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[Hit the Deck]

...that we already have in-game?

I know that King Crab, Highlander, and yet to be released Black Knight are part of the ComGuard's stable. What else beside them? Kintaro and Crab? I want to paint them white, put the awesome tripod ComStar warhorn, and kill some Clanners (actually any red dorito)!

Edited by Hit the Deck, 03 August 2015 - 04:58 AM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

High tech star league mechs secretly held by the evil organization that deliberately suppresses technological advancement in the IS through assassination and genocide.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Hit the Deck, on 03 August 2015 - 04:56 AM, said:

...that we already have in-game?

I know that King Crab, Highlander, and yet to be released Black Knight are part of the ComGuard's stable. What else beside them? Kintaro and Crab? I want to paint them white, put the awesome tripod ComStar warhorn, and kill some Clanners (actually any red dorito)!

I would have thought that if it was old and Inner Sphere, the Star League would have fielded it and therefore the Com Guards have some stockpile of it. Something like the Raven wasn't originally Star League so I don't think Comstar bought them or ran them. I also don't think they had Cataphracts.

I took a quick look on Sarna and couldn't find exactly what they were known to have. I'm sure they probably ran Orions and Atlas's though too (again thinking back to Star League).

Maybe someone knows of a good list somewhere that can be referenced.

[martian]

Hit the Deck, on 03 August 2015 - 04:56 AM, said:

...that we already have in-game?

I know that King Crab, Highlander, and yet to be released Black Knight are part of the ComGuard's stable. What else beside them? Kintaro and Crab? I want to paint them white, put the awesome tripod ComStar warhorn, and kill some Clanners (actually any red dorito)!

Actually, only a small number of Mechs currently present in MWO can be considered to be a "ComStar 'Mech".

CRB-27 Crab
BL-6-KNT/BL-6b-KNT Black Knight
KTO-19 Kintaro
BLR-2C BattleMaster
KGC-000 King Crab
HGN-732 Highlander

[Throat Punch]

List of Comstar Mechs (per MUL)

**Fixed list...didn't realize i had pasted Sarna's incorrect info until after i posted. Link goes to Master Unit List.

Edited by Mors Draco, 03 August 2015 - 05:14 AM.

[Hit the Deck]

martian, on 03 August 2015 - 05:08 AM, said:

Actually, only a small number of Mechs currently present in MWO can be considered to be a "ComStar 'Mech".

CRB-27 Crab
BL-6-KNT/BL-6b-KNT Black Knight
KTO-19 Kintaro
BLR-2C BattleMaster
KGC-000 King Crab
HGN-732 Highlander

Ah, so they have to be the specific variants. Thanks!

[Paigan]

I thought I read somewhere in the Stackpole Clans Trilogy that two Griffins stand beside some kind of Comstar throne or something.
Been >15 years or so. Not exactely sure.

[Escef]

Paigan, on 03 August 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

I thought I read somewhere in the Stackpole Clans Trilogy that two Griffins stand beside some kind of Comstar throne or something.
Been >15 years or so. Not exactely sure.

The Griffins traditionally stand watch over the throne of the Lyran Commonwealth, on Tharkad.

[Lily from animove]

Isn't it, that comstar mechs mostly have a lot upgraded stuff or "lostech"? While DHS were quite rare and superexpensive comstar may have hoarded some of those and installed in most of their mechs. as well as FF/ES upgrades would be more common amongst the comstar mechs than the regular houses forces would have?

Edited by Lily from animove, 03 August 2015 - 05:32 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

martian, on 03 August 2015 - 05:08 AM, said:

Actually, only a small number of Mechs currently present in MWO can be considered to be a "ComStar 'Mech".

CRB-27 Crab
BL-6-KNT/BL-6b-KNT Black Knight
KTO-19 Kintaro
BLR-2C BattleMaster
KGC-000 King Crab
HGN-732 Highlander

The Battlemaster -2C isn't a Comstar mech so to speak. Just that the ComGuard were sitting on a Stockpile of them.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 03 August 2015 - 05:51 AM.

[martian]

Hit the Deck, on 03 August 2015 - 05:11 AM, said:

Ah, so they have to be the specific variants. Thanks!

My reasoning was that a "ComStar 'Mech" should be really typical or exclusive for ComStar. ComStar 'Mechs are often originally SLDF 'Mechs that have been stored for centuries. Therefore, such 'Mechs have kept their advanced technologies such as ES, FF, DHS, etc, while the rest of the Inner Sphere had to downgrade their BattleMechs and factories during the Succession Wars.

For example: The ComStar has kept the KGC-000 with CASE, while the advanced Royal KGC-000b left with Kerensky and the rest of the Inner Sphere had to downgrade to KGC-0000 without CASE.
So we can say that KGC-000 is the "ComStar 'Mech", while KGC-0000 is relatively common in the Inner Sphere.

[Escef]

Lily from animove, on 03 August 2015 - 05:21 AM, said:

Isn't it, that comstar mechs mostly have a lot upgraded stuff or "lostech"? While DHS were quite rare and superexpensive comstar may have haoded some of those and installed in most of their mechs. as well as FF/ES upgrades woul be more common amongst the comstar mechs than the regular houses forces would have?

Comstar stockpiled a lot of mechs and equipment from just before the fall of the Star League. So they had a bunch of mechs with ferro armor, endo steel, double heat sinks, ER weapons, LBX cannons, Artemis fire control, Streaks, UACs, etc. By the end of the 3rd Succession War/beginning of the 4th Succession War it was apparent that Comstar could not keep the Inner Sphere in the dark ages perpetually as new mech designs (Merlin, Hatchetman, Raven, Cataphract, Wolfhound) were coming out, the great houses were reverse/re-engineering old League tech (experimental double heat sinks were being tested as early as 3020), straight up new tech was being fielded (triple strength myomer),and the Helm Memory Core (a recovered memory core from an old League computer) was starting to make the rounds.

[martian]

Joseph Mallan, on 03 August 2015 - 05:22 AM, said:

The Battlemaster -2C isn't a Comstar mech so to speak. Just that the ComGuard were sitting on a Stockpile of the.

Sorry, the rest of your sentence is missing.

Anyway, it's my impression that BLR-2C was ComStar's secret attempt to mimic lost Royal BattleMasters, while using the standard BLR-1G as its basis. The resulting BLR-2C looks like mix of BLR-1G, BLR-1Gb and BLR-1Gc.

Isn't it a nice irony? The rest of the Inner Sphere is nuking its advanced factories during ComStar-instigated Succession Wars, while in secret ComStar is upgrading its stockpiled BattleMechs towards the higher standard - using exactly those technologies that the Inner Sphere is losing.

Yeah, ComStar.

[Joseph Mallan]

This rare Star League era command version of the BattleMaster mounted a Command Console and was equipped with Double Heat Sinks in place of the machine guns. House Kurita received at least one such vehicle from ComStar in full working condition, unmodified and without downgrades, and it served as Theodore Kurita's command vehicle Though the C could stand for ComStar I would wager it was a Designation for Command variant.

[Nathan Foxbane]

If the Star League made it and some models stayed behind at the Exodus, then Comstar had it. While they did not have the latest 'Mechs like the Wolfhound, Axman, Hatamoto-Chi, or Raven they still had quite the impressive variety of 'Mechs and equipment. Would not be surprised to see Merlins in Comguard ranks, as Comstar made a habit of adopting small mercenary units and fixing their 'Mechs up and the Merlin debuted in 3010. Comstar did lack SLDF Royal variants as all of those left with Kerensky in the Exodus.

[Paigan]

Escef, on 03 August 2015 - 05:18 AM, said:

The Griffins traditionally stand watch over the throne of the Lyran Commonwealth, on Tharkad.

Ah, damn.
Thanks for rectifying

[Throat Punch]

And lets not forget the Wobbies were secretly stockpiling and designing 'mech on Terra right under the noses of ComStar. We realllllllllly need ComStar and Word of Blake factions.

[Joseph Mallan]

Mors Draco, on 03 August 2015 - 05:58 AM, said:

And lets not forget the Wobbies were secretly stockpiling and designing 'mech on Terra right under the noses of ComStar. We realllllllllly need ComStar and Word of Blake factions.

A worse bad guy could not be created for this Universe I think.

[martian]

Joseph Mallan, on 03 August 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

This rare Star League era command version of the BattleMaster mounted a Command Console and was equipped with Double Heat Sinks in place of the machine guns. House Kurita received at least one such vehicle from ComStar in full working condition, unmodified and without downgrades, and it served as Theodore Kurita's command vehicle Though the C could stand for ComStar I would wager it was a Designation for Command variant.

Actually, that's not true.
BLR-2C can't be a Star League 'Mech, simply because when it was designed, the Star League was about one and half century dead by then. And nobody else in the Inner Sphere than ComStar had access to advanced electronics such as Beagle Active Probe (when BLR-2C entered service).

[Throat Punch]

Joseph Mallan, on 03 August 2015 - 06:00 AM, said:

A worse bad guy could not be created for this Universe I think.

Blessed Blake!