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[Yanlowen Cage]

Tried the standard engine med laser vomit 4p and never did like it too much. Not really my play style. But being a medium/light pilot I decided not to give up on it. Finally I settled on a xl 275 in my hunchie with 3 er large lasers and 6 small lasers,
Now I can't get enuff of the mech. Rarely have less the 400 to 500 damage per match and find that it is very survivable if used correctly. It works well at range group firing the large lasers together and has enuff stamina and backed by the small lasers is a fairly competent brawler if needed.
So is it heresy to like this build?

[El Bandito]

XL on Swaybacks used to be a really bad idea. With the new armor and structure quirks, it is now less of a bad idea. I suppose ERLL have enough range to make you less of a prime target so it works.

Alternatively you can pack LPLs for the shorter duration and ML synergy. HBK-4P Facemelter

Edited by El Bandito, 25 August 2015 - 05:02 AM.

[Cyborne Elemental]

As quickly as people can get CT cheese killed these days I think more people are exploring XL builds.

I guess its better to punch back as hard as you can with speed than to slowly creep in and walk out as a stick that can't fight anyway.

[Fate 6]

El Bandito, on 25 August 2015 - 04:55 AM, said:

XL on Swaybacks used to be a really bad idea. With the new armor and structure quirks, it is now less of a bad idea. I suppose ERLL have enough range to make you less of a prime target so it works.

Alternatively you can pack LPLs for the shorter duration and ML synergy. HBK-4P Facemelter

Or 9MPL because even assault mechs don't want a 54 damage load to the face

[Bishop Steiner]

Yanlowen Cage, on 25 August 2015 - 04:52 AM, said:

Tried the standard engine med laser vomit 4p and never did like it too much. Not really my play style. But being a medium/light pilot I decided not to give up on it. Finally I settled on a xl 275 in my hunchie with 3 er large lasers and 6 small lasers,
Now I can't get enuff of the mech. Rarely have less the 400 to 500 damage per match and find that it is very survivable if used correctly. It works well at range group firing the large lasers together and has enuff stamina and backed by the small lasers is a fairly competent brawler if needed.
So is it heresy to like this build?

Yes. Seek counseling. IMMEDIATELY.

(Though I often have run XL HBKs for giggles, but just not really my thing)

[Rhaythe]

I don't even run XLs in my Centurions. Running them in Hunchbacks... you're a braver man than I.

[Kiiyor]

I often run XL's in mechs I really shouldn't run them in. It really lends a sense of urgency to learning how to roll damage

[Cyborne Elemental]

Those massive armor/structure makes it easier to pull off, I've seen 4-J's running XL alot as soon as it got quirked, and Jman was running XL-4p for a long time before that quite successfully.

I've ran this for a day, it did well beating clanners at their own laservomit game.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5bdacfb84baaaf4

Edited by Mister D, 25 August 2015 - 06:10 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

It's never wrong to love a Hunchback

I still run my 4P, and as a matter of fact, prefer taking it over my 4G (mostly due to A/C20 frailty).

I still run it with the good 'ol STD engine and 9 MLasers. It is definently an exercise in heat management, but I tend to do really well with it.

An XL with LLasers sounds OK to me. It's not my preferred setup, but I see the merits. It does after all have pretty high weapon hard points after all.

Great mech that's never wrong to love.

[Bishop Steiner]

MeiSooHaityu, on 25 August 2015 - 06:03 AM, said:

It's never wrong to love a Hunchback

I still run my 4P, and as a matter of fact, prefer taking it over my 4G (mostly due to A/C20 frailty).

I still run it with the good 'ol STD engine and 9 MLasers. It is definently an exercise in heat management, but I tend to do really well with it.

An XL with LLasers sounds OK to me. It's not my preferred setup, but I see the merits. It does after all have pretty high weapon hard points after all.

Great mech that's never wrong to love.

I was running an XL 4P like this HBK-4P
Peeked OK in Under-hive matches, but died a lot against decent players.
Did a little better like this
HBK-4P
but I must stress a LITTLE, lol

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 25 August 2015 - 06:23 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Interesting build.

Trying to create the 4G FLD punch?

[Bishop Steiner]

MeiSooHaityu, on 25 August 2015 - 06:24 AM, said:

Interesting build.

Trying to create the 4G FLD punch?

best way I know to minimize hunch exposure.

[627]

i love XL hunchies, all armor quirks are on the right torso and the left one is so easy to hit. Especially the grid iron drivers with 3MPL and gauss are easy kills

[sycocys]

I still use the ML in my 4P, but rock the xl275 as well. Running a ton under, but whatever laying out that much short duration pinpoint damage on something as mobile as a Hunchback just shred armor off of anything whenever you pop around a corner and will leg even the boldest Cheetah in short order.

[Lorian Sunrider]

627, on 25 August 2015 - 07:02 AM, said:

i love XL hunchies, all armor quirks are on the right torso and the left one is so easy to hit. Especially the grid iron drivers with 3MPL and gauss are easy kills

Yeah I definitely run my Grid Iron with Gauss and 3MPL. Guilty as charged. That being said I die way more to CT than my Hunch being blown up anymore.

Definitely ran a match recently where a guy was laughing on our team over VOIP because he caught a hunch on the other team running XL and popped him early on. I kept my mouth shut during the match because I was running my GI with XL. Ended up with 4 kills, 7 assists and 700+ damage. We had a good laugh about it during the end screen.

Biggest thing is if you are running an XL Engine you have to treat it differently and be better at torso twisting and good at managing your alpha's.

[RoboPatton]

IDK, better do a Barrel Roll Fox...



If you lose that LT, you're done anyway. You can still pew pew one head lazor... Like having a toothpick in a gun-fight...yeahhh...

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Fate 6, on 25 August 2015 - 05:44 AM, said:

Or 9MPL because even assault mechs don't want a 54 damage load to the face

If I were going to XL a Swayback, I'd try something like this.

[Chuck Jager]

The 275 is a good choice for the xl because it does allow for a better spread of damage. On my GI I drop one mplas to a mlas and take the 275, it is a ton easier to play.

I used the 3 lplas on the P to master it. IS mlas range can be a pain in pugs.

[Coolant]

Nothing wrong with XL engines

Edited by Coolant, 25 August 2015 - 11:01 AM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

9MPL XL275 4p is an absolute joy for dealing with cheetos. Granted due to BS leg structure quirks you can't instantly leg one but they won't wanna stick around.