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[Dino Might]

Monkey Lover, on 04 August 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

Whats the point of a locust if firestarter does everything better

Whats the point of a summoner when timber does it better
Whats the point of IS mechs when clan does it better lol

FS9 does not do scouting, nor does it do backstabbing as well as the Locust. While it has more firepower and way more endurance, the Locust is easier to sneak around in and can be especially deadly one on one (essentially never allowing an assault to see it while it picks it apart).

[Deathlike]

1453 R, on 04 August 2015 - 03:06 PM, said:

Most of the crap people suggest for 'fixing' the Mist Lynx doesn't actually fix the Mist Lynx.

Remove its hardwired CAP, give it an extra 10% speed boost quirk, give it torso energy?

Guess what - the Cheetah is still 100% superior to the Lynx in all ways and forms. More weapons, better weapon/ECM placement, still faster, still better pod space...all of those fixes result in a 'Mech which is simply a bit less crushingly inferior to the Cheetah without actually giving it a role the Cheetah doesn't handily outdo it in.

Better idea - give the Mist Lynx some hardcore bonuses to things like its hardwired probe. Double the ECCM range for the Lynx, double the TIG bonus. Give the Lynx something like four 'Mech module slots. Give it a role, albeit a very narrow one, as the superior reconnaisance/IW 'Mech, when Paul gets around to rebuilding IW the way he's promised to do.

Nothing you can do to the Lynx will ever make it anything but an embarrassment as a combat light now that the Arctic Cheetah's here. Make it an EW platform instead and at least it has a job the Cheetah can't do, even if that job is narrow and generally not desired by many.

I think it's been suggested to make the MLX more useful on the CAP front, but that isn't happening... because PGI™.

Buffing it so that it isn't a "completely worthless" Light (slightly better than the Spider-5V) would be nice. It will never surpass the Arctic Cheater, but at the very least it shouldn't be the Clan Light that is 50 to 66% as effective as a ACH. It should be closer to 75 to 80% as it should be.

El Bandito, on 04 August 2015 - 04:26 PM, said:

Mlynx is now a legit ride for Hipsters!

Oh noes....

[bad arcade kitty]

>Whats the point of a summoner when timber does it better

summoner is faster (speed quirk) and better jumps

also adding a mech/weapon module slot to mlx would be nice too on top of other buffs

and dont forget the cap in the head, adder got their flamer made removable, why lynx should still suffer

[DarkMetalBlade]

The Cheetah was meant to replace the Mist Lynx, after all, as per its Sarna page.

I've already sold the Mist Lynxes that I had that wasn't the invasion variant, & as soon as I saw the Arctic Cheetah come up in Wave Three, I knew the MLX's days are numbered.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

So that you can bring a Hellbi and two Timbers for a drop!

I'm sure there are maybe one or two other combos that could fit, but that's what came to mind.

[spectralthundr]

I believe it's pretty normal that newer mechs down the time line are going to make some older models obsolete. Just take the Jenner IiC for example. I don't think we'll see many IS jenners out there once it drops.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

spectralthundr, on 04 August 2015 - 05:42 PM, said:

I don't think we'll see many other lights out there once it drops.

FTFY.

[Deathlike]

spectralthundr, on 04 August 2015 - 05:42 PM, said:

I believe it's pretty normal that newer mechs down the time line are going to make some older models obsolete. Just take the Jenner IiC for example. I don't think we'll see many IS jenners out there once it drops.

While true, but the Jenner has been the inferior mech to the Firestarter since quirks were added, so it doesn't help matters in reality.

It's to a point where it needs a buff anyways because of the IIC's release. Hunchbacks are various usable quirks... the Orion... is still an Onion.. and the Highlander is crazy ultra durable with a certain level of agility while still having "mediocre" JJs.

The Jenners by comparison do actually need a buff as a result.

[ShadowFire]

Introduce a game mode called "Missions" where a scenario dictating ton limits would be drastically imposed. One like, three lances of low ton (20-30?) lights would skirmish another three. Something like rescuing a far afield outpost/convoy where slow mechs would not be an option and heavier, more battle worthy mech were needed else where.

[spectralthundr]

WM Quicksilver, on 04 August 2015 - 05:47 PM, said:

FTFY.

I'll still use my panthers since that's the only light I've been running recently. Didn't hop on the iIC package so I won't be in a Jenner IIC for a long while.

[bad arcade kitty]

spectralthundr, on 04 August 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

I'll still use my panthers since that's the only light I've been running recently. Didn't hop on the iIC package so I won't be in a Jenner IIC for a long while.

well jenny iic isn't a threat to panthers anyway
panthers are competitors with adders and kit foxes, not with cheetahs and jennies iic

[MauttyKoray]

Deathlike, on 04 August 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:

Um... it's a symbol of PGI's balancing woes?

It's great nostalgia.

How about CAP removal? That would be something worth aiming for!

I'm actually in favor of CAP removal now, it would make the MLynx more viable for every other build that isn't using streaks now that the Arctic Cheetah is out.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 04 August 2015 - 07:28 PM.

[Kain Demos]

The mist lynx lets you take 2 x 75 ton 'mechs and a 65 ton 'mech in CW.

That is its only use.

[Light-Speed]

According to Sarna, the Arctic Cheetah was made to replace the Mist Lynx.
So... *shrugs*

[Vargralor]

With both missile slots on one arm, the Lynx is better at grouping SRM damage tightly. I still find it quite useful to be honest. It also tends to put out a lot more damage over the course of the match as the enemy targets the ACH over it when both are in view.

[Mystere]

Just give the Mist Lynx a few Mech module slots.

[Fuggles]

the myst lynx doesnt need the arctic cheetah to be bad, it was bad before it came out and its still bad now, it pretty much can stand on its own as being bad.

make it like the locust, lots of module slots and maneuverability quirks because yeah know, role warfare?

[Kaeb Odellas]

What's the point of any of the other Clan lights, for that matter?

[Moldur]

The better question is: What was ever the point of the myst lynx?

Barely breaks 100, awful mounts, jumps really high. It was only there to fill an extra 25 tons in CW, be a masochist, or play for its 'personality'.

All the other clan lights are sub-par. There's not much to argue. It's not like the Arctic Cheetah made them that way. They were always sub-par.

[lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol]

In the PGI world of Battletech's team death match, it doesn't have a place.

It's the end result of cherry-picking lore, band-aid balancing, and cashgrabs. I'm sure in a few years and half a dozen mech packs later... they'll address these issues. But until then, they'd prefer it if you just ignore it like every other glaring issue that exists, hop in your meta and queue up.