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#21 RoboPatton

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 02:40 PM

Cool, another mech with arms that can't raise. I'm sure it moves like he has invisible glue connecting elbows to the waist.

#22 Trev Firestorm

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 02:42 PM

Forearms look a bit blocky but its hard to tell vs the concept since the concept shows extra weapons mounted, what does bother me is the kneecaps are too skinny in the model vs the concept. Other than that it looks fairly true to the concept.

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 02:48 PM

It has a pencil neck.

100% dead to me.

#24 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 02:54 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 05 August 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:


Read: XL friendly


So are catapults, trebuchet, and dragons, it doesn't make them any less of a death trap and certainly doesn't make them good mechs.

#25 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:03 PM

View PostNarcissistic Martyr, on 05 August 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:


So are catapults, trebuchet, and dragons, it doesn't make them any less of a death trap and certainly doesn't make them good mechs.


Eh I don't think we can really draw any conclusions about that. If anything to me it looks like it has similar torso hitboxes to a Grasshopper, but the CT will conceal the ST a little bit better when twisting away.

As has been said before, this Mech will either have good quirks and be good, or have useless quirks and be completely "meh".

#26 CycKath

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:10 PM

Ignoring the shoulder shields, arms are distressingly thin compared to the concept IMO :(

#27 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:13 PM

View PostDeadMetal89, on 05 August 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

Model never looks as awesome as the concept art.

except for when it looks better: Like the Orion, Arctic Cheetah, etc.

#28 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:16 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 05 August 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:


Read: XL friendly

bad CT and XL friendly not really one and the same. True XL friendly means great arms to protect medium to small STs. Big CT "XL Friendly" just means you're gonna get cored and killed fast anyhow, so might as well grab an XL and pack as much guns as you can for your short time on earth.

Victor USED to be XL friendly. Firestarter, Shadowhawk and Zeus are. Catapults, Jenners and other CT prominent mechs are simply "XL Why Not?!?!?"

#29 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:20 PM

Shockingly the first MWO mech without child bearing hips. Inconceivable!

#30 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:22 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 August 2015 - 03:16 PM, said:

bad CT and XL friendly not really one and the same. True XL friendly means great arms to protect medium to small STs. Big CT "XL Friendly" just means you're gonna get cored and killed fast anyhow, so might as well grab an XL and pack as much guns as you can for your short time on earth.

Victor USED to be XL friendly. Firestarter, Shadowhawk and Zeus are. Catapults, Jenners and other CT prominent mechs are simply "XL Why Not?!?!?"


Sure but I don't think we have a Catapult/Dragon/Jenner case here. I'm guessing it won't be terrible.

#31 Revis Volek

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:35 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 August 2015 - 03:20 PM, said:

Shockingly the first MWO mech without child bearing hips. Inconceivable!



I was gonna say when did we stop making fat bottom girls?

Maybe its just me...or the no color on the model but the Cockpit looks too big...kinda like what happened to the enforcer. :(

#32 Trev Firestorm

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:07 PM

View PostDarthRevis, on 05 August 2015 - 03:35 PM, said:



I was gonna say when did we stop making fat bottom girls?

Maybe its just me...or the no color on the model but the Cockpit looks too big...kinda like what happened to the enforcer. :(

I think its the lack of chin giving that effect on the downwards shot, looking at cockpit glass area they seem about right

#33 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:12 PM

View PostDarthRevis, on 05 August 2015 - 03:35 PM, said:



I was gonna say when did we stop making fat bottom girls?

Maybe its just me...or the no color on the model but the Cockpit looks too big...kinda like what happened to the enforcer. :(

yeah, thought the same thing. The style works better still than the Enforcer, but it does look too large and pronounced, possibly made more so by the stiffness of the pose, but the head looks oversized, the arms too square, and the legs/hips too narrow.

Still, hard to say until we see a motion capture. But I am not feeling sad for skipping it.... crap. wait. I didn't skip it.

Sigh. Another heavy I will probably never use. Wonderful. Wish they'd fix the K2, or offer up a Grand Dragon or the Unseen, so I have a heavy choice beside my CTF-0XP

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:21 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 05 August 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

except for when it looks better: Like the Orion, Arctic Cheetah, etc.

Explain to me what looks better with the model than with the concept art please:Posted Image

#35 Deathlike

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:32 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 05 August 2015 - 02:25 PM, said:


Read it Deathlike.

Read the numbers!

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READ IT!!!


NEVAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

I don't care about the numbers until the mech actually comes out.

The low torso "naval" energy... it's a Gargoyle's best friend.

#36 1453 R

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:41 PM

Hmm...

The head looks great, and the torso modeling is also interesting. Waist-up, excluding arms, it looks great. That said...I would like to know why Piranha's modelers all seem to be 98-pound weaklings with an active hatred of arms larger than a seven year old girl's, because the arms are always super skinny and frail-looking on these things. It dang near completely ruined the Highlander's amazeballs concept art, and when someone clubbed the twiggy suckers into giving Thunderbolts appropriate gorilla punchers, it looked awesome.

The final rigging and such may save it, but my initial thought looking at it was "lift more, brah..."

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:55 PM

View PostDeadMetal89, on 05 August 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

Explain to me what looks better with the model than with the concept art please:Posted Image

because it doesn't look like the pillsbury doughboy?

#38 Funkin Disher

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:59 PM

I reckon he needs a little weight on those endo bones, it's already pretty similar to the grasshopper.

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 05:00 PM

Still needs a big kite shield bolted onto the left arm.
I'd buy it if it did. As-is, just looks like another run of the mill mech with lasers.

I really like the head, but the rest isn't enough to make it worth my while for early adoption.

Edited by Dino Might, 05 August 2015 - 05:31 PM.


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 05:29 PM

I think we will be able to hit the Front CT from greater than 180degree thanks to the head.





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