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[BattleBunny]

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<23:00:51> "BattleBunny": fluff o/
<23:22:27> "FluffehBunneh": OHAIS <3
<23:22:45> "FluffehBunneh": I'm playing GTA Online :> MWO's searching time is awful D:

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[DarthPeanut]

Search times in group queue were AWFUL this past weekend and 10+ minutes each time... during NA prime with all mode selected and servers. We tried anything for a 4 man to a 10 man but with such long search times that people quit to play CW, solo, other games, etc.

[BattleBunny]

phil(Sean lang) dropped into GMans stream. Gman and his SJR buddies were in group queue not finding any matches at around 7:00 GMT. There was some discussion with phil about the long group queue search times.

Phil "PGI is well aware of this problem. but its a problem with players choice so.."
I am not sure what to do with this statement really.

you can watch it back at http://www.twitch.tv...past_broadcasts

edit: SJR gave up btw. They all started syncdropping in solo queue.

Edited by BattleBunny, 01 September 2015 - 11:46 PM.

[HadleyHope]

Silicon Life, on 01 September 2015 - 09:57 AM, said:

As someone who did an analysis of free 2 play games on youtube stated, you should enjoy paying for things in f2p games, not feel forced to. In MWO with regards to mechbays, you are forced to buy mechbays if you want more mechs, this is a purchase most would feel forced to make, instead of something they naturally want to make.

It is not to hard to get more than 4 mechbays, you can get 10 extra ones by completing rank 2 in each of the different factions in the dreaded CW.

[smokefield]

pgi wants to protect new people right ? those who dont know how to play....so just put a 1k game protection (people under 1k games will drop in a separate queue) for new people and then let the game roll the dice....and put whoever is in queue to play..no matter the skill. afterall..if 1k games you do not know at least the basics and something more..then you will never know....

Edited by smokefield, 02 September 2015 - 04:33 AM.

[Karen Supreme]

Meanwhile I solved the problem with my tier: new account, and here is: (tzetzefly 1° match; btw "I want a shc" is an alt account too )





I had fun.

[Yokaiko]

smokefield, on 02 September 2015 - 04:32 AM, said:

1k games you do not know at least the basics and something more..then you will never know....

You might be shocked about the actual metrics there.

[KraftySOT]

PGI: "Were aware of the problem, but its your fault."

[Yokaiko]

KraftySOT, on 02 September 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

PGI: "Were aware of the problem, but its your fault."

Because PGI.

[smokefield]

well then..lets go into milimetrics...

seriously now...group queue should have a very relaxed mm and very short search times...

it will be bad if i cant get to play with my friends...

[Juju Shinobi]

Amsro, on 01 September 2015 - 10:33 AM, said:

Those where good times to be honest, eventually us "OLD's" became close enough skillwise to make the matches vs the "leet" groups exciting. Adapting and learning is essential, this typically comes with getting wiped out first.

gg close

I like your mentality. Instead of whining and mad cuz bad, you guys saught to learn and improve yourselves. That is the kind of mentality we need in this game and not bad idiots constantly whining and bitching about "OMG WHY AM I DROPPING AGAINST EmP *cry cry whine whine*"

KraftySOT, on 02 September 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

PGI: "Were aware of the problem, but its your fault."

Wanna know what PGI replied to cdrolly when he said search times in group queue have been god awful? PGI said that no one else seems to be having a problem with it because they haven't been sending report tickets about it. FYI PGI, people are bitching about it non stop on the forums and reddit. Open your ******* eyes

BattleBunny, on 01 September 2015 - 11:43 PM, said:

phil(Sean lang) dropped into GMans stream. Gman and his SJR buddies were in group queue not finding any matches at around 7:00 GMT. There was some discussion with phil about the long group queue search times.

Phil "PGI is well aware of this problem. but its a problem with players choice so.."
I am not sure what to do with this statement really.

you can watch it back at http://www.twitch.tv...past_broadcasts

edit: SJR gave up btw. They all started syncdropping in solo queue.

Problem with player choice? Don't give me that ******** Phil. Half the fun of this game is dropping with friends and kicking ass together. Solo dropping and dealing with idiots from either sides gets real old real quick and makes the game pretty stale. I'm almost burnt out at this point thanks to not being able to run group Q with friends

[cSand]

JujuShinobi, on 02 September 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

I like your mentality. Instead of whining and mad cuz bad, you guys saught to learn and improve yourselves. That is the kind of mentality we need in this game and not bad idiots constantly whining and bitching about "OMG WHY AM I DROPPING AGAINST EmP *cry cry whine whine*"

The problem isn't who people are dropping against (in fact we are fine toe to toe against a handful of 1337s), it's that one side is made up of 2-3 man groups of varying skill, and put up against a 12 of *insert tryhard clan here*, after waiting 10-15 minutes for a damn match that lasts 3 minutes.

So on the system in place before the Tiers system, we were getting matches quickly, with varied opponents but generally good games. Now all of a sudden it takes forever to find a match, and being placed against in with or against huge tryhard groups. Waiting 3 times as long as a match lasts is zero fun for anyone. This is with all server zones and game types selected.

So, did the weeknight population (or just the population in general) of this game plummet?

[Bilbo]

JujuShinobi, on 02 September 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

I like your mentality. Instead of whining and mad cuz bad, you guys saught to learn and improve yourselves. That is the kind of mentality we need in this game and not bad idiots constantly whining and bitching about "OMG WHY AM I DROPPING AGAINST EmP *cry cry whine whine*"


Wanna know what PGI replied to cdrolly when he said search times in group queue have been god awful? PGI said that no one else seems to be having a problem with it because they haven't been sending report tickets about it. FYI PGI, people are bitching about it non stop on the forums and reddit. Open your ******* eyes


Problem with player choice? Don't give me that ******** Phil. Half the fun of this game is dropping with friends and kicking ass together. Solo dropping and dealing with idiots from either sides gets real old real quick and makes the game pretty stale. I'm almost burnt out at this point thanks to not being able to run group Q with friends

The player choice they are talking about is hard choices on game modes and pretty loose restrictions on weight class choice within the group. Nothing to do with the choice to solo or group.

[BattleBunny]

cSand, on 02 September 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

Waiting 3 times as long as a match lasts is zero fun for anyone. This is with all server zones and game types selected.

So, did the weeknight population (or just the population in general) of this game plummet?

I seriously doubt that. Its to much of a coincedence that the implementation of tiers came at the same time group queue search times for certain players suddenly tripled or more. I could find matches in the off hours dropping with one or two friends. Suddenly thats just gone. searching for 10+ minutes with everything enabled is not an acceptable way to play an online game with your friends.

Excluding a tier 1 from playing with tier 4 and 5 in the group queue is rediculous. It limits the options without providing any release valves, in a population thats way to small to pull this of.

Edited by BattleBunny, 02 September 2015 - 10:57 AM.

[cSand]

BattleBunny, on 02 September 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

I seriously doubt that. Its to much of a coincedence that the implementation of tiers came at the same time group queue search times for certain players suddenly tripled or more. I could find matches in the off hours dropping with one or two friends.

I totally agree. We had no issues even in off hours before. Now it's unreal. On the bright side I'm getting lots of studying in in between matches, lol

[Solahma]

I really hope they try a new radically simple system for Group Queue only. We need the to be testing this AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE to get a GOOD and ACCEPTABLE system in-place before something like a Steam release.

It's a very risky game for them to claim something like a steam release and influx of new players would solve this issue, it's a broken MM system for Group queue, it didn't work, it won't be sustainable. Time to try something new.

[cSand]

Solahma, on 02 September 2015 - 11:13 AM, said:

I really hope they try a new radically simple system for Group Queue only. We need the to be testing this AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE to get a GOOD and ACCEPTABLE system in-place before something like a Steam release.

It's a very risky game for them to claim something like a steam release and influx of new players would solve this issue, it's a broken MM system for Group queue, it didn't work, it won't be sustainable. Time to try something new.

Amen

[Coolant]

I rarely post twice in a thread, and I've already replied once, but the seriousness of this issue warrants another post. The search times are ridiculous. I would rather play any combo of players as long as i get a match faster. Searches for solo are probably around 4 minutes. This is beyond acceptable. Play, say, 10 matches in a night at around 10 minutes each that is a little over an hour and a half of actual play time and 40 minutes of search time! Or almost 29%!

Edited by Coolant, 02 September 2015 - 12:20 PM.

[Chemie]

10 min wait is crazy. All restrictions should be abandoned after ~2 minutes so you always get a game, no matter how terrible said game is . That is better than sitting doing nothing for 10 min.

I do like the quote that it is players fault....I suspect most players who do not like 10 min waits have 2 servers and all game modes checked already ....so....not.

Edited by Chemie, 02 September 2015 - 12:47 PM.

[FluffehBunneh]

Yarp... I can confirm the searching wheel trauma here too.

Hopefully PGI will quickly re-fix the release valves for the group queue. Either that or they need to seriously consider a new matchmaking system for it.