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[Throat Punch]

Runs naked through thread white knighting S-cats!

But seriously, while it has been shown that i personally may not be the best example of a S-cat,it is oodles of fun to play. You just have to marinate in its S-catty goodness. Yes feel the S-cat flow through you.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mors Draco, on 11 August 2015 - 05:29 AM, said:

Runs naked through thread white knighting S-cats!

But seriously, while it has been shown that i personally may not be the best example of a S-cat,it is oodles of fun to play. You just have to marinate in its S-catty goodness. Yes feel the S-cat flow through you.

all that rolling around in scat, you might end up with Cholera.

Just make sure you are not having your fun at the other 11 teammates expense.

[Throat Punch]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 August 2015 - 05:32 AM, said:

all that rolling around in scat, you might end up with Cholera.

Just make sure you are not having your fun at the other 11 teammates expense.

I have good games, i have bad games, i have great games, but i do my best not to be a raging idiot whilst having my fun, regardless of what my stats portray. ;p

[Bishop Steiner]

Mors Draco, on 11 August 2015 - 05:38 AM, said:

I have good games, i have bad games, i have great games, but i do my best not to be a raging idiot whilst having my fun, regardless of what my stats portray. ;p

It's just sad, that while, like any mech, there are undoubtedly a handful of players who truly make it work well, just like with most ERLL Ravens, etc, the vast majority do not, but because they can cobble together some decent scores, think it's a great mech.

But just like most of those ravens, the ones I have seen have done it by letting their team eat it for them while they skulked in the fringes, hoping the team does enough damage before they die for them to play trash collector.

[STEF_]

Bishop Steiner, on 10 August 2015 - 07:10 PM, said:

my latest attempt to front load, and not roast alive
SHC-PRIME
Doing about as well as the PPCs, for me, but I can't stand sitting back and running the low volume of fire the dual PPCs require. Basically, IMO, it makes one into one of those Sniper Builds Braxton is railing against..... you simply are not a real benefit to the team in the 2x PPC build because of the horrendous RoF, IMO.

I also run an ER PPC and 2x ERMLs....it's decent but can get in heat debt pretty fast, too.

So basically, PGI gave to clanners 4 copies of the best cicada ever

[Throat Punch]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 August 2015 - 05:43 AM, said:

It's just sad, that while, like any mech, there are undoubtedly a handful of players who truly make it work well, just like with most ERLL Ravens, etc, the vast majority do not, but because they can cobble together some decent scores, think it's a great mech.

But just like most of those ravens, the ones I have seen have done it by letting their team eat it for them while they skulked in the fringes, hoping the team does enough damage before they die for them to play trash collector.

Ive come come to the agreement with the majority here that the S-cat isn't the most effective of 'mechs. It is out classed by 'mechs that can do what it does extremely better. However, I play it out of a sense of nostalgia. It was one of my favorite TT 'mech. With that in mind, I play it in MWO, not because its the best, because its fun and I like It. I do my job in game the best I can while using it (and I feel I'm getting better with it, again regardless of my stats) and have as much fun as I can.

[spectralthundr]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 August 2015 - 05:23 AM, said:

Aside from with all the face time with 3ERLL any decent enemy will core you out while you stare, sure. And that I can lay out the same damage almost twice as fast in my 2x ERPPC Nova, thus helping the team a lot more(front loaded match damage means enemy dies faster, and your own team is less likely to experience CLG. Slower fire means a person might have a decent personal score, but usually at the cost of the team, who get to be meat shields while you scoot and shoot, and play vulture)

UAC10 and 2ERML is the most consistently useful build I have found on it, and even then, you better scoot and hope you can jump and hide from the stormcrows that scoot with you and hit a lot harder, while absorbing a heck of a lot more damage.

Yeah if you try and face tank, but that goes for any mech in the game. Playing the shadowcat well is all about positioning, using cover, and moving if it's getting too hot to stick around, which it's mobility allows for easily. If you're shooting at a crow from 700 meters he's not streaking you. It's not happening.

Edited by spectralthundr, 11 August 2015 - 12:37 PM.

[Wronka]

As far as I'm concerned the EBJ, SHC, and ACH are all worth buying... they were the only ones to outlast the massacre my friend and I were trying to lay down here:

Edited by Wronka, 11 August 2015 - 12:44 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

spectralthundr, on 11 August 2015 - 12:36 PM, said:

Yeah if you try and face tank, but that goes for any mech in the game. Playing the shadowcat well is all about positioning, using cover, and moving if it's getting too hot to stick around, which it's mobility allows for easily. If you're shooting at a crow from 700 meters he's not streaking you. It's not happening.

streak crows? What nublevel crows are you playing? I'll hunt down any Scat out there, and I don't run bad cheese builds like a streak crow.

[Mad Strike]

I like his ability to keep speed with light mechs and support them in scout and flank maneuvers. Personally i use the prime stock loadout changing de BAP for an ECM. That way our lights can spend that little tonnage on aditional wub fire while i open the enemy armor with gauss and medium lasers.

[Detriitus]

It's all about what clicks with you. To me this mech is the bomb. My damage average is solidly around 400 for 3 variants and 330 for the forth one. The lack of hardpoints doesn't mean a thing if you enjoy its mobility and hardpoint placements.
This mech is like a ghost: ECM and MASC movement let you walk with the red team and they never notice.


Edit: Just had this match in a brawler setup un-elited. This is not from the double-xp weekend, but with prem time and first win double. Still nice.

Edited by Detriitus, 11 August 2015 - 02:03 PM.

[Karamarka]

Stefka Kerensky, on 06 August 2015 - 02:29 AM, said:

Do not buy it.

You remember MW4, I remember the god meta 12ersl scatter in mw3..... but the PGI's SHC I think is the worse clan medium right now.
Even worse than the ferret, imo

ice Ferret for me is the worst thing ever. Absolute garbage fun and play-ability.

[bad arcade kitty]

5ml or 4mpl ferret doesn't look that bad, at least doesn't look worse than cicada

[spectralthundr]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 August 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:

streak crows? What nublevel crows are you playing? I'll hunt down any Scat out there, and I don't run bad cheese builds like a streak crow.

You say that as though SRM heavy crows aren't popular. My point still stands, positioning is very important to success with a scat. Never mind that during all of these hate the scat threads, there has been plenty of proof via screenshots of success with them. If one doesn't want to play to a mech's strengths that's not on the mech.

Edited by spectralthundr, 11 August 2015 - 04:39 PM.

[Xetelian]

Going to say no.


I have the SHC and it is really really low on hardpoints and podspace.

[Bishop Steiner]

spectralthundr, on 11 August 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

You say that as though SRM heavy crows aren't popular. My point still stands, positioning is very important to success with a scat. Never mind that during all of these hate the scat threads, there has been plenty of proof via screenshots of success with them. If one doesn't want to play to a mech's strengths that's not on the mech.

show me shots of them being used with success in comp matches. To be blunt, getting a mix of good matches in PUGlandia proves nothing. Show me them being used with success in high Elo play, consistently, and I might stop "hating".

But confusing "having fun" and "some good screenies" with being a Good Mech? Nope, not buying.

[Bishop Steiner]

Detriitus, on 11 August 2015 - 01:55 PM, said:

It's all about what clicks with you. To me this mech is the bomb. My damage average is solidly around 400 for 3 variants and 330 for the forth one. The lack of hardpoints doesn't mean a thing if you enjoy its mobility and hardpoint placements.
This mech is like a ghost: ECM and MASC movement let you walk with the red team and they never notice.


Edit: Just had this match in a brawler setup un-elited. This is not from the double-xp weekend, but with prem time and first win double. Still nice.

Oh look...... In a 2x LB5X/2xSRM4 Gargoyle

Whelp, there you have it, proof Mr Gargles is good, and that LB-5X and SRM4s are a comp tier build! Whoot!

Not trying to denigrate your match, but pointing out that an occasional good match? Doesn't actually mean the Robot is good.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 11 August 2015 - 05:18 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

implying gargoyle, the fastest 80 tonner, is bad and lbx with srms are not good in brawling

what's this screenshot was about again

[Bishop Steiner]

bad arcade kitty, on 11 August 2015 - 05:24 PM, said:

implying gargoyle, the fastest 80 tonner, is bad and lbx with srms are not good in brawling

what's this screenshot was about again

Um, because the Gargoyle IS bad, and that armament is bad (in part because no ammo). But I forget you play with a steering wheel.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 August 2015 - 05:25 PM, said:

Um, because the Gargoyle IS bad, and that armament is bad (in part because no ammo). But I forget you play with a steering wheel.

I love my Gargles.

Showing off an 8-kill game shows how bad I am.

*cries on the Executioner*