DPS seems just about right with 5x, and plays similar to a cross of a FS9-A with SPLs and FS9-S with MPLs. It's a great mech either way, and should please all clan players who are tired of slow lights.

My personal favorite seems to be shaping up to be the 2xERML, 4xERSL, ECM, 3xDHS build. Those 2xERML work great as pokers, while the ERSL are used when DPS is needed.

That last one's the exact build I've been running. It's phenomenal, tremendous fun to run. You get good poke-and-prod range out of the shoulder cERML, while the cERSL are excellent swordfighting lasers. Heat's not bad if you can keep your finger off the ML trigger in close, though I've been known to stab with all six when fishing for a kill or desperately saying "BACK OFF, BRO!" to some adventurous OpFor Shadow Cat. I imagine we all do.

Haven't put much playtime into the Shadow Cat yet with the bloated medium queue the way it is, but the Cheetah's everything I was hoping it would be. So nice...

[Sagamore]

Mcgral18, on 24 July 2015 - 11:34 AM, said:

Without any quirks, it would have been pretty good.


Then they gave it quirks better than other Tier 1 Lights (relatively speaking) as well as Tier 3 Lights.

Working as intended? Put a buffed mech behind a paywall to generate money. Nerf in time for c-bill release. Its been done before.

[Fate 6]

Mizeur, on 23 July 2015 - 08:41 PM, said:

link

What?
Do you want me to post the 7mpl FS or did you fail to copy pasta the link?

[Deathlike]

Ultimatum X, on 24 July 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

7x CSLPLs without Ghost Heat = 21 heat
7x CSLPLs with Ghost Heat = 24.4 heat
7x CSLPLs with Ghost Heat -12.5% less heat from quirks = 21.35 heat


7x CSPLs is 42 point alpha, for 21.35 heat at 182m with T5 module.




...and PGI actually reduced the quirks on the FS9-A knowing the Arctic Cheetah was coming.

Preemptive overbuff, probably to be nerfed batted way after its official release.

Always the plan™.

[topgun505]

I got a 5 kill 3 assist 1000+ damage game with a 6x SPL ARC yesterday. But most of my other games hovered around 2 kills and 400 damage.

It's damn hot ... though I don't have it elited yet.

For the next variant I'll try 6x ERSL with extra DHS and see how it compares. The 2x ERML + 4x ERSL sounds interesting too (better able to shoot down UAVs with that. )

[Koniks]

Fate 6, on 24 July 2015 - 11:50 AM, said:

What?
Do you want me to post the 7mpl FS or did you fail to copy pasta the link?

Yes, you had the tools to do it yourself. We need a letmesurfythatforyou.com.

[xVenTriSx]

While i dont have the ACH-C variant.... i have made something of a lil beast with the Prime var.... 2x C-ERML, 2x C-SRM 4, C-ECM, 1 C-DHS and 2 tons of SRM ammo.

an heres the result in one of my best games with it, it takes some managing on the heat, poking over the tops of cliffs ect with the Med lasers, but you can go beast mode with the srms an the lasers, 30 alpha (tad lower than the SPL builds) but it shakes the cockpit enough to make em back off!:

http://postimg.org/image/m5gn1dn67/