i could care less of public groups
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Wait Times Making Game Almost Unplayable
Started by CapnKirk13, Sep 01 2015 07:27 AM
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Posted 02 September 2015 - 02:19 PM
bad arcade kitty, on 02 September 2015 - 02:18 PM, said:
i could care less of public groups
well the world does revolve around you so I guess everything is OK then
Edited by cSand, 02 September 2015 - 02:19 PM.
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Posted 02 September 2015 - 02:50 PM
I can direct you to a stream last night of 4-5 players searching for literally 25+ minutes multiple times in a row until they called it... some stopped playing and others went solo queue.
Honestly seeing the search times in the group queue and hearing from unit friends saying it is unreasonable to drop group much right now... I have not bothered logging in. I probably will wait till the weekend and hope populations are better. I have limited time in the evening during the week so only getting in a few matches in hours online is not appealing.
Honestly seeing the search times in the group queue and hearing from unit friends saying it is unreasonable to drop group much right now... I have not bothered logging in. I probably will wait till the weekend and hope populations are better. I have limited time in the evening during the week so only getting in a few matches in hours online is not appealing.
Edited by DarthPeanut, 02 September 2015 - 02:53 PM.
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Posted 02 September 2015 - 03:17 PM
Was so bored yesterday waiting for drops I made this. 30 minutes is such a long time and that was with a 6 man group.
#86
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Posted 02 September 2015 - 03:48 PM
Hmm..
Looks like I'm not the only one having problems with the group queue than... spent the last 2 days without any group games cause our 2 man, 3 man groups took more than 10 minutes of searching for a game unsuccessfully...
Looks like I'm not the only one having problems with the group queue than... spent the last 2 days without any group games cause our 2 man, 3 man groups took more than 10 minutes of searching for a game unsuccessfully...
#87
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Posted 02 September 2015 - 06:24 PM
No type of ranking system will fix low pop.
So many hopes about a steam release, well MWO has been F2P for what going on to 4 years? anyone that has wanted to try it has had ample opportunity to try it, gamers searching for games find them.
Ask about MWO in any other game and most people are aware of it and most comments are not favorable.
Only thing that would come from steam release is an angry tirade from people familiar with MWO, and PGI cant censor the steam population like they can here.
I see nothing good for PGI coming out of a steam release..get use to the dwindling pop.
Bishop keep rubbishing SC but close to a million others disagree with you, you are on an Island...
So many hopes about a steam release, well MWO has been F2P for what going on to 4 years? anyone that has wanted to try it has had ample opportunity to try it, gamers searching for games find them.
Ask about MWO in any other game and most people are aware of it and most comments are not favorable.
Only thing that would come from steam release is an angry tirade from people familiar with MWO, and PGI cant censor the steam population like they can here.
I see nothing good for PGI coming out of a steam release..get use to the dwindling pop.
Bishop keep rubbishing SC but close to a million others disagree with you, you are on an Island...
#88
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Posted 03 September 2015 - 05:17 AM
also posted this in patch notes.
I did pseudo science.
Since small groups with my unitmates seem to search forever I tried something new.
I created a 12 men team of people I would all consider to be tier 2 or 3. I hope I am a good judge of skills as this is purely based on my assumption. No obvious good or bad players in the group, but all were veterans of the game and had a good idea how to pilot their mechs. I started at 21:30 my time(Netherlands) which i would classify as EU prime time.
The results were astounding.
For nearly 3 hours we had instamatches. Our longest search time (I timed them all) was 35 seconds. (!!)
Our 12 men coordinated well and comms were good so we quikly rolled through each match, but we found instant matches so we didnt mind much. (sorry if you were on the other side of this experiment at this point)
Around 1:30 am (the early start of US prime) one guy dropped and was replaced with BMMU Weztside, who I would classify easily as tier 1. Our search times increased immediatly to 2-4 minutes, but it was still very acceptable.
As more and more people dropped from the original group they were replaced by people that are all much better pilots then I am, so I would classify them all as tier 1. Search times increased with each replacement.
During what I think would be US prime time, our search times increased to 7 minutes average, with spikes to 15+ minutes three times. So as the playerbase supposedly grew bigger, our search times increased as more really good pilots entered the group.
Conclusion
Find a buddy that is not tier 1 and group with him. Find somebody that has acces to the group queue. Dont group with to many really good players. Playerbase online doesnt seem to affect search times. Group size and high tier players in the group do.
Is this how you want the matchmaker to work PGI?
PS: I hope I didnt insult anybody last night or with this post. All skills assesments are mine and are not based on anything except my personal opinion. Everybody involved in this experiment are fine pilots and good people.
I did pseudo science.
Since small groups with my unitmates seem to search forever I tried something new.
I created a 12 men team of people I would all consider to be tier 2 or 3. I hope I am a good judge of skills as this is purely based on my assumption. No obvious good or bad players in the group, but all were veterans of the game and had a good idea how to pilot their mechs. I started at 21:30 my time(Netherlands) which i would classify as EU prime time.
The results were astounding.
For nearly 3 hours we had instamatches. Our longest search time (I timed them all) was 35 seconds. (!!)
Our 12 men coordinated well and comms were good so we quikly rolled through each match, but we found instant matches so we didnt mind much. (sorry if you were on the other side of this experiment at this point)
Around 1:30 am (the early start of US prime) one guy dropped and was replaced with BMMU Weztside, who I would classify easily as tier 1. Our search times increased immediatly to 2-4 minutes, but it was still very acceptable.
As more and more people dropped from the original group they were replaced by people that are all much better pilots then I am, so I would classify them all as tier 1. Search times increased with each replacement.
During what I think would be US prime time, our search times increased to 7 minutes average, with spikes to 15+ minutes three times. So as the playerbase supposedly grew bigger, our search times increased as more really good pilots entered the group.
Conclusion
Find a buddy that is not tier 1 and group with him. Find somebody that has acces to the group queue. Dont group with to many really good players. Playerbase online doesnt seem to affect search times. Group size and high tier players in the group do.
Is this how you want the matchmaker to work PGI?
PS: I hope I didnt insult anybody last night or with this post. All skills assesments are mine and are not based on anything except my personal opinion. Everybody involved in this experiment are fine pilots and good people.
Edited by BattleBunny, 03 September 2015 - 05:19 AM.
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Posted 03 September 2015 - 05:51 AM
Tier Three is the place to be.
Matchmakin’ is the life for me.
Mech’s spreadin' out so far and wide
Keep your PSR, just give me that Tier Three ride.
Tier One is where I'd rather stay.
I get allergic to non-meta play.
I just adore a snipers view.
Dah-ling I love you but give me that Tier One play.
...The Mechs.
...The rolls.
...Fresh meat.
...Meta Play.
You are my PUG.
Good bye, 12-man life.
Tier Three we are there.
"To the tune of Green Acres"
Matchmakin’ is the life for me.
Mech’s spreadin' out so far and wide
Keep your PSR, just give me that Tier Three ride.
Tier One is where I'd rather stay.
I get allergic to non-meta play.
I just adore a snipers view.
Dah-ling I love you but give me that Tier One play.
...The Mechs.
...The rolls.
...Fresh meat.
...Meta Play.
You are my PUG.
Good bye, 12-man life.
Tier Three we are there.
"To the tune of Green Acres"
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Posted 03 September 2015 - 09:32 AM
Some outtakes from reddit https://www.reddit.c...er_psr_changes/
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To Everyone saying "oh but my queue times are fine" please note that this problem is primarily complaints from the best players in the game. the 1% at the top, who get locked out from playing aginst tier 4&5's.
As a probably tier2-3 player in Oceanic TZ with all options selected I have no issues most of the time until certain players join the group such as Juju, Odin's Steed and a few other guys who we KNOW are at the top of their game (despite PSR not being public yet). As soon as these people join up, the Queue's blow out immensely.
PGI Please fix this. It cannot be good for publicity to lockout your most dedicated, highest skilled, and Vocal players.
As a probably tier2-3 player in Oceanic TZ with all options selected I have no issues most of the time until certain players join the group such as Juju, Odin's Steed and a few other guys who we KNOW are at the top of their game (despite PSR not being public yet). As soon as these people join up, the Queue's blow out immensely.
PGI Please fix this. It cannot be good for publicity to lockout your most dedicated, highest skilled, and Vocal players.
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I need to withdraw my statement from early last week about group queue times being great.
Just after the PSR change went in my queue times were way down from their previous 4-5 minutes to under 2 minutes and better. In the past week though something has clearly changed in either the PSR matchmaker or player population which has raised my anecdotal queue time up to way over 5 minutes per search, sometimes 20-40+ minutes outside of NA primetime.
Soloqueue times appear to be fine though. My average even outside of primetime is less than a minute.
Just after the PSR change went in my queue times were way down from their previous 4-5 minutes to under 2 minutes and better. In the past week though something has clearly changed in either the PSR matchmaker or player population which has raised my anecdotal queue time up to way over 5 minutes per search, sometimes 20-40+ minutes outside of NA primetime.
Soloqueue times appear to be fine though. My average even outside of primetime is less than a minute.
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There needs to be valves. A 5 minute wait time isn't acceptable, let alone a 15 minute one. It's an undeniable design flaw regardless of whether you've been getting decent queues.
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In A CSJ 5 man last night we had all options on and spent 25 minutes in queue. After two of those back to back guys just logged off and didn't bother. PSR is not working well with groups at the moment
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BMMU on several occasions suffered 20+ minute waits, a mostly EU based unit during EU primetime. SJR just found 2 matches in 2.5 hours.
It happens.
It shouldn't.
It happens.
It shouldn't.
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when i'm with a 6+ group of my buddies we regularly wait 10 minutes.
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I live in the NA on the east coast but play between 11pm EST and 6am. This PSR change has been horrible.
Typically our group runs with about 6-10 but with the long wait times a few have taken up other games for a short mwo break. This leaves our unit with around 3-4 on at our usual time and our wait times are typically 15-30 minutes EVERY search.
Typically our group runs with about 6-10 but with the long wait times a few have taken up other games for a short mwo break. This leaves our unit with around 3-4 on at our usual time and our wait times are typically 15-30 minutes EVERY search.
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2 matches in 2 and a half hours.
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Yeah its basicly a waste of time to be in a group outside the pike-times for each region atm
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Can we go without these systems for awhile and see how it plays out yet? I don't want to wait 2-6min for a 3-7min match anymore
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Yeah I tried to get a game last night with 3 others. No game in 40mins, people just went to bed. All modes, all servers
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Edited by BattleBunny, 03 September 2015 - 09:56 AM.
#91
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:51 AM
/resurrect wait times are massively long now and my ping has increased by about 100... anyone else?
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:57 AM
Wait times are always at a maximum, not only because mwo doenst have the biggest community but also because each game at least 1 player wont connect and so you always gotta wait till the very end till game starts. Wait times were always abysmal in mwo
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:23 AM
What about that majority of good ppl gone clan from tukayyid and majority of premades and so called competitive ppl (well compete with so low numbers...,) too, infact i noticed those premades joining qp because of the long time of queues, I never found so much hard times to find or form an IS premade than in these times, maybe this will push PGI to let ppl mixing mechs or maybe some clan/is alliance like nova cat/draconis combine. Also wouldn't be bad to split matchmaking, full group vs grill group and solo vs solo, this for to encourage ppl to play, some could be scared to play FW due to the presence of the best units, grown a lot in numbers since tukayyid and the new skill tree (which actually buffed clan mechs).
Edited by Baron Zen, 13 June 2017 - 06:24 AM.
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