70 replies to this topic

[Troutmonkey]

Yeah, nah, get stuffed.

http://mwomercs.com/...vailable-for-mc
EBJ-Prime - 4930 MC
EBJ-A – 5260 MC
EBJ-B - 5330 MC
EBJ-C – 4970 MC

Which makes 3x Ebon Jags ~$73 worth of MC using the $30 bundle
or a le carte for $55 from Wave 3.

We've known this for ages, but I still don't understand. Why are the prices in this game so screwed up?

[Deathlike]

It is what it is.

All the MC values are worthless, even if they are on a "flash sale" that PGI used to run. You are better off when they do the Clan mech sales in bulk, but that's at least months away.

They want you to buy the packs, or wait however long for the next sale.

Edited by Deathlike, 18 August 2015 - 04:27 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Troutmonkey, on 18 August 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Yeah, nah, get stuffed.

http://mwomercs.com/...vailable-for-mc
EBJ-Prime - 4930 MC
EBJ-A – 5260 MC
EBJ-B - 5330 MC
EBJ-C – 4970 MC

Which makes 3x Ebon Jags ~$73 worth of MC using the $30 bundle
or a le carte for $55 from Wave 3.

We've known this for ages, but I still don't understand. Why are the prices in this game so screwed up?

because of IGP. The publisher thats no longer attached toPGI - hey wait then why havent tye prices changed?

because greed and ppl will pay it

[CtrlAltWheee]

It's not an optimal business plan.

[bad arcade kitty]

because a lot of mc is given away for free

[Alistair Winter]

I regret every mech I've purchased for MC, including some of the hero mechs. I should have spent it all on mech packs.

[Deathlike]

bad arcade kitty, on 18 August 2015 - 04:33 PM, said:

because a lot of mc is given away for free

lol no

I got Rank 15 in Kurita.

The payout was ONLY 1500MC.

Much wow.

[Green Mamba]

Their accounting department have crunched the numbers and know the Whales will buy them like they always do.Nostalgia is deadly to the Wallet.Only way to stop them is if PGI reaches the breakpoint of Whale retention and Russ pulls the Plug on the game

[bad arcade kitty]

Deathlike, on 18 August 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

lol no

I got Rank 15 in Kurita.

The payout was ONLY 1500MC.

Much wow.

the amount of mc given for, say, the summer heat event was like many dozens if not hundred thousand dollars; and it was not the only one

[Deathlike]

bad arcade kitty, on 18 August 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

the amount of mc given for, say, the summer heat event was like many dozens if not hundred thousand dollars; and it was not the only one

If I had to actually count some of that... it's still very little in the grand scheme of things.

[Moonlight Grimoire]

The prices are sadly still way up there due to PGI is still using IGP's setup which is... frustrating. The biggest issue is that it is gated and aimed at whales (people who have money and will spend thousands on this game) and not having true options for the typical player who would willingly throw five to twenty dollars at the game every few months or so. They do need to look at opening up content to non-whales without alienating too many of the whales (it is inevitable any change to the game will make whales leave, that is their nature).

[darkchylde]

Troutmonkey, on 18 August 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Yeah, nah, get stuffed.

http://mwomercs.com/...vailable-for-mc
EBJ-Prime - 4930 MC
EBJ-A – 5260 MC
EBJ-B - 5330 MC
EBJ-C – 4970 MC

Which makes 3x Ebon Jags ~$73 worth of MC using the $30 bundle
or a le carte for $55 from Wave 3.

We've known this for ages, but I still don't understand. Why are the prices in this game so screwed up?

None of the mechs are worth the cost. It should be $24 for all the variants.

[FupDup]

[MrJeffers]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 18 August 2015 - 04:30 PM, said:

because of IGP. The publisher thats no longer attached toPGI - hey wait then why havent tye prices changed?

because greed and ppl will pay it

The only pricing that was IGP was Gold Clan mechs.

[Escef]

Troutmonkey, on 18 August 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Yeah, nah, get stuffed.

http://mwomercs.com/...vailable-for-mc
EBJ-Prime - 4930 MC
EBJ-A – 5260 MC
EBJ-B - 5330 MC
EBJ-C – 4970 MC

Which makes 3x Ebon Jags ~$73 worth of MC using the $30 bundle
or a le carte for $55 from Wave 3.

We've known this for ages, but I still don't understand. Why are the prices in this game so screwed up?

Congratulations, you have learned the first step to being a smart consumer: search for the best price.

Seriously, the things could be listed at 10x their current MC price. No one is buying them for MC at this point, they either got the pack, will buy them a-la-cart, or wait for c-bills.

[MrMadguy]

They will be free at Sep 15 - no more $$$ for PGI, till I see, that game really improved.

[Nightshade24]

Reasoning of prices behind...

Collection / package/ pre orders!
each package has tiers, most often 4 however has come in 2, 8, and expansions in the past.

It is a fixed linear scale, for battlemechs (as of 19/08/2015) is 20 dollars per tier (20, 40, 60, 80), while omnimechs are going up by 30's, so (30, 60, 90, 120). Each package contains the stuff of the previous but more, such as more mechs, more content and premium time, etc.

So compairing "20 dollars" for a single locust may be considered bad, but "20 dollars" for a battlemaster- or "80 dollars" for a battlemaster, thunderbolt, shadowhawk, and locust with premium time, cockpit items, etc is not that bad of a value.
Thus this system tries to give more value to the higher price.

Hero mechs!
All hero mechs are at a fixed price depending on there weight. It is (X/5 )x 375 = Price in MC, where X is the weight.

Battle armour
1T = 75 MC
2T = 150 MC
3T = 225 MC
[Ultralights]
10T = 750 MC
15T = 1,125 MC
[Lights]
20T = 1,500 MC
25T = 1,875 MC
30T = 2,250 MC
35T = 2,625 MC
[Mediums]
40T = 3,000 MC
45T = 3,375 MC
50T = 3,750 MC
55T = 4,125 MC
[Heavies]
60T = 4,500 MC
65T = 4,875 MC
70T = 5,250 MC
75T = 5,625 MC
[Assaults]
80T = 6,000 MC
85T = 6,375 MC
90T = 6,750 MC
95T = 7,125 MC
100T = 7,500 MC
[Superheavy/ Collosal]
125T = 9,375 MC
135T = 10,125 MC
150T = 11,250 MC
200T = 15,000 MC

Note: Battlearmour, Ultralight mechs and Superheavy mech prices are estimates using the formula above to estimate what kind of price mechs/ battle armour of those costs are with those formula. The weights uses are not the only weights available, but the only ones ever seen in Cannon, apocryphal, or in the case of the 200 "Orca", Not cannon april fools.

These hero mechs will be these prices no matter what equipment is on it, this means clan hero mechs (even by this IS Hero mech prices) will suffer as a mech with no endo or ferro ever will be priced the same as the best mech in game for the same weight class. IF there is a higher price for clan hero mechs then there will be even more issues, meaning no one besides die hards will get hero novas for eg.

Note: clans do not have heroes yet.


Standard MC price!
These are the MC sum of all equipment on the mech, this includes armour type, armour quantity, structure, equipment, etc ( I think AMS is for some reason excluded...). The reason the Ebon jaguar costs so much is because it has a CLAN XL engine, a CLAN Endo steel, CLAN Ferro fibrous, ER lasers (cost more then standard), ER PPC (cost more then standard), Ultra autocannons (cost more then standard), etc... oh and all those weapons are clan.
Basicly MC price is just the same as C-bill price but converted.


Champion price = the smae as above but wiht a bonus for the champion status.




I can understand the small rpices, not due to greed for PGI but the fact ALL small companies that actually do a game for there job and not a hoby and depend on income to survive and develope the game often have higher prices for premium assets then normal. PGI is doing better then back in 2012 and may possibly change the prices soon™, But at the momment it's jsut remnants to a degree. after steam release or introduction of clan heroes they may need to rework the prices.

Especially considering the fact that the packages are selling like hotcakes due to value but only an idiot or a very money heayv person would buy a Standard mech.

[KraftySOT]

Dont spend money. Problem solved.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

MrJeffers, on 18 August 2015 - 07:12 PM, said:

The only pricing that was IGP was Gold Clan mechs.

So that stopped then?

[RoboPatton]

I have no idea how this business model works on steam, where people buy FULL GAMES for $5.

PGI better figure something out.