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[McMurl]

So the weapons in this game havent changed in a very long time, the newest weapons being the clan UACs and LBX. Kinda getting boring tbh. Also, we dont have a good 3 ton energy weapon to fill tonnage.

Im thinking we should add Light PPCs.

**PLEASE NOTE** ive done the research, i know it comes out in 3067. i get it.

Now understandably this weapon comes out waaaay in the future, but this weapon would be the perfect addition to the game. it fills many voids. 3 tons, which is more beneficial for IS as the tonnage disparity between medium and large lasers is much larger then clan, its shorter range alpha damage, so its useful there, plus, it would be better suited for light mechs as well.

Also, the Draconis Combine are the creators of said weapon.

So heres my proposition. Lets have a Battle for Luthien as the end point for Phase 2 or 3 or what ever we are on now. If the IS wins, clan mechs will not be able to use this weapon at all or for a set number of months, if the Clans win, they 'capture' the weapon and can use it on clan mechs.

So there is a point to the fighting, unlike tukayyid, which was a great experiment, helped make CW much better, dispite the wait queues. It also adds a new weapon to fuss about with and helps fill some weapon voids.

Like i said before, i understand the lore behind this weapon, when it comes out, who made it, blah blah blah.

Ive included a Poll to help get a more concrete position from the community.

Note: the following was added after my original idea about light PPCs.

Another weapon we could add, which would be more viable lore wise are Light Gauss Rifles. Created by the Free Worlds League in 3056, it would fill similar voids that the light PPC would fill as well. This might be a bit more appropriate as the current CW stands, the clans are attacking the FWL at the moment. a similar idea, fight to gain or keep the light gauss rifle for or from the clans.

Other options could be MRMs (3058) Arrow IV (before current timeline (could also replace arty mods) long tom (before current timeline) etc.

TL;DR: Have the Battle of Luthien to end the current CW phase, where the IS are defending the plans for Light PPCs from the clan invaders. Adversely, have a Battle of Marik or Atreus for the Light Gauss Rifle.

http://www.sarna.net...ght_Gauss_Rifle
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Light_PPC

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Long_Tom_Cannon
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Arrow_IV_Artillery
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/MRM-10

Edited by grievoussmaug, 23 July 2015 - 05:21 AM.

[Sirius Drake]

The concept of haveing an event about xyzstuff thats from that on exclusive (for a few month! not for ever!) to one side is interessting.
I support that part of the idea 100%.

About the new weapons:
Nice idea as well. Yes, i know the lore, but meh.....want more new shiny stuff!

[Koshirou]

This event would be completely pointless. The Clans are guaranteed to win since all merc units who would like to be able to use the weapon(s) on all their Mechs would want the Clan side to win, and will consequently fight on that side.

[Black Ivan]

Something like this. CW actually is to easy to manipulate the outcome with few very big units setting the pace.

[McMurl]

not true. look at tukkayid. MS was on the side of the clans, and yet the outcome was pretty even, with clans just squeaking ahead.

[Xeraphale]

As a lore purist I would like to see weapons and mechs added at the appropriate time. Not that its stopped PGI before, but still.

[Rushin Roulette]

Yes, Im all for this suggestion. However, dont add the Clan only light PPC, but add the IS only RAC instead.

How is that for a suggestion?

[sycocys]

Voted yes just because I'd like to see more weapon options in the game. A tourney over when they get released or whatever is kind of a moot point though because as it was pointed out it'd get rigged by the merc units and players that have mechs on both sides.

Unless maybe the time frame was short (2 weeks/ a patch), where players wouldn't be so inclined to have that advantage held over them for extended periods of time. Then you could probably just rig it up to have monthly/bi-monthly tourneys for weapons, gear, new c-bill variants and such. It would be a good way to generate at least some amount of interest over little additions to the game.

[Thumper3]

See? This is why I have sympathy for the developers when everyone is bitching at them. LOL

Get CW done, implement this, implement that, change this, do that, oh, we want shiny new weapons.......this isn't a company with hundreds of thousands of programers sitting at consoles waiting to twitch at our every whim.

No, we don't need new weapons right now. What we need is an economy in CW and new modes and maps to freshen it up and keep less hardcore people interested. They do not need to spend money coding new weapons and tables, testing, balancing, and dealing with them.

Stop asking for gravy when the meat is still cold in the oven!

[MischiefSC]

No. PGI already weaponized boredom in the form of ghost drops, we don't need unbalanced tech creep. More of it I mean.

[Reno Blade]

I agree with Thumper here.

I'd say, If we want CW to be meaningfull, add limited salvage that give you equipment that can not be bought.

Add factories that can produce limited amounts of some things like ammo for limited weapons.
Holding a planet with such factories would be meaningful and getting a attack corridor to these key planets too.

[Uklistan]

Thumper3, on 23 July 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

See? This is why I have sympathy for the developers when everyone is bitching at them. LOL

Get CW done, implement this, implement that, change this, do that, oh, we want shiny new weapons.......this isn't a company with hundreds of thousands of programers sitting at consoles waiting to twitch at our every whim.

No, we don't need new weapons right now. What we need is an economy in CW and new modes and maps to freshen it up and keep less hardcore people interested. They do not need to spend money coding new weapons and tables, testing, balancing, and dealing with them.

Stop asking for gravy when the meat is still cold in the oven!

But Thumper, I WANT a new weapon system or 2 to keep me interested. However its far more then that, balance. Clans have UAC 2-20 IS doesn't (only UAC5's), clans have SSRM4/6 - IS doesn't. The point is simple, we need new weapons - even if their only IS versions of the current clan weapons OR a new IS only weapon.

[IIIuminaughty]

this should be under general section.

Star league tech is needed to balance out the clans! Xpulses racs man gonna be great if those come out.

and **** the lore if we go by the lore the game will no longer running. yall care waaaay to much by the lore when you are the ones that are supposed to be changing it...

Edited by IIIuminaughty, 23 July 2015 - 10:09 AM.

[TWIAFU]

When we move far enough forward in the timeline to allow for new weapons, 3056-3058, yes.

[Davegt27]

heck no you cant have any special weapons



now you want a speed boost sure that would be fine

[MechB Kotare]

I'd rather see Long Toms, Arrows, X Pulse large, Heavy Beam Lasers...

Oh and HEAVY GAUSS! F Light Gauss because reasons!

Also Heavy Ultra AutoERPPC XL Engine lasers!

Edited by MechB Kotare, 23 July 2015 - 11:29 AM.

[Thumper3]

Grothlamarath, on 23 July 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:

But Thumper, I WANT a new weapon system or 2 to keep me interested. However its far more then that, balance. Clans have UAC 2-20 IS doesn't (only UAC5's), clans have SSRM4/6 - IS doesn't. The point is simple, we need new weapons - even if their only IS versions of the current clan weapons OR a new IS only weapon.

I'll give you a new weapons system, come here you!! LOL

I agree with your points, but I still think it's a timing issue. We can't have everything we want, we have to pick........and right now I pick CW modes and economy.

For everyone that wants new weapons, I recommend you head right over and pre-order the IIc mechs, and then buy a big batch of PT, and why not pick up some more cockpit items and patterns.

My point is, you want more, and more and more.........things cost money, give PGI more and more and we will get more and more.

[Depressing-Fire]

Slug munitions for Clan LB-X/AC (not including LB-X 2/AC) cut the range in half and don't worry about a toggle between cluster and solid, make it a choice on loadout. The Clan Autocannon changes are a welcome adjustment though.

[pwnface]

I don't think this is a good idea, besides we already had a battle for Luthien in case you forgot...



sorry for shameless self promotion of unit.

Edited by pwnface, 28 July 2015 - 04:52 PM.

[Jarl Dane]

pwnface, on 28 July 2015 - 04:51 PM, said:

I don't think this is a good idea, besides we already had a battle for Luthien in case you forgot...



sorry for shameless self promotion of unit.

It looks like you're tea-bagging CSJ.