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#21 Angry Kylo Ren

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 09:29 AM

My unit's response was overwhelmingly in the favour of a 4v4 league, but against the IS-favoured format as the majority do not own IS mechs (by choice).

Therefore won't be able to commit a team from the unit.

Guess I'll be playing for someone as a free agent instead.

#22 old man odin

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 01:39 PM

View PostCashel, on 03 August 2015 - 07:11 AM, said:

I think that you would want to have the requirement that a team should be comprised of that unit though - otherwise what's to stop someone cherry picking the best guys of whatever units? I understand and support the idea of allowing some non-unit guys if it's more than 4 ... but getting 4 guys together (with obviously having substitute if real life gets in the way) in your unit should be achievable. If that involves some recruiting, well, ok.


Why are we going to limit peoples CW for a tournament that gains nothing from having everyone in a single unit? As we've seen in every other tournament in game tags doesn't stop cherry picking, it makes policing the tournament even harder and screws over people like the Isengrim who are split tags due to membership in -MS-.

Besides, not every unit invites every person who installed the game. Even if ISEN weren't split between tags they'd still only have 4 or 5 people. We want as many teams in here as possible. Let's not pointlessly bar some entereing.

View PostBastardinc, on 03 August 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

Not interested as I am sick of predominant competitions that restrict the use of clan mechs.....



View Postmakbeer, on 03 August 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:

My unit's response was overwhelmingly in the favour of a 4v4 league, but against the IS-favoured format as the majority do not own IS mechs (by choice).

Therefore won't be able to commit a team from the unit.

Guess I'll be playing for someone as a free agent instead.


+1, not happy about arbitarily limiting clan mechs but obviously will still be in it. Even without the limit we are going to see hordes of TDRs and FS9s. These aren't the days of the first Clan wave where they absoloutely dominate IS mechs, lets use some rules will actually encourage variety.

#23 Jay Z

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 04:58 PM

Check updated original post for exciting announcement. :)

#24 old man odin

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 05:33 PM

View PostJay Z, on 03 August 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

Check updated original post for exciting announcement. :)



HYPE IS REAL FOR MIDWAY

#25 Stonefalcon

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 07:46 PM

Slap me if I'm blind but I didn't see a limitation on who can compete. Last HPL I had a lot of my guys complain they couldn't compete cause their ping was lower than the 215 requirement. Is there still this limitation in place?

Edit: Yep I'm blind, I see the timezone restriction.

Edited by Stonefalcon, 03 August 2015 - 08:00 PM.


#26 Jay Z

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 07:59 PM

From the FAQ

Q- I don't live in the Asia Pacific Area can i still play?
A- If you can play in the prime time for GMT +7 to GMT +11 time zones you are welcome to join.

Edited by Jay Z, 03 August 2015 - 07:59 PM.


#27 Liveish

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 08:23 PM

There is also up to 12 Clan Mechs you can use over the 5 Match's ( how you see fit)

All the rules are open for discussion/feedback, If you want to join get your team leader to sign up and there is a post for feedback on the site.

#28 mr bear

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 09:37 PM

live1991,
Thanks for organizing this.
I've registered on the forums and should have a team ready to go for the league.

#29 Kageru Ikazuchi

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 09:47 PM

live1991 ... thanks for setting this up.

If you need any assistance with league admin, etc. let me know (but it seems like you got you stuff pretty well together).

And for those griping about "restrictions on clan 'mechs", 12 out of 20 is the most generous of any league I know of (other than RHOD when it was no restrictions).

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 10:09 PM

View PostKageru Ikazuchi, on 03 August 2015 - 09:47 PM, said:


And for those griping about "restrictions on clan 'mechs", 12 out of 20 is the most generous of any league I know of (other than RHOD when it was no restrictions).


Those griping (including me) have reason to do so as the majority of competitions held by PGI and gamers revolve around so called IS mechs. Also will point out that the gripes were made on the OP not the addition of the second competition.

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 11:57 PM

Great work both Jay Z and Live... and ups for Jay to secede his plans in light of the battle of midway.
ARMD is already keen to be part of this, and Live if you need any help, drop me a line on TS or on the ARMD forums.

Jay, on the subject of game streaming I noted your plans for not streaming 228 games in your comp, and agree with the idea of having a 3rd party streaming games. On that I would be keen on catching up with you to use the ARMD twitch account to help out with streaming duties if need be.

Finally, the idea of 12/20 clan mechs per round I think is excellent. I think you can safely say that rule negates the game 'revolving' around IS or Clan...

#32 Angry Kylo Ren

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 12:21 AM

It's not griping. It's just wising up to the fact that needing to 'comp' balance IS and Clan mechs is antiquated thinking that perpetuates the myth that there's this imbalance between clan and IS mechs. That thinking still lingers on from a time when clan mechs first launched and were hilariously overpowered. Since then tons has changed and the game is more balanced than ever.

#33 Kageru Ikazuchi

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 01:23 AM

View Postmakbeer, on 04 August 2015 - 12:21 AM, said:

... It's just wising up to the fact that needing to 'comp' balance IS and Clan mechs is antiquated thinking that perpetuates the myth that there's this imbalance between clan and IS mechs ...

We're going to disagree.

In my discussions with teams that play both IS and Clan 'mechs in CW, the consensus is pretty wide, that Clan 'mechs are still OP, even compared to the perfectly built super-quirked 'mechs.

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Since then tons has changed and the game is more balanced than ever.

I do agree with this ^ statement. But it's not good enough so that, given the choice, a smart comp team wouldn't simply bring all the TBRs, HBRs, and SCRs allowed by the rules (and then start building the rest of their decks).

#34 Kamikaze Viking

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Posted 04 August 2015 - 02:55 AM

ok signed up to the website (omg soo many different league websites have I signed up trying to be a competitive player in this game)

Taking a look over the rules it looks good.
I'll tell the lads we got 3 ish weeks to solidify our squad and pick up any extras needed in case someone cant show up.

#35 Liveish

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 05:13 AM

Two team have signed up, Looks like we might have 12 teams plus.

Don't forget feedback on the rules ends on the 10th.

http://www.battlefor...viewtopic.php?3

Edited by live1991, 06 August 2015 - 05:22 AM.


#36 Angry Kylo Ren

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 10:54 AM

I'm signed up

#37 mr bear

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 04:18 PM

live1991, how the heck do I register a team? Clicked all over, but can't find the right link...

#38 Liveish

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 05:35 PM

Post it up on here,

http://battleformidw...viewtopic.php?1

Edit, have now added some menus too :)

Edited by live1991, 06 August 2015 - 06:15 PM.


#39 Better Call Saul

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 07:10 AM

View Postmr bear, on 06 August 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:

live1991, how the heck do I register a team? Clicked all over, but can't find the right link...


Just use the template thing and reply to the thread..

#40 Liveish

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Posted 09 August 2015 - 02:48 PM

Hey Guys,

Feedback on the rules ends today, If you want to get something added or changed please advise.





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