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#1 Hades Trooper

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 12:41 AM

what is with this trying, in my eyes, to con me into buying an unlock for the chassis for class even at 50% when 1 shot use is soo much cheaper even if you have the 4 variants as 1 of them is a Invasion unique geometry that won't accept it.

Make it so Invasion varinats can also use the camo or it's just not a smart thing to do in my eyes, idk anyone who changes there camo that often it's worth unlocking a whole chassis instead of just 1 shots for clan mechs.

Perhaps for IS chassis with 6 variants yeah but for 2 mechs which i try not to use in favour of the 30% c-bill boost invasion ones, yeah no thanks.

Give me something thats a true sale or deal and you got my cash till then, please stop trying to delude me and many others into thinking that even at 50% the clan camo unlock for the chassis over 1 shot use is a good deal.

#2 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 12:45 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 14 August 2015 - 12:41 AM, said:


Make it so Invasion varinats can also use the camo or it's just not a smart thing to do in my eyes, idk anyone who changes there camo that often it's worth unlocking a whole chassis instead of just 1 shots for clan mechs.


Actually, they are planning on making all "Special" variants, like Heros, Invasion, Resistance, et cetera, capable of using basic camo patterns. It's just going to take them some time to do it.

But, i would agree. The permanent unlockable camos are just not worth the MC. Too expensive.
It's better to use the One-shots, even if you apply the same camo on all of your mechs. :rolleyes:

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 14 August 2015 - 12:51 AM.


#3 Rushmoar

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 12:51 AM

Yea 1 shots are the best value. That said I like the price for colors. Pay for them 1 time and if you have 100 mechs you can use red paint 100 times. That's a deal i can live with.


View PostJuodas Varnas, on 14 August 2015 - 12:45 AM, said:

Actually, they are planning on making all "Special" variants, like Heros, Invasion, Resistance, et cetera, capable of using basic camo patterns. It's just going to take them some time to do it.

I don't think this is correct. The "Special" variants, like Heros, Invasion, Resistance will only be able to use the Faction camos only. The 6 IS factions or the 4 Clan faction.

Edited by Rushmoar, 14 August 2015 - 12:55 AM.


#4 Kiyoshi Amaya

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 01:04 AM

View PostRushmoar, on 14 August 2015 - 12:51 AM, said:

Yea 1 shots are the best value. That said I like the price for colors. Pay for them 1 time and if you have 100 mechs you can use red paint 100 times. That's a deal i can live with.

I don't think this is correct. The "Special" variants, like Heros, Invasion, Resistance will only be able to use the Faction camos only. The 6 IS factions or the 4 Clan faction.


Juodas Varnas is indeed correct. My SHC-Prime (I) has digital camo bought with 1 shot. No way am I spending 750mc to "unlock" a camo for one chassis type. Far too expensive.

#5 Cyborne Elemental

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 01:22 AM

I made the mistake of unlocking Woodland camo for 750MC on my Victors.. A week later, they nerfed the crap out of the victor, so it was a double whammy.

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 01:54 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 14 August 2015 - 12:41 AM, said:

what is with this trying, in my eyes, to con me into buying an unlock for the chassis for class even at 50% when 1 shot use is soo much cheaper even if you have the 4 variants as 1 of them is a Invasion unique geometry that won't accept it. Make it so Invasion varinats can also use the camo or it's just not a smart thing to do in my eyes, idk anyone who changes there camo that often it's worth unlocking a whole chassis instead of just 1 shots for clan mechs. Perhaps for IS chassis with 6 variants yeah but for 2 mechs which i try not to use in favour of the 30% c-bill boost invasion ones, yeah no thanks. Give me something thats a true sale or deal and you got my cash till then, please stop trying to delude me and many others into thinking that even at 50% the clan camo unlock for the chassis over 1 shot use is a good deal.


To be honest, especially having just created a thread on the XP/Cbill/PT economy, I think PGI needs to sit down and have a real review a bit like this:

'Players want to support the game, players want to use PT, players want XP to mean something, players play for rewards, players want camo and colours, players will pay for MC, players like modules, players don't want to feel ripped off so... How do we make this make money for us and keep players happy.' If they start off with that kind of question, listen to feedback, use some common sense.. we'll get there.

#7 Appogee

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 01:56 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 14 August 2015 - 12:45 AM, said:

Actually, they are planning on making all "Special" variants, like Heros, Invasion, Resistance, et cetera, capable of using basic camo patterns. It's just going to take them some time to do it.

So many plans, so little progress.

#8 Wrathful Scythe

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 02:00 AM

View PostAppogee, on 14 August 2015 - 01:56 AM, said:

So many plans, so little progress.


I would have bought the camos for my invasion variants. That would have been the perfect moment to release them but making minor changes to the variants seems to take much time.

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 02:14 AM

I would have probably bought every camo pattern by now if they were account wide on all mechs.

Edited by ninthstreet, 14 August 2015 - 02:24 AM.


#10 Hades Trooper

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 06:34 AM

1500 MC or 750 on sale for 1 chassis is just too much.

when is PGI going to release on some things it's better to get a few bucks from EVERYONE than next to none from a few whales?

#11 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 08:45 AM

View PostHades Trooper, on 14 August 2015 - 06:34 AM, said:

1500 MC or 750 on sale for 1 chassis is just too much.

when is PGI going to release on some things it's better to get a few bucks from EVERYONE than next to none from a few whales?


They did when they allowed you to buy camos for one-shot.

#12 Mister Blastman

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 09:52 AM

Paying for paint or camo is ridiculous. Back in the day camo and paint came with the game for free! (after you bought the game)

And we could even make our own!

#13 Yellonet

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:00 AM

I thought one-shot meant you only had the camo for one match, is that incorrect?

#14 AlphaToaster

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:06 AM

Back when I bought my first DDC I was really excited about MWO and was planning on having all these different camos that I would switch around so my mech was always dressed for success depending on the map.

Then I realized it's a 10 to 1 cost ratio and math happened. One-shots ever since.

Also it didn't help when I found out some people were using sweetFX to clean up the graphics and there was no way to actually hide using camo. So there's that too.



#15 Xetelian

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:14 AM

View PostYellonet, on 14 August 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

I thought one-shot meant you only had the camo for one match, is that incorrect?


Not as far as I know. Its a one time usage and if you change it you can't change it back without paying to oneshot again.

#16 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:26 AM

View PostYellonet, on 14 August 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

I thought one-shot meant you only had the camo for one match, is that incorrect?

Nope.
One-shot camos are PERMANENT UNTIL REMOVED

They're a really nice deal, to be honest.

#17 Otto Cannon

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 11:46 AM

I might be more tempted to use camo if they put some effort into it. Most patterns are a horrible low res mess.

#18 Revis Volek

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 11:58 AM

View PostRushmoar, on 14 August 2015 - 12:51 AM, said:

Yea 1 shots are the best value. That said I like the price for colors. Pay for them 1 time and if you have 100 mechs you can use red paint 100 times. That's a deal i can live with.



I don't think this is correct. The "Special" variants, like Heros, Invasion, Resistance will only be able to use the Faction camos only. The 6 IS factions or the 4 Clan faction.



This is in fact wrong, i already but a Normal MC camo (Not sure which one) on my EBJ Prime....It's like the 3 color splattered camo looking one but its NOT a faction pattern.

You can put anyone you want on them now....

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 12:01 PM

I'm only missing a few camo patterns across my 25 mechs. One-shots all day, baby!

#20 Revis Volek

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 12:04 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 14 August 2015 - 10:26 AM, said:

Nope.
One-shot camos are PERMANENT UNTIL REMOVED

They're a really nice deal, to be honest.



Listen to Judoas, I already sent him down the wrong path concerning camos once before!

He was a good sport about it too! But he is correct...


and yea you can buy like 7 one shots for the price of ONE UNLOCK...totally not worth it.

Edited by DarthRevis, 14 August 2015 - 12:04 PM.






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