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[reign]

Source: https://www.reddit.c...t_here_6pm_pst/

Octopack: Do you have any news on new weapons, new packs, AI being featured. Also what about new quirks?

• Looking at a complete top to bottom rebalance of all mechs in game. Will not be released in increments but all at once. Multiple PTS and wont be released until community is happy with it
  

[UberStuka]

they are talking about mechs dealing 10% MAGICAL damage when it locks on a target

I don't think anyone will be happy

Edited by UberStuka, 14 September 2015 - 06:26 AM.

[reign]

UberStuka, on 14 September 2015 - 06:26 AM, said:

they are talking about mechs dealing 10% MAGICAL damage when it locks on a target

I don't think anyone will be happy

Well speak out on the effected chassis forum, cause its not going out if the majority does not like it.

[Johnny Z]

My attention span is fine. In fact, oh great I forgot what I was going to say.

[reign]

Johnny Z, on 14 September 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:

My attention span is fine. In fact, oh great I forgot what I was going to say.

Just so many people fired up over this one. I understand My skill crows took a beating... and I can't play much else when drunk...

But lets put the posts where they belong and be specific so we get this right!.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Its different when Russ himself says on a Town hall later on that the crap on the pts was being delayed from the 22nd to the 6th and then further. But the point remains that before they found that they were putting it out on the 22nd. Or thats what Russ was saying

[Mycrus]

reign, on 14 September 2015 - 06:18 AM, said:

Source: https://www.reddit.c...t_here_6pm_pst/

Octopack: Do you have any news on new weapons, new packs, AI being featured. Also what about new quirks?

• Looking at a complete top to bottom rebalance of all mechs in game. Will not be released in increments but all at once. Multiple PTS and wont be released until community is happy with it
  

who knows with those guys... positions... time...

[Johnny Z]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 14 September 2015 - 06:34 AM, said:

Its different when Russ himself says on a Town hall later on that the crap on the pts was being delayed from the 22nd to the 6th and then further. But the point remains that before they found that they were putting it out on the 22nd. Or thats what Russ was saying

Relax its just test server. Any comment is fine but maybe something on topic or helpfull.

[reign]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 14 September 2015 - 06:34 AM, said:

Its different when Russ himself says on a Town hall later on that the crap on the pts was being delayed from the 22nd to the 6th and then further. But the point remains that before they found that they were putting it out on the 22nd. Or thats what Russ was saying

No he said "I hate to say this but it will slide out even further, Our QA process wont make the 22nd" earliest would be the 6th. But thats only if the first test goes well. We might need even further testing and it may slide into November...

Here let me help you with source:





your welcome

[sycocys]

reign, on 14 September 2015 - 06:18 AM, said:

Will not be released in increments but all at once.

Let me help you understand why people are bothered with what happened.

This quote - what we were told was going to be on the PTS - and what we got on the PTS were two entirely different things with absolutely no communication that we should expect something other than or less than a full balance pass.

[reign]

sycocys, on 14 September 2015 - 06:47 AM, said:

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Let me help you understand why people are bothered with what happened.

This quote - what we were told was going to be on the PTS - and what we got on the PTS were two entirely different things with absolutely no communication that we should expect something other than or less than a full balance pass.

Let me help you

• Multiple PTS and wont be released until community is happy with it
  

[sycocys]

Yep and they still forgot to do the entire balance part - you still don't understand why people are irritated?

Everyone was expecting to test the balance multiple times, that was a given. No one was expecting to be pre-testing a quarter or less of the balance pass.

[Johnny Z]

reign, on 14 September 2015 - 06:49 AM, said:

Let me help you

• Multiple PTS and wont be released until community is happy with it
  

I got a cramp in my face laughing at all the helpfullness around here.

[reign]

sycocys, on 14 September 2015 - 06:54 AM, said:

Yep and they still forgot to do the entire balance part - you still don't understand why people are irritated?

Everyone was expecting to test the balance multiple times, that was a given. No one was expecting to be pre-testing a quarter or less of the balance pass.

You do know that they didn't even finish compiling the Spread sheet till like last week. And people were going absolutely nuts about when they would get to test the new balance settings.

So Scenario A. They wait till its more complete : and probably still as broken.. and it slides into next year.

Or Scenario B. They let put in some arbitrary numbers: which really seems what they are right now, let us do the work and claim success...

Honestly PGI could not win in this situation. yeah if they would have gotten the PTS out month or so ago we would be much further along.. but this is the video game industry... Nothing goes on time.

Johnny Z, on 14 September 2015 - 06:56 AM, said:

I got a cramp in my face laughing at all the helpfullness around here.

I just hate how it has spilled so much into the game I hear it so much on coms, I am not usually a vocal person either.. but al mighty! wow....

I like to stay informed so I read and re- read items.. I don't agree with some things and I make my points when I need to...

This though was a firestorm (of passion I understand) that really didn't need to be.

[sycocys]

It really doesn't seem like you understand the actual problem. I'll try one more time in short sentences, but this is it.
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We were told PTS would be full balance pass.

PTS was new communication pass with many unexplained debuffs.

After PTS shut off we were told it was a new communications pass very little balance done.

Everyone expected to be testing the first iteration of the full balance.

Why? So PGI could work with the results and update it for the next test.

Then we expected to do this couple-few more times.

What we got was nothing close to what we were told we were getting for the test.

Communication was horrible from PGI going in, testers were and are still unhappy.

Originally -this pass- was supposed to go live next week.

That bothers people because they aren't even 1/4 of the way to the first balance pass for test.

Root cause - terrible communication from PGI

[Khereg]

reign, on 14 September 2015 - 06:18 AM, said:

... and wont be released until community is happy with it

I found the relevant part of the comment.

I'll confess I haven't gone to the test server, but have had many conversations with those who have. They're irate. To a person. I've heard no one even say, "I'll wait and see, but...".

Now me? I'll wait and see b/c I have no first-hand experience with the revised quirks, but on paper they look.....questionable at best.

It's become clear that this was never intended to be a "public test and revise until people are happy" exercise, but a "public test and release no matter what the reaction is" exercise. I think that's ultimately what's grinding people's gears. We/they were promised a chance to review and influence and all they really seem to be getting is a chance to sneak-peek the inevitable.

Edited to add: I just found and watched the Sean Lang video from another thread that seems to address all this, so I'm firmly back to "wait and see".

Edited by Khereg, 14 September 2015 - 08:43 AM.