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[Thorn Blackwell]

Okay, I know it's not slated to be ported to a Mac, but how many of you guys are going to be playing MW:O on your bootcamp drive? If you haven't looked into it maybe you should, because the Mac I have runs Windows better than any PC I've ever owned. I know most of you will think that sounds a bit snobbish, mostly a function of years of prejudice I'd say. There is however a simple explanation for why the Mac's have a small edge. They designed the hardware and software in most cases, and so the drivers for all their devices need little tweaking.

That may be coming to an end soon as Microsoft has built their own Slate Tablet, but how well they do in the future is still a big question. I will be interested to see how well it does in the next couple of years, and I'm interested to see if they start building their own PCs.

I still hope that one day MW:O will be ported to the Mac, but for now I will be able to play fine in bootcamp.

[Lucius Prospero]

Macs, great computers for thrice the price.

Not that I'm knocking Macs, but my 800 dollar PC tower is far more brawny than my two thousand dollar macbook pro. Then again, I use them for different things.

Edited by Lucius Prospero, 19 June 2012 - 01:04 PM.

[Dragonpriest]

heh, trust me, Mac is going nowhere and will be around for a long time to come.

But I don't run bootcamp on my Mac's I'm a purist, don't want anything Microsoft related on my beautiful Mac. That's why I've build a couple of gaming PC's strickly for games.

[B B Wolfe]

Thorn Blackwell, on 19 June 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

Okay, I know it's not slated to be ported to a Mac, but how many of you guys are going to be playing MW:O on your bootcamp drive? If you haven't looked into it maybe you should, because the Mac I have runs Windows better than any PC I've ever owned. I know most of you will think that sounds a bit snobbish, mostly a function of years of prejudice I'd say. There is however a simple explanation for why the Mac's have a small edge. They designed the hardware and software in most cases, and so the drivers for all their devices need little tweaking.

That may be coming to an end soon as Microsoft has built their own Slate Tablet, but how well they do in the future is still a big question. I will be interested to see how well it does in the next couple of years, and I'm interested to see if they start building their own PCs.

I still hope that one day MW:O will be ported to the Mac, but for now I will be able to play fine in bootcamp.

I would be trying that, if my MacBook Pro weren't already 3 years old. MW4 runs fine for me, but I very much doubt it'll come anywhere close to running MWO.

...So I'm building a gaming rig. I'M NOT DISLOYAL, I'M A PRAGMATIST!!!

[Major Bill Curtis]

B B Wolfe, on 19 June 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

I would be trying that, if my MacBook Pro weren't already 3 years old. MW4 runs fine for me, but I very much doubt it'll come anywhere close to running MWO.

...So I'm building a gaming rig. I'M NOT DISLOYAL, I'M A PRAGMATIST!!!

Same here: bootcamping my MacBook Pro does fine on most things, but it's time to build a down-and-dirty AMD gaming rig, I think.

[Avtama]

I'm going to running mine through my bootcamp partitioned drive, as the specs should work fine and I can't justify buying/building a separate system just for gaming!

Don't get me wrong, if I had the money and room in my house then I would be building a gaming rig, running Windows ...

[Thorn Blackwell]

I must admit ... I'm running it on my Mac bootcamp drive because of my 27" monitor. As for being a purist ... The beauty of the bootcamp partition is fixing Windows is a simple unpartition wipe away. In 3 hours you can be running windows again after a clean sweep. It's so simple to clean up its crazy.

I often hear people complain about Apple computer costs, but my next full install version of OS X will only cost me or anyone $20. A lot of the software is similarly inexpensive. Except of course MS products. They are expensive at all times.

[Owl]

I have a Macbook 2.4Ghz Core2Duo™, 8GB of RAM and 320M chip. I run Skyrim on mostly high and it's acceptable. Am I going to even be able to run on Low with this MW Engine?

TIA!

[Amoun Amenti]

I'll be playing it on my bootcamp drive. I'm playing other recent PC games on max, or near max settings on it (eg BF3), so I see no reason MWO should be any different.

[Radman]

We'll see. I don't think my 4yo iMac will be up to the task per the published minimum specs. One of my work laptops might fill the void for a few months though. I'm waiting to see what the new iMac's will have in terms of video cards while my wife is encouraging me to get a mac pro. By the time we save up for that the new ones will likely be out as a bonus. I'm liking the idea of getting a new release iMac this fall though and building a gaming rig on the side. That would probably be less than the mac pro.

Funny, I used to sneer at the iMacs when they first came out. But I love mine. 4 years and still fast enough for anything but newer release games. Rock solid. Only time it crashed is when I made a mistake in Windows. Even better, I convinced all of my family to buy macs and now I never have to fix their computers for them. It's awesome!

[Randal Waide]

I haven't tried boot camp but this will make me install windows on my machine if it works. My question is, will it? I do nothing but work on my macs it would be cool to do MWO.
Can someone tell me if this set up will work with this game?
27-inch, Mid 2011

Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7

Memory 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB

I would appreciate any confirmed responses.
Thanks

[HybridTheory]

Randal Waide, on 03 July 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

I haven't tried boot camp but this will make me install windows on my machine if it works. My question is, will it? I do nothing but work on my macs it would be cool to do MWO.
Can someone tell me if this set up will work with this game?
27-inch, Mid 2011

Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7

Memory 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB

I would appreciate any confirmed responses.
Thanks

It should run... but you may want to consider getting more Memory.... at least thats what I would do in your shoes. 4GB isn't very much

[Sychodemus]

Bootcamp should be able to let you play MWO - depending on your rig, of course. But we'll just have to wait and see. However, given the MWO engine, I would strongly recommend 8GB of memory if you can do it (just all-purpose advice for all players.)


I wish you all luck in any case.

[Romulus Stahl]

Thorn Blackwell, on 19 June 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

Okay, I know it's not slated to be ported to a Mac, but how many of you guys are going to be playing MW:O on your bootcamp drive? If you haven't looked into it maybe you should, because the Mac I have runs Windows better than any PC I've ever owned. I know most of you will think that sounds a bit snobbish, mostly a function of years of prejudice I'd say. There is however a simple explanation for why the Mac's have a small edge. They designed the hardware and software in most cases, and so the drivers for all their devices need little tweaking.

That may be coming to an end soon as Microsoft has built their own Slate Tablet, but how well they do in the future is still a big question. I will be interested to see how well it does in the next couple of years, and I'm interested to see if they start building their own PCs.

I had to pick myself up off the ground after this one, Sir you most certainly run in very limited circle of hardware. If you are going to make a statement like this please provide some qualifiers (what hardware are you comparing). Yes Apple makes a nicely polished product, on the other hand they are all controlling, overpriced, and lagging in hardware development.
In regards to MS vs. Apple, MS is so deeply entrenched into the business world and IT things won't change for a long time. Apple is a small player, non IT business friendly (it costs 2x per seat and doesn't have the same functionality). Apple might actually have a chance if they started selling an OS and allowed others to sell clones vs. trying to selling an accessory.

[silentD11]

I have a macbook pro an HP elitebook for work along with an ASUS G75 and a Samsung 7 Chronos... the mac does not run Windows any better than the PCs, in fact it runs worse in many cases. This isn't going to change. Apple's "strength" (outside of being a fashion statement) is in the combination of limited hardware to make sure things "work"... the Windows boxes have faster SSDs, faster memory, I could get a better GPU, the list goes on.

Better hardware all around, cheaper price... can't really beat that. The exception being the Chronos LCD isn't as good as the rest, but it's hard to notice.

Apple are nice "consumer appliances" but they aren't close to high end or quality. Look at the workstation class notebooks from Dell, HP, hell any major vendor, they make the macbook pros look like a joke and run circles around them.

[Randal Waide]

silentD11, on 03 July 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

I have a macbook pro an HP elitebook for work along with an ASUS G75 and a Samsung 7 Chronos... the mac does not run Windows any better than the PCs, in fact it runs worse in many cases. This isn't going to change. Apple's "strength" (outside of being a fashion statement) is in the combination of limited hardware to make sure things "work"... the Windows boxes have faster SSDs, faster memory, I could get a better GPU, the list goes on. Better hardware all around, cheaper price... can't really beat that. The exception being the Chronos LCD isn't as good as the rest, but it's hard to notice. Apple are nice "consumer appliances" but they aren't close to high end or quality. Look at the workstation class notebooks from Dell, HP, hell any major vendor, they make the macbook pros look like a joke and run circles around them.

I have been working on these "fashion statements" for years, probably since before a lot of you were born. The price really isn't an issue when you have to replace/rebuild a PC every two years. I have a 5 and 6 year old macs that still run my CS3 packages and video editing software like new.
But, I was searching for some actual information about running bootcamp to play MWO, so leave your sales pitch in the Best Buy showroom please. The only thing I have found that my Macs don't do a lot of is games, but I work for a living. I was actually considering building an inexpensive rig, but I don't like the headaches caused by the "new product of the month" not matching the "last new product of the month." You talk price, I talk value.
So suggest a U.S. supplier that I can go and build a PC, something affordable, and be helpful. Like the RAM upgrade response I got earlier. I don't do a much gaming so I am clueless what to buy because I stopped doing research on PCs after MW4.
That being said, if bootcamp will run it I'll stay on the Mac side.
Can't we not have this conversation without getting in to a pissin' match about who's is better?

[OperationExodus]

I would look at newegg.com or tigerdirect.com. I like newegg better in terms of customer service, but if they are out of things you can usually find it for a similar price at tigerdirect. In terms of custom building a gaming desktop, putting it together by ordering the parts from the internet is by far the best option. A little bit of research into the parts and spending the time to put it together yourself will give you a much more custom tailored product as well as save you a TON of money. In terms of laptops, look at the websites of the major manufacturers, but they all basically do the same thing. I like Dells and have bought several, but Sony, HP, etc all also make powerful laptops.

[Mantis]

I have to agree that Win 7 runs superbly on my MBP, and the bootcamp process was extremely simple, though I doubt MWO will run on most, as the video cards aren't great, and that's where the majority of the hurt will come from.

EDIT: To clarify, sure, it will run, it just won't run well.

While I'm sure to cop flak for this, I'm going to suggest Alienware or the Asus gaming series "Laptops", if that's what you're after
As for desktops, there are a few good sites that put together custom PC's for cheap here in Aus, taking the middle man out, and I'm sure there is something similar in the US, but I don't have experience with them.

Sorry!

Edited by Mantis, 03 July 2012 - 07:01 PM.

[Alkazar]

Randal Waide, on 03 July 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

I have been working on these "fashion statements" for years, probably since before a lot of you were born. The price really isn't an issue when you have to replace/rebuild a PC every two years. I have a 5 and 6 year old macs that still run my CS3 packages and video editing software like new.
But, I was searching for some actual information about running bootcamp to play MWO, so leave your sales pitch in the Best Buy showroom please. The only thing I have found that my Macs don't do a lot of is games, but I work for a living. I was actually considering building an inexpensive rig, but I don't like the headaches caused by the "new product of the month" not matching the "last new product of the month." You talk price, I talk value.
So suggest a U.S. supplier that I can go and build a PC, something affordable, and be helpful. Like the RAM upgrade response I got earlier. I don't do a much gaming so I am clueless what to buy because I stopped doing research on PCs after MW4.
That being said, if bootcamp will run it I'll stay on the Mac side.
Can't we not have this conversation without getting in to a pissin' match about who's is better?

The fact of the matter is that most current Apple products tend not to include terribly powerful graphics cards. There are good reasons for this, I'm sure. Slapping a massive dedicated card into a laptop isn't going to do any favors for it's size, weight, or battery life, not to mention the obvious heat issues. Apple can't really be faulted for this particular issue, since their products strive to be as slim and power-efficient as possible.

This does nothing to get around the gaming performance issue, however. There are plenty of modern games that will work perfectly well on any Apple computer running bootcamp, but it's a simple fact that high-end games (such as those running on any version of CryEngine, really) demand quite a lot of graphics power to reach full potential. In high resolution gaming, the processor power becomes much less important than the OOMPH in the GPU.


I'll be the first to admit that I don't really keep up much with current Apple hardware, though. If they've started shoving GTX 570s or some such into their newer computers, then I'll be glad to be enlightened. In any case, that's really the only issue I foresee.




.......neenerneenerapplehasnogamesTROLOLOLO

[Randal Waide]

Alkazar, on 03 July 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

The fact of the matter is that most current Apple products tend not to include terribly powerful graphics cards. There are good reasons for this, I'm sure. Slapping a massive dedicated card into a laptop isn't going to do any favors for it's size, weight, or battery life, not to mention the obvious heat issues. Apple can't really be faulted for this particular issue, since their products strive to be as slim and power-efficient as possible.

This does nothing to get around the gaming performance issue, however. There are plenty of modern games that will work perfectly well on any Apple computer running bootcamp, but it's a simple fact that high-end games (such as those running on any version of CryEngine, really) demand quite a lot of graphics power to reach full potential. In high resolution gaming, the processor power becomes much less important than the OOMPH in the GPU.


I'll be the first to admit that I don't really keep up much with current Apple hardware, though. If they've started shoving GTX 570s or some such into their newer computers, then I'll be glad to be enlightened. In any case, that's really the only issue I foresee.




.......neenerneenerapplehasnogamesTROLOLOLO

Will this run it you think?


Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB

I have no idea about Crysis, I just work on my macs. This card seem to have some oomph?
My issue is, I can get a copy of win 7 and hope or I can build a machine. One way I'm out around $200 for win 7, the other...$800-$1100. for something decent. Am I right?
I may just stick with MWTactics. I have browsers that will run that.