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[Sarlic]

Scout Derek, on 13 October 2015 - 07:11 AM, said:

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No way i cant beat that 1400! Haha. That one must have been insane match.

Or i need to boat LPLs. But i dont like boating. No idea how to manage that.

Edited by Sarlic, 13 October 2015 - 07:23 AM.

[Astrocanis]

I have had great success with Blackjacks, Kintaros and Trebuchets (my gauss 2xml is my current favorite). I prefer mediums to pretty much everything else because they are kind of the Ali of mechs - particularly the "sting like a bee" part.

I'm also stupidly fond of my Cicadas. Unfortunately, I'm in T3 hell, so ~nothing~ is all that much fun for me atm.

[Sarlic]

The Orions have been amazing so far.

I consider a 300+ a good show, whereabouts 400-500 range is good and 600-800 range exceptionally good.

My highest score was 911 in a M. Yes... a Orion M!

No silly trend as LPLs, no silly boating. But a real challenging build. And i still manage to score decent. Even on losses.

Build i used: 2x LL, 1x UAC/5, 3x SRM4 and finally a TAG. Yes a TAG.
This build works very well and is like i said challenging.

Like this:



I like to build my own challenges.

This is so satifying!

Building it
Orions are harder to build. I prefer to buld them on the longer range. In the glorious days they tend to be build as brawlers. I only would brawl with it if i had the protector with the 2 ballistic slots. Even then i would probaly go for a bit range.

The Orions are in my opinion even more challenging then the Atlas. While i have on all Atlai a positive ratio i find you have to work even more in the Orion to get a KDR over 1. (Assuming the hole i dig when i had to master them in the 'higher' tiers with all these gauss vomit, laserspam and more)

Which i need to add the Orion VA is the most tricky one. I personally dislike this mech because it has ALL firewpower stacked in the arms. I find this the most difficult one. Because when you twist too much you lose all your firewpower. If you dont twist enough you die on either CT/ST just like the Atlas.

Hitbox problems.
I can really tell how squishy the Orion is. It's huge compared to some other 75 tons mechs. Big stompy arms. And it has terribad hitboxes just like the Atlas.

Hmm... Mech-licious. The way i like.


The most fun build i had was a ERPPC+ERLL+AC/2, TAG and 2 SRM6. Incredible heat but so cool when you sniper people on the longer range. Defination of poptarting changed in sidetarting.

Mech	Played	Wins	Losses	Ratio	Kills	Deaths	Ratio	Damage done
ORION ON1-M	184	94	82	1.15	118	116	1.02	57,397
ORION ON1-M	164	84	80	1.05	101	109	0.93	50,727
ORION ON1-V	174	71	100	0.71	101	122	0.83	47,961
ORION ON1-VA	128	51	76	0.67	89	96	0.93	35.801

Lets see if i can pull them out of the hole and bring them up to 1+. Still enjoying them so much. I love just wrecking people with by other people defined terribad builds.

Edited by Sarlic, 18 November 2015 - 09:12 AM.

[MechWarrior414712]

Love ur blog man

[Sarlic]

The Mech Daddy, on 18 November 2015 - 09:11 AM, said:

Love ur blog man

Don't worry it's the last post. Just wanted to give a small heads up after 2 months.

Thanks.

XP bar still growing with these terribad mechs for anyone's interested.

Edited by Sarlic, 18 November 2015 - 09:15 AM.

[MischiefSC]

Hey. We could use a 'I play Orions and Atlases and still love it' blog. No sarcasm there.

Surprised you're suffering in the VA. I run AC20, 2LLs on the left arm and 2 MLs on the right. It's one of my best performer out of the Orions.
ORION ON1-VA 108 54 54 1.00 109 76 1.43 32,168 70,617 09:35:01


Also
ORION ON1-K 126 77 49 1.57 138 79 1.75


Edited to add stats for the ON1-K which I haven't played in a while and forgot had really enjoyed.

Edited by MischiefSC, 18 November 2015 - 10:14 AM.

[Sarlic]

MischiefSC, on 18 November 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

Hey. We could use a 'I play Orions and Atlases and still love it' blog. No sarcasm there.

Surprised you're suffering in the VA. I run AC20, 2LLs on the left arm and 2 MLs on the right. It's one of my best performer out of the Orions.
ORION ON1-VA 108 54 54 1.00 109 76 1.43 32,168 70,617 09:35:01


Also
ORION ON1-K 126 77 49 1.57 138 79 1.75


Edited to add stats for the ON1-K which I haven't played in a while and forgot had really enjoyed.

Not bad!

The reason i hate is it because it's just like the Atlas RS practically all firepower is stacked in the arms.

I have tried various builds (yes build them myself)

LRM5. Funny
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e653bc33c79a67d
The spam works. But low mounted arms...ugh and overly ECM mechs not helping.

Semi brawl 1
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cbbe0a46db6e85a
Did OK. Good build though. I like it.

Semi brawl 2 - My best build/peformance due low heat of the gauss rifle.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...68b4b55ee68bdab

Really diggin the FF per ton. Perhaps i should experiment more. But speed is everything on the Orion. Atleast in my opinion. Especially with all that Clan tech running around.

Currently running a SSRM build on it. I use a large laser to strip armor and use the SSRMS to seek critcs.

Edited by Sarlic, 18 November 2015 - 10:29 AM.

[Mainhunter]

I have some really great Orion builds. I even own 2 K Variants. One with 2x2 ERLasers and one for the brawl with 2x2 LPulse. The one with ErLasers is hard to beat at range. Maxed DH's and you can shot nearly non-stop. The one with the fast firing LBX10 is also fun and damn annoying for your opponents. Then I have a AC/10 with 2x LPuls, all on the right torso side good for peek around a corner. The orion is for sure worth a second view.

[Obadiah333]

Highlander. Put a std engine in and it will be as slow as your atlas, just with jumpjets (that are mostly useless) and about the same firepower. It's equally as lethargic and bulky.

[Sarlic]

Mainhunter, on 18 November 2015 - 12:28 PM, said:

I have some really great Orion builds. I even own 2 K Variants. One with 2x2 ERLasers and one for the brawl with 2x2 LPulse. The one with ErLasers is hard to beat at range. Maxed DH's and you can shot nearly non-stop. The one with the fast firing LBX10 is also fun and damn annoying for your opponents. Then I have a AC/10 with 2x LPuls, all on the right torso side good for peek around a corner. The orion is for sure worth a second view.

I found the LBX close.. sounds weird... too much advantage? Too overquirked. But extreme fun!

4ERLLs? Not fan of boating though. Sounds fun.

[MischiefSC]

Drop the gauss, pick up an AC20, 2MLs, 4xSRM4A. Great ambush predator for the VA. As always with SRM4s it's best up close and late game. I get the desire for the Gauss, I do but at least for me the point was always find a target, hunt him until you can get some face time with him alone and then bull-rush for the kill. The gauss just doesn't bring the firepower for that like the AC20s. A gauss is great for a long range build but the AC20 just syncs well with the SRMs and lasers.

This is my best performer. This is the K build I use and it works very, very well - for an Orion. You lean around walls on that left side with the 2 LLs early match and take free shots with the AC20 when you can, with 5 tons of ammo you work that AC20 like an AC5. You put the LLs on the left so if you lose the left side you've got the 2xMLs and the AC20 for 30pts or if you lose the right side you've got the 2 LLs for 18 pts, which while not great still isn't bad. 48pt alpha isn't phenomenal but it's very, very cool running for a 48pt pinpoint alpha build. If you're Tier 1 from Atlas play then you can run the AC20 I have no doubt.

Really glad you're enjoying it. I love the Atlas, I love the Orion. I wish game balance didn't punish them so badly but all in all they're a lot of fun.

[Sarlic]

Obadiah333, on 18 November 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

Highlander. Put a std engine in and it will be as slow as your atlas, just with jumpjets (that are mostly useless) and about the same firepower. It's equally as lethargic and bulky.

Already got the Orions mate! Apologies!
(Maxed them all out already except for the Protector.)

[Mainhunter]

Sarlic, on 18 November 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

I found the LBX close.. sounds weird... too much advantage? Too overquirked. But extreme fun!

4ERLLs? Not fan of boating though. Sounds fun.

Overquirked? Maybe, but doesn't make it more powerful than any other weapon.

The 4 ERLaser is really fun when you stay away from the fight at 800+ meters. With 4x zoom module you can rack some damage. Great at Alpine and Strait.

[Obadiah333]

Sarlic, on 18 November 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

Already got the Orions mate! Apologies!
(Maxed them all out already except for the Protector.)

No worries. Maybe Highlanders could be next after the Orions'! I think I still have one floating around somewhere among my clan mechs.

[Sarlic]

MischiefSC, on 18 November 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

Drop the gauss, pick up an AC20, 2MLs, 4xSRM4A. Great ambush predator for the VA. As always with SRM4s it's best up close and late game. I get the desire for the Gauss, I do but at least for me the point was always find a target, hunt him until you can get some face time with him alone and then bull-rush for the kill. The gauss just doesn't bring the firepower for that like the AC20s. A gauss is great for a long range build but the AC20 just syncs well with the SRMs and lasers.

This is my best performer. This is the K build I use and it works very, very well - for an Orion. You lean around walls on that left side with the 2 LLs early match and take free shots with the AC20 when you can, with 5 tons of ammo you work that AC20 like an AC5. You put the LLs on the left so if you lose the left side you've got the 2xMLs and the AC20 for 30pts or if you lose the right side you've got the 2 LLs for 18 pts, which while not great still isn't bad. 48pt alpha isn't phenomenal but it's very, very cool running for a 48pt pinpoint alpha build. If you're Tier 1 from Atlas play then you can run the AC20 I have no doubt.

Really glad you're enjoying it. I love the Atlas, I love the Orion. I wish game balance didn't punish them so badly but all in all they're a lot of fun.

Hey man, your tip worked. I am peforming much better then before.

The VA is my weakest variant. The others is as you can see in the post above practically all the same in damage output. Which means i am peforming them on constant levels.

I am not very fond of the AC/20 in the first place because the typical terrible armor and tradtional boxed layout is the same as at the Atlas.

Kind of nice to have some sort of brawlish type on the line up.

Edited by Sarlic, 19 November 2015 - 03:51 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

Obadiah333, on 18 November 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

Highlander. Put a std engine in and it will be as slow as your atlas, just with jumpjets (that are mostly useless) and about the same firepower. It's equally as lethargic and bulky.

well... there is that 733P variant. 67.2 KPH (its quite fast for 90 toner), 3 LPL + 1 LL. Std engine + AMS. fire 3 LPL, wait till end, then fire 1 LL, when the beam ends, your 3x LPL are again rdy. im running this.