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[Traumkampfer]

I've noticed that I seem to never be getting rewards for Narc'ing enemies. I'll hit an enemy with a narc, it will show the icon, and my friendlies will rain missiles for days on the enemy, but it wont reward me in any way for having narc'd them. Even the reward screen makes no mention of it.

Anyone else getting this issue?

[Floodinator]

To get the bonus you also need to target him, when he gets hit by other players LRMs

[Traumkampfer]

Floodina0t, on 12 August 2015 - 06:11 PM, said:

To get the bonus you also need to target him, when he gets hit by other players LRMs

I ususally am, it still doesnt get me points O.o

[Spheroid]

Any mech that equips artemis will screw you out of NARC assists. Unfortunately that is 99% of lurm builds.

[Deathlike]

Spheroid, on 12 August 2015 - 06:59 PM, said:

Any mech that equips artemis will screw you out of NARC assists. Unfortunately that is 99% of lurm builds.

Artemis counters the NARC bonus?

Say whaaaaa?

[Spheroid]

^Its true. The only thing that might not be blocked is NARC kill. But I haven't specifically tested this in a controlled environment.

[Master Pain]

why don't you get a narc assist if a teammate has artemis, that makes no sense.

[Greenjulius]

There is no NARC damage assist, only TAG damage assists, right? There is a NARC kill bonus however. The two stack if you do a TAG/NARC kill.

Overall, while NARC is generally more helpful, you're more rewarded for TAG. It really explains why NARC is almost nonexistent outside the group queue.

Both really need to have c-bill bonuses per damage inflicted by missiles. Perhaps reduced for NARC than TAG, but neither exactly produces lots of c-bills, so it's not really farmable.

Spheroid, on 12 August 2015 - 06:59 PM, said:

Any mech that equips artemis will screw you out of NARC assists. Unfortunately that is 99% of lurm builds.

Is this for real? This has got to be a bug. It would definitely explain why I've never gotten a NARC assist bonus.

Edited by Greenjulius, 12 August 2015 - 07:27 PM.

[Deathlike]

Spheroid, on 12 August 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

^Its true. The only thing that might not be blocked is NARC kill. But I haven't specifically tested this in a controlled environment.

I'd like some proof.

Still, that's terrible if true either way.

[Spheroid]

@Deathlike. Here is a match I just had. Just screwing around mind you not serious play.

At least three mechs on my team had lrms. Probably ALRM15s on the Timberwolves and maybe something on the Warhawk or Dire. I can't tell you the exact make up of my team because I got that weird rejoin bug that removes the mech roster info.

That Misery is visible solely because of me. I was all over the D6/E6 area and after that I went left towards the ring and NARCed some more mechs. Missiles were fired and I can only hope at least one hit something. Yet my match score shows no NARC rewards. Zero.

Edited by Spheroid, 12 August 2015 - 08:38 PM.

[RedDevil]

Having more/better NARC rewards would benefit this game in so many ways.....

[Cyborne Elemental]

You will not get any NARC bonuses whatso ever anymore, unless the mech you narced is Killed by that very last death blow being done by LRM.

It needs to be reverted back go trickle CBills on any damage while its active like it used to, as well as giving ANTI-ECM knockout Cbills & scouting Cbill rewards, but in all honestly NARC is useless with this much ECM running around.

Edited by Mister D, 12 August 2015 - 10:05 PM.

[RedDevil]

It's not useless, and they need to give more incentive to people to use them so they can see it with their own eyes.

[Deathlike]

Mister D, on 12 August 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

You will not get any NARC bonuses whatso ever anymore, unless the mech you narced is Killed by that very last death blow being done by LRM.

It needs to be reverted back go trickle CBills on any damage while its active like it used to, as well as giving ANTI-ECM knockout Cbills & scouting Cbill rewards, but in all honestly NARC is useless with this much ECM running around.

Well, if the ECM radius nerf comes to fruition, the weaker overlapping ECM coverage will favor NARC.

In regards to the C-bills/reward... I don't see why having a NARC C-bill bug is a bad thing... it's not a big deal when it is abused... the fact that it isn't used generally in the first place provides good reason to have the reward.

Edited by Deathlike, 12 August 2015 - 10:53 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Deathlike, on 12 August 2015 - 07:06 PM, said:

Artemis counters the NARC bonus?

Say whaaaaa?

Not all Artemis and NARC effects aren't supposed to stack, so I guess if they chose the wrong value to assign the verification...it makes sense.


No way for me to confirm it without testing, and I'm fresh out of Premium.

[Diablobo]

Artemis does not provide any bonus unless the launcher has line of sight.

[Alistair Winter]

As others have said, the only NARC bonus you get is if someone else gets the killing blow on your NARC'd target. If you NARC a Dire Wolf and your teammates LRM it down to 10% health and a Locust with a small laser with range quirks and a range module steals the killing blow by small laser sniping for a total of 0.1 dmg, you get nothing.

Don't worry, Rewards 2.0 is just a placeholder.

[MechWarrior3671771]

"It's not useless, and they need to give more incentive to people to use them so they can see it with their own eyes."

Its useless on a Raven 3L, which is quirked for Narcs. And the +10 duration doesn't even work (tested at 30 secs).

Although I agree, would like to see more incentive for Narc, just keep it away from my already damage-starved Ravens.

[Floodinator]

When I play my NARC Raven I get plenty of NARC and anty ECM bonuses.

The problem with NARc is, especially in CW, there are atleast 5 Mechs with ECM and it is really dam hard to NARC all 5 of them and UAV doesn't really help, since normal players see them really fast.
But if you can NARC like 8 players up all the time in a round it becomes like playing against 12 wallhackers!

Edited by Floodina0t, 16 August 2015 - 12:21 PM.