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[Dodger79]

Better Call Saul, on 25 August 2015 - 04:58 AM, said:

Sorry I forgot Oceanic people don't count!

What part of "greatest part of the playerbase" don't you understand? The Asians/Oceanics are splintered between a couple of time zones and they aren't the greater part of the overall playerbase as well. So chances are lower that there are other groups matching your size directly are online. If there are mainly 9-12 man premades queuing with some random 5-man-groups then there simply arent`t other groups of the size required to fill up the slots for a 4-man waiting. At this time of day you better play solo or 12-man.

[Better Call Saul]

Dodger79, on 25 August 2015 - 05:35 AM, said:

What part of "greatest part of the playerbase" don't you understand? The Asians/Oceanics are splintered between a couple of time zones and they aren't the greater part of the overall playerbase as well. So chances are lower that there are other groups matching your size directly are online. If there are mainly 9-12 man premades queuing with some random 5-man-groups then there simply arent`t other groups of the size required to fill up the slots for a 4-man waiting. At this time of day you better play solo or 12-man.

The fact is this problem did not exist before PSR was implemented. This has only started happening since the last patch.

People creating groups and having to wait extended periods of time to find a game will get bored and leave.

PGI has also acknowledged the problem:

https://twitter.com/...152137995579392

https://twitter.com/...152739232264192

Edited by Better Call Saul, 25 August 2015 - 05:52 AM.

[Dodger79]

Ok, you are right, it is the matchmaker, playerbase and timezones never were a problem in MWO and after only one week one should expect a newly introduced system to work perfectly. Happy now?

[BattleBunny]

Since this problem didnt exist before PSR I dont see why some people in this thread just choose to ignore the problem and blame the playerbase. I never had trouble finding a game with a small group during the off hours before. Now it is impossible. I am glad PGI is going to look into it.

thx for keeping this topic alive saul.

I was worried all the groups during my afternoons would start playing solo and PGI would conclude the MM is working as intended. good to see my fear was unjustified.

[Malus Darkwood]

But you seem to ignore that there might be other reasons beside the psr system. Maybe people are waiting till the event starts? Just give it some time before you state with 100 % certainty that it´s the fault of the psr system.

Dodger79, on 25 August 2015 - 05:50 AM, said:

Ok, you are right, it is the matchmaker, playerbase and timezones never were a problem in MWO and after only one week one should expect a newly introduced system to work perfectly. Happy now?

Finally someone talking some sense here

[TANTE EMMA]

From what I understood how the new PSR in groups work is that it will calculate an average PSR for the group and then tries to find an appropriate counterpart/group to be matched against....so, if there is just not enough players/groups there, that can match that average, you will wait for an eternity.
I might be wrong, but since the new PSR the wait has increased in groupques. Never waited for an hour, but up to 20minutes is not seldom.

[Malus Darkwood]

I have not waited once for nearly that long since the patch in various groupe sizes. Maybe you all have to extreme tiers?

Edited by malus81, 25 August 2015 - 06:11 AM.

[BattleBunny]

malus81, on 25 August 2015 - 06:10 AM, said:

Maybe you all have to extreme tiers?

Perhaps.

I dont think we should be punished for being in a specific tier.

Edited by BattleBunny, 25 August 2015 - 06:30 AM.

[Malus Darkwood]

BattleBunny, on 25 August 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:

Perhaps.

I dont think we should be punished for being in a specific tier.

Yes, you are absolutly right about that. We´ll see what PGI will do...

[AdamBaines]

Kiiyor, on 25 August 2015 - 04:54 AM, said:

There need to be some release valves loosened... a lot.

Per the new Tier system, there are no "release valves", if IRC.

[Better Call Saul]

Dodger79, on 25 August 2015 - 05:50 AM, said:

Ok, you are right, it is the matchmaker, playerbase and timezones never were a problem in MWO and after only one week one should expect a newly introduced system to work perfectly. Happy now?

Last week a patch was implemented to change matchmaking and from that my search times have increased dramatically.

This is a patch feedback thread, I am giving my feedback so that the matchmaking will be improved and thus lower search times (hopefully).

I'm not sure the playerbase changed dramatically since the last patch, so I don't think it's a factor here.

[D A T A]

Pgi probably thought:
"Dudes, we got a problem: pugs are complaining about getting stomped every day, how can we solve this?"

"Simple! Let's create a new matchmaker so that pro players can not play at all mwo......."

Over 3 minutes of searching = you are in fact banning us from mwo for being too strong

Edited by IL MECHWARRIOR, 26 August 2015 - 01:11 AM.

[BattleBunny]

Quote

Russ Bullock ‏@russ_bullock 25 aug.
I have adjusted a few settings that may help some but select all servers and game modes if possible.

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Russ Bullock ‏@russ_bullock 25 aug.
Seems Euro players kept NA but Oceanic players went Oceanic only,likely fine for solo and PM's but for group Queue-should keep NA selected.

so the solution to the group queue searchtime problem for the moment seems to be:

"asking nicely if everybody would please allow all servers."
OFFCOURCE groups that had the 30 minute searches had everything enabled . The groups that find quik matches on their servers arent going to play on other servers because my group cannot find a match.

I hope they come with a REAL solution soon.

Edited by BattleBunny, 26 August 2015 - 06:36 AM.

[ShinVector]

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 26 August 2015 - 01:06 AM, said:

Pgi probably thought:
"Dudes, we got a problem: pugs are complaining about getting stomped every day, how can we solve this?"

"Simple! Let's create a new matchmaker so that pro players can not play at all mwo......."

Over 3 minutes of searching = you are in fact banning us from mwo for being too strong

Well... Tier 4 and 5 needs to protected from you guys...

Honestly though... I think thats the problem for groups... Won't know until PGI releases some stats on MM at various timings.

[BattleBunny]

I am eating my words from the previous post.

Search times have decreased for the group queue overall. It is still hard to find a match in the off hours, but at least we are finding one.

Nice job guys. thank you.

[Malus Darkwood]

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 26 August 2015 - 01:06 AM, said:

Pgi probably thought:
"Dudes, we got a problem: pugs are complaining about getting stomped every day, how can we solve this?"

"Simple! Let's create a new matchmaker so that pro players can not play at all mwo......."

Over 3 minutes of searching = you are in fact banning us from mwo for being too strong

Yeah, bad PGI, thinking about non pro gamers, just pure evil.

But seriously, the theoretical idea behind the PSR system is good, there might just be not enough players in tier 1 (where I guess you are). But you can not punish all players for that fact (if that even is the problem). Or do you like to smash players that are far worst than you? Does that make fun?

[BattleBunny]

its more fun then looking at the spinning wheel.

[BattleBunny]

SJR Rouza started off his birthday stream at the end of the euro afternoon and he was greeted with a 23 minute search.
I'd say you are not done tweeking Russ :-)

http://www.twitch.tv/therouza

[Solahma]

Oh, you already posted about it

Yeah, I left the stream, hosted a meeting, grabbed lunch, and got back to my computer and they were STILL searching.

[Spazamataz]

seriously? the problem is even effecting solo drops.. Piranha have more than enough staff and budget to give ppl what they have (often) payed for... a multiplayer 'social' mech game...