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[FupDup]

And yet they haven't nerfed the Dire Wolf or Hellbringer, and have only slap on the wrist nerfs to the Timber Wolf and Storm Crow...

[Dino Might]

I hope they remove its positive quirks and that's all. Small changes, and see how it goes. Then change more if needed.

[bad arcade kitty]

Dino Might, on 02 September 2015 - 07:05 PM, said:

I hope they remove its positive quirks and that's all.

that's what russ said too

[Johnny Z]

Dino Might, on 02 September 2015 - 07:05 PM, said:

I hope they remove its positive quirks and that's all. Small changes, and see how it goes. Then change more if needed.

I hope the nerf hammer of justice lays a smack down of epic proportions on the Arctic Cheddar.

Edited by Johnny Z, 04 September 2015 - 10:38 AM.

[Y E O N N E]

I Zeratul I, on 02 September 2015 - 06:54 PM, said:

True. Most of the time I see arctic cheetahs, those driving them don't use jump jets. You wouldn't know arctic cheetahs have any jump jets by the way that people pilot them. The same can be said about firestarters. A lot of people seem to use builds with 1 jump jet or none at all. I haven't seen any aerial brawling out of ACH since its inception, or much out of FSH which could make jump jets a non issue.

Really? I see jumping ACHs all the time. Players like Spr1ggan and Yri3l are bouncing all over the place. The trick is knowing when not to do it. You can't really do it in a prolonged duel because it stops your heat dissipation, which gets you killed because you can't shoot anymore. The JJs are extremely useful, however, for entry and exit, and protecting a damaged leg at critical inflection points during an exchange.

The Firestarters don't really jump anymore because, as you said, they don't even carry the JJs around like they used to. They really, really need the heat dissipation on the MPL builds in order to out-DPS the ACH fast enough to avoid dying to a side-loss. FS9s are really easy to side-core for whatever reason these days, so easy that it's my primary target.

Me? I will carry no less than 4 JJs in any Firestarter, because I'm a mobility junkie and something has to make up for it being fat.

[Triordinant]

FupDup, on 02 September 2015 - 07:00 PM, said:

And yet they haven't nerfed the Dire Wolf or Hellbringer, and have only slap on the wrist nerfs to the Timber Wolf and Storm Crow...

I hope the Great Rebalance™ nerfs all those crutch 'mechs.

[Knight Magus]

So does this mean we can start the threads for nerfing the Firestarter now?

[Mystere]

Dirkdaring, on 02 September 2015 - 05:48 PM, said:

I have a 30 ping. I hit one 2 nights ago with 2 full alphas to the back and didn't blow a thing off. That was in my HBR with 2xLPL 5xERSML at near point blank range. Even people who were watching me on we're wondering WTF.

At least one of two things caused it:

• HSR was borked.
  
• You missed.

[Mystere]

Pjwned, on 02 September 2015 - 06:59 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...265481828864000

Russ says hitboxes are fine while we're on the topic.

Well, unless you can show otherwise, they really are fine. Mcgral18 has posted a video showing just that.

[FupDup]

Knight Magus, on 02 September 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

So does this mean we can start the threads for nerfing the Firestarter now?

You mean resume, right? They were very popular before the Cheetah...

[Pjwned]

Mystere, on 02 September 2015 - 07:31 PM, said:

Well, unless you can show otherwise, they really are fine. Mcgral18 has posted a video showing just that.

I wasn't necessarily doubting that, I only tweeted Russ that people have been complaining about it, and I didn't really dispute it here or there.

[TLBFestus]

Does RB know that the date he set is before it comes out for c-bills? There have been a lot of electrical storms and blackouts in his region lately and maybe his calendar is messed up.

[Gas Guzzler]

He specifically pointed out its well before the CBill release, so you all can lose the tin foil hats.

As for the balance changes, I predict that the Cheetah is still going to be a ridiculously effective light, even it is slightly dialed back. You heard it here first!

[Lightfoot]

PGI bows down to player whining again.

[Spr1ggan]

The only things to ever do to it were to lessen the leg structure quirks and the laser quirks. The only thing this mech is really guilty of though is showing just how crap at aiming most players are versus small quick targets. From my experience playing lights, most players just spray their shots all over you or anywhere but you. With IS lights spraying all over the mech would eventually score a ST kill. Not so with the Cheetah, you have to place shots well and the sprayers hate it.

Edited by Spr1ggan, 03 September 2015 - 08:35 AM.

[Spr1ggan]

Mystere, on 02 September 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

At least one of two things caused it:

• HSR was borked.
  
• You missed.

Also a lot of people only manage to keep their laser alpha actually on the light for a fraction of a second and waste the majority of their burn. Then make claims like i hit it for 10 gaziilion damage and it didn't die ARRGHH!11!

Edited by Spr1ggan, 02 September 2015 - 08:45 PM.

[Cyborne Elemental]

[Deathlike]

Mister D, on 02 September 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

Bow To Your God


Chase Me Foolish Players!


That's how I would write this meme.

Edited by Deathlike, 02 September 2015 - 08:55 PM.

[Mystere]

Mister D, on 02 September 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

[Cyborne Elemental]

Edited by Mister D, 02 September 2015 - 09:22 PM.