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[SCHLIMMER BESTIMMER XXX]

The idea behind treating the ATLAS-DDC as it is treated as a mech ingame coud make sense
i.e. has ecm but for that advantage only
!1x Weapon module slot! 1x Mech Module slot and 1x unlockable dual module slot.


The problem is, treating a mech with a ecm like this, is out of date and not the case
for the countless other ecm mechs.
The ATLAS-DDC is kinda crippled for no justifiable reason and imo this disadvantage
shoud be removed.ECM is not a huge advantage anymore and kinda common.
Looking at the other IS mechs with ecm and how they are treated
tells me that i am right.
When you decide to go another way why still pointing in the old direction????

[Joseph Mallan]

The only reason I don't use my D-DC is it doesn't get the 30% C-bill bonus that my S does.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

DDC is fine bro.

[Heart of Storm]

D-DC isnt a bad Atlas at all, its still arguably the best in fact... the problem the D-DC suffers is that the Atlas as a Mech just doesnt work so great in the current Meta.. massive pinpoint alphas vs large easily targeted torsos means you lose most of your firepower before you can begin to worry about heat or ammo.

I remember when the D-DC was King of this game...

[Joseph Mallan]

Heart of Storm, on 04 August 2015 - 05:10 AM, said:

D-DC isnt a bad Atlas at all, its still arguably the best in fact... the problem the D-DC suffers is that the Atlas as a Mech just doesnt work so great in the current Meta.. massive pinpoint alphas vs large easily targeted torsos means you lose most of your firepower before you can begin to worry about heat or ammo.

I remember when the D-DC was King of this game...

NO. It was a good Mech but it was Never King.

[PurpleNinja]

DD-C is perfectly fie from a light point of view.
Huge, slow and can turn around as fast as an oil tanker.

[Lugh]

Joseph Mallan, on 04 August 2015 - 05:11 AM, said:

NO. It was a good Mech but it was Never King.

Catapult k2 was king for a time.

Then the Phracts were king.

[Joseph Mallan]

Lugh, on 04 August 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Catapult k2 was king for a time.

Then the Phracts were king.

They weren't king while I was an Archer in a (F)Atlas... Unless you wanna say I was a King slayer!

[SgtMagor]

D-DC is a good mech, add BAP, radar dep, extended sensor, weapon cool down modules, that should do the trick!

[Paigan]

Can someone translate what the OP is saying?
I don't want to be rude, I just can't figure it out, no matter how often I read it... o_0

[Sarlic]

PurpleNinja, on 04 August 2015 - 05:11 AM, said:

DD-C is perfectly fie from a light point of view.
Huge, slow and can turn around as fast as an oil tanker.

I laughed... I should not have.. But i laughed.

Funny thing PGI removed the extra module slot from th D-DC in the past because.. here it comes.. had ECM. (Not his firepower as far i can recall).

ECM was much more a rarity back then.

[Coralld]

All Atlases/Atli need armor and structure quirks sense they were suppose to be tanky as hell.

[Hotthedd]

Moar power creep plox

[Joseph Mallan]

Coralld, on 04 August 2015 - 05:47 AM, said:

All Atlases/Atli need armor and structure quirks sense they were suppose to be tanky as hell.

Atlases need better pilots not buffs.

[Lily from animove]

PurpleNinja, on 04 August 2015 - 05:11 AM, said:

DD-C is perfectly fie from a light point of view.
Huge, slow and can turn around as fast as an oil tanker.

mine has 2 big LBX and some misiles, that woudl love to mate with your little light.

[Coralld]

Joseph Mallan, on 04 August 2015 - 06:07 AM, said:

Atlases need better pilots not buffs.

I never said they were bad, nore am I bad with them. But I guess your talking in general terms, its just that in the way things are they really do not have a whole lot going for them compared to other options, the Zeus is just as tanky if not more so than an Atlas, and if they were to get some kind of buff, in most likely the form of quirks, it would be armor and structure.

[Mechteric]

DDC's problems have nothing to do with modules.


The problem with all Atlases are that they are freaking huge, easy to take out, and don't have the kind of hardpoints you need for that to matter. I guess what I'm saying is that if it has hardpoints more like a King Crab or Dire Wolf, it would make up for its phsyical size.


To help make it better, IMO, all (non-hero) Atlases need extra energy hardpoints, preferably on the arms. Maybe even an Atlas that can mount a ballistic on each torso would also do the trick. Also, some decent armor quirks on all limbs would help its tankiness.

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 04 August 2015 - 06:51 AM.

[Lexx]

Paigan, on 04 August 2015 - 05:36 AM, said:

Can someone translate what the OP is saying?
I don't want to be rude, I just can't figure it out, no matter how often I read it... o_0

I think he said something like "For balance corrule ignore".

I feel the DDC has been left behind. It's another one of those mechs that was considered very good when the quirks were handed out, so it didn't get any love. It's not "meta" anymore, no Atlas is. ECM mechs already have less weapon hardpoints and sometimes less module slots. They come "pre nerfed" and then to have given them lesser quirks also was a double whammy.

However, I think balance threads are pointless right now. There is a major rebalance in the works and it's coming soon. I think we should see what that actually does before we make a bunch of balance suggestion threads. (PGI rarely pays attention to these anyways).

[Brizna]

DDC is still a solid mech but certainly not a top one any more so I have to agree with OP that it really doesn't make any sense that it has so few module slots.

[Joseph Mallan]

Coralld, on 04 August 2015 - 06:46 AM, said:

I never said they were bad, nore am I bad with them. But I guess your talking in general terms, its just that in the way things are they really do not have a whole lot going for them compared to other options, the Zeus is just as tanky if not more so than an Atlas, and if they were to get some kind of buff, in most likely the form of quirks, it would be armor and structure.

Or maybe we need to get rid of Buffs and let the Mechs work as intended or fail at the hands of the player.