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[Uncle Totty]

Please remove citadel form River City. All changes to the map layout are made moot because of it.

Edit: To fix my poor grammar.

Edited by Nathan K, 25 July 2015 - 08:23 AM.

[Hotthedd]

I never noticed the citadel made any sounds at all before.

[Alistair Winter]

I see what you're saying. They made the map bigger on both sides of the river, but we're still essentially fighting over most area most of the time. Either the Citadel or the stretch between Upper city and Space port. The best defensive positions are close to the river on both sides. Upper City and Lower city on one side, Citadel and Space port on the other.

Here's a counter-suggestion. Open up the whole map. Spread out the bases on Conquest more too. Let people try flanking maneuvers above the dam.




Also, note that the bases are so close together in Assault that it makes any kind of wide flanking really risky. The bases should be further apart in both Assault and Conquest.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 25 July 2015 - 08:30 AM.

[Ultimax]

The Citadel isn't a super important location like the Hill on Alpine.

This is a player issue, not a map issue. People want to go to where they are familiar.

[Tarogato]

Alistair Winter, on 25 July 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

Here's a counter-suggestion. Open up the whole map. Spread out the bases on Conquest more too. Let people try flanking maneuvers above the dam.




Also, note that the bases are so close together in Assault that it makes any kind of wide flanking really risky. The bases should be further apart in both Assault and Conquest.

A-effing-men. You want to cross at D5? You're in the open. You want to cross at F5? You're in the open. You want to cross at G5? You're in the open. Open up the area behind the dam so we can cross at B5/C5 and we'll see a LOT more varied play. I mean... a LOT.

[Mister Blastman]

Nathan K, on 25 July 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

Please remove citadel form River City. All changes to the map layout are made moot because of it.

Edit: To fix my poor grammar.

When I woke up today I thought of this same thing.

[Uncle Totty]

Ultimatum X, on 25 July 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

The Citadel isn't a super important location like the Hill on Alpine.

This is a player issue, not a map issue. People want to go to where they are familiar.

Some times the best way to teach some one to live without some thing, is to take it away from them.

[Koniks]

Dear threadstarters: put a meaningful title that tells us about the subject matter inside of it.

[Uncle Totty]

Tarogato, on 25 July 2015 - 08:34 AM, said:

A-effing-men. You want to cross at D5? You're in the open. You want to cross at F5? You're in the open. You want to cross at G5? You're in the open. Open up the area behind the dam so we can cross at B5/C5 and we'll see a LOT more varied play. I mean... a LOT.

F5 is crossed all the time (every time) that is all they know so that is all they do. "New things are risky, stick with what we always do."

[Ultimax]

Nathan K, on 25 July 2015 - 08:37 AM, said:

Some times the best way to teach some one to live without some thing, is to take it away from them.

They will go back to the center anyway.

[Uncle Totty]

Mizeur, on 25 July 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:

Dear threadstarters: put a meaningful title that tells us about the subject matter inside of it.

The fact that you are here shows that it works. "Hey. What is THIS about?"

[zagibu]

It's still a stupid title and I like you less because you made me waste my time.

[Koniks]

Nathan K, on 25 July 2015 - 08:42 AM, said:

The fact that you are here shows that it works. "Hey. What is THIS about?"

1 weird way to generate clicks. Buzzfeed hates this.

No, I only came here to complain and then complain again.

[Uncle Totty]

zagibu, on 25 July 2015 - 08:44 AM, said:

It's still a stupid title and I like you less because you made me waste my time.

*LOL* Funny I do not remember putting a gun to your head and telling you to "click here". The "time wasted" is on you buddy.

Edited by Nathan K, 25 July 2015 - 08:48 AM.

[Mister Blastman]

Ultimatum X, on 25 July 2015 - 08:29 AM, said:

The Citadel isn't a super important location like the Hill on Alpine.

This is a player issue, not a map issue. People want to go to where they are familiar.

People, for the most part, are rats in a maze. They go for the food generator and the safety spot. Citadel is safety. It is a wall that gives them a place to hide where they can't be hurt.

You'd think a soldier would want to kill stuff, but, for the most part, PUG queue folks don't want to die. They'll shoot if they have to but they'd rather not die.

I dreamt of a map that was nothing but a grid of buildings. Tons of criss crossing buildings scattered about like a matrix. And deep underneath the buildings were tunnels. These tunnels are immune to seismic. And they lead to spots along corners of the maps and two thirds across.

Essentially if you went through a tunnel, you could pop out like a boogieman and shoot people camping behind rows of buildings in the back. Hell, some of the tunnels would lead to elevators taking folks to the top of buildings behind the enemy positions (whatever we determine would be the optimal HELP I WANT TO HIDE DO NOT HURT ME spots). So you pop up the elevator then shoot people in the back.

Can you imagine the crying? Nobody would have anywhere to hide. They'd be forced... to brawl... or die.

The second map would be semi-barren with spiked pits and lava flows. Except, the lava would randomly start spewing out of geysers and fill up certain sections. One second you'd be high and dry, the next you'd be swimming in a lake of lava, dying.

The end result would be forced movement. There'd be rocks here and there, but you'd never be able to use permanent cover. Oh, and it'd have one other nasty feature--the anti-nascar grinder. The map would have logic built into it to detect nascar type movement and if it happened, both teams would be immolated, wrecking folks KDR.

Both of these would add tremendously to the game.

The alternative would be respawn and ticket based gameplay like battlefield with multiple outposts all around the map. That would be wonderful. But that ain't happening.

[Uncle Totty]

Mizeur, on 25 July 2015 - 08:46 AM, said:

1 weird way to generate clicks. Buzzfeed hates this.

No, I only came here to complain and then complain again.

"I am just here to be a troll."

I thank you for being honest.

[zagibu]

Nathan K, on 25 July 2015 - 08:47 AM, said:

*LOL* Funny I do not remember putting a gun to your head and telling you to "click here". The "time wasted" is on you buddy.

How would you like it if everyone did this huh? Every ******* thread title being some random words having nothing to do with the topic at all. Wouldn't it be great? Yeah, the forum would be unsusable. Thanks for bringing us one step closer to that goal.

[Mister Blastman]

zagibu, on 25 July 2015 - 08:44 AM, said:

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Look, how about instead of complaining about the thread title, which is pointless, add to the discussion the OP laid out at the start of this thread.

I think you're being frivolous, stuck on a non-important issue.

The issue is Citadel in River City. So let's all grab some jackhammers and...



Tear down the wall!

[Uncle Totty]

zagibu, on 25 July 2015 - 09:07 AM, said:

How would you like it if everyone did this huh? Every ******* thread title being some random words having nothing to do with the topic at all. Wouldn't it be great? Yeah, the forum would be unsusable. Thanks for bringing us one step closer to that goal.

The title has all it needs to do what I am pointing out as only PGI can do some thing about it.

Again, entering here is all up to you.

[GeistHrafn]

Nathan K, on 25 July 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

The title has all it needs to do what I am pointing out as only PGI can do some thing about it.

Again, entering here is all up to you.

Except PGI probably won't pay any attention to this, because it's not in Feature Suggestions, or Patch Feedback...

Edited by Rhazien, 25 July 2015 - 09:30 AM.