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#1 Spare Parts Bin

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 08:21 PM

I have enough MC to buy 2 more Timberwolves to complete the set.( I also have elited 3 Stormcrows and basiced 3 Adders.) I have enough MC to buy either a Hellbringer B or one Warhawk preferably one I elited previously.

Which would you choose and why?

Look sorry about the 20 questions but I am trying to play 1-3 games of CW and the same amount of regular MWO each day to build a C-Bill War chest to buy additional omnipods and modules. Today I raised roughly 175K to try and offset the 570K I spent today but I have raised a net of 1,088,000 C-Bills in the last 3 days.

Thank you again guys, GLHH!!!

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 09:52 PM

So, with the Loki, you bring ECM. With the Masakari, you bring a few heavy weapons. At this point, it depends on playstyle. Not knowing your playstyle, I feel the HBR has more variety available.

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 12:15 AM

do you enjoy the Timber Wolves? if so I would strongly advise getting another of those, the Timber Wolf is probably the best Mech in the game, and getting it to elite will help.

the Helbringer is not quite as good as the Timber Wolf but is still very popular, at least in part due to its ability to carry ECM.

the Warhawk is a good assault Mech, it is a good LRM platform or with a lot of hardwired heat sinks it is pretty good with 2-4 large energy weapons, it is not anywhere near as fast or maneuverable as the Clan Heavies but is far faster and more agile than the Dire Wolf.

I do not know which you will like most, but on the whole my opinion is that you are usualy best off getting a chassis to full Elite before diversifying

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 12:55 AM

i don't understand the "preferably one i elited previosly" part. you already owned and skilled them in the past?
Also, you're going to buy them with MC because you don't have enough time to grind out the C-Bills, correct?
What kind of modules do you already own? radar deprivation? seismic? target gathering? weapon cooldown or range?

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 12:59 AM

I'd rank: Timbers, Hellbringers, then Warhawks.

The reason being the flexibility you gain with the 65 tonner to mix into the 240 ton drop deck. And it has really nice and high hardpoints in the torso.

Warhawks are fine, but with their profile, they can get focused down, being mistaken for a Dire.

#6 Onimusha shin

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 01:23 AM

i rank HBR, SCR, HBR, WHK. suits my playing style of being a peeky *******.

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 03:20 AM

I owned 3 Warhawks but sold them to finance Direwolves. Now with the decrease in drop deck weight I need firepower with lightier weight, so I thought I would alternate Timberwolves(vs Warhawks), Stormcrows,Adders, and Hellbringers.

Sounds like the best plan based on what you say is buy the Hellbringer over the Warhawk and use 2 Adders if necessary. Thank you again guys GLHFHH!!!!

Edited by Spare Parts Bin, 17 August 2015 - 03:22 AM.


#8 Onimusha shin

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 07:34 PM

CW dropdeck with HBRs is rather flexible:

2 HBRs 2 SCRs
3 HBRs 1 ADR/IFR

All depends on what you have in your stable atm.

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 07:57 PM

Hellbringer. The Warhawk's side torso configuration makes loading it out problematic. The Hellbringer is more flexible, carries ECM, and fits more easily into a Community Warfare drop deck.

Don't misunderstand me: the Warhawk has workable configurations, but the Hellbringer is a much stronger choice.

However, if you do well with the Timber Wolf - and most do - you should buy the next two to get your set of three and elite that chassis as well. Some people do like the Hellbringer for their CW drops, but the Timber wolf can carry jump jets, too - and a 'mech in the bay is worth two on the sales floor.

#10 MechWarrior3671771

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 08:10 PM

I would go hellbringer, for reasons others have listed.

Problem with the Warhawk - I've seen lots of pilots mistake its profile as Dire Wolf, and call for their team to focus fire it down. While that may be amusing, it also means a new warhawk pilot might feel picked on ;)

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 11:52 PM

I already had the Hellbringers, so I bought 3 Warhawks during the sale. I've basic'd 2/3 so far. They are pretty good long range support mechs; room for lots of LRMs, and PPC quirks. In even PUG games though It can be a liability though if your team lacks sturdy heavies and assaults. This can lead to you pouring good amounts of damage downstream but your team falling apart and losing. The problem: same tonnage as the Stalker but without the slim frontal profile. Nearly as voluminous as the Whale but without the sheer armor and HP.

The torso twist is fairly impressive though, and I'm eager if and how much better I do after elites (or even just speed tweak). On paper it looks like all those missile hardpoints can be fitted with SRMs or streaks, and a big ballistic in one of the arms for a more close-ranged build. I've tried a big UAC in each arm with a couple backup lasers, and it's certainly playable, but not really as effective as a long range PPC/LRM mix could be. You can go nuts with LRM ammo too. Seriously, I've messed around with 2500+ missiles and sizable launchers, just chain firing to give people the Betty warning, while still having plenty for missiles for a 400-700 damage match. You can really screen-shake the mess out of somebody.

The Hellbringer can also be a bit fragile, those STs can be peeled off pretty quickly if you aren't careful. But it does have a feel notable advantages: ECM option of course, and high energy/ballistic hardpoints. It can operate a lot more independently than the Warhawk and ECM is always a nice thing to have for the team.





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