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#1 LMP

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 05:35 PM

I have read that some Mechs cannot be used to master a trio of Mechs, but I can't find where I read it.

I think it's certain Mechs like the Hero Mechs or some other special versions within a group of the same Mech.

#2 Audacious Aubergine

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 05:38 PM

That sounds fishy. Most of the mechs I own have been from mastery packs, which include a regular, a champion and a hero variant. Several of these have been levelled all the way

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 05:41 PM

If you own it you can use it as one of the 3 you need to level to open the next level of skills.
If you are just using the trial mechs you can't level them or use one as one of the 3 you need. If you go purchase the Trial mech then you could use the XP earned on it. (I think).

Edited by Snegtag, 20 September 2015 - 05:43 PM.


#4 Amsro

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 06:20 PM

A spider 5D and a spider 5D(C) both count towards the same experience and is not considered it's own variant.

I think that is what someone was getting at.

A champion version of a mech does not count as a new variant.

#5 Durant Carlyle

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 08:12 PM

Snegtag and Amsro together have it.

Trial 'Mechs do not count -- you must own the 'Mech.
Champion ( C ) 'Mechs do not count as their own variant -- they count as the original variant.
Other special 'Mechs like (F), (S), (I), etc also only count as the original variant and not their own.

#6 IraqiWalker

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 09:06 PM

View PostLMP, on 20 September 2015 - 05:35 PM, said:

I have read that some Mechs cannot be used to master a trio of Mechs, but I can't find where I read it.

I think it's certain Mechs like the Hero Mechs or some other special versions within a group of the same Mech.

People already explained it, so let me consolidate it

To master a chassis you need three variants of that chassis

We'll use the Centurion as an example.

Currently, these are the variants that exist in game:

CN9-A
CN9-A(C) (Champion)
CN9-D
CN9-AL
CN9-YLW (Hero)
CN9-AH
CN9-AH(L) (Loyalty special edition)
The special designation ones like the CN9-AH(L), and CN9-A(C) are identical to their non-designation versions (CN9-AH, and CN9-A). They actually share the same tree, and don't show up as their own variants.

The special designation is not a unique variant. It's a regular variant with a bonus. So the CN9-A, and the CN9-A(C) are identical in every respect, except for the fact that the (C) gives you 30% extra experience.


TL;DR:
You need 3 VARIANTS. Not three mechs. That's why special designation versions don't count if your three choices include their regular version [A selection of CN9-A, CN9-A(C), and CN9-D is in fact only 2 variants (A, and D).]

#7 Lily from animove

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 02:52 AM

However, using a tiral mech grants you XP in that chassis, Once you buy a chassis that is the same variant as the trial you sue,d you can already spend those XP

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 10:19 AM

As mentioned, Champion version of chassis is just a "boosted" version of the base chassis.

So you cannot utilize a (C) chassis + the standard chassis as a part of your 3 mech set to unlock elites.

Any other mech will do. There are no chassis that simply don't count towards the 3 mech system as long as those said mechs are "unique" versions of the chassis.

#9 JC Daxion

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 02:48 PM

View PostAmsro, on 20 September 2015 - 06:20 PM, said:

A spider 5D and a spider 5D(C) both count towards the same experience and is not considered it's own variant.

I think that is what someone was getting at.

A champion version of a mech does not count as a new variant.



yes, this is what they were talking about most likely.. Any mech with the (c) is the same as it's none (c) so that means it won't count.

You also need to own the mech, to unlock the XP slots.. so if you used a trial, you need to buy that same mech with c-bills or MC, and then it will unlock allowing you to spend your XP on the mech.

#10 LMP

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 03:19 PM

I have two Cicadas a CDA-X5 and a CDA-2A(C) so the one I DO NOT want to buy would be the CDA-2A.

The one I should buy is either a 2B, 3C or 3M?

#11 TheCaptainJZ

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 03:24 PM

Correct. Note that the 2a (c ) and the 2a have the same harpoints and stats, just different loadouts. They are functionally the same.

#12 LMP

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 03:57 PM

Thanks guys. :)

#13 Anachronda

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 03:36 AM

View PostSnegtag, on 20 September 2015 - 05:41 PM, said:

If you own it you can use it as one of the 3 you need to level to open the next level of skills.
If you are just using the trial mechs you can't level them or use one as one of the 3 you need. If you go purchase the Trial mech then you could use the XP earned on it. (I think).


Yep, if you buy that variant you can apply the XP you earned from running trial mechs. There are no mechs that cannot be used for mastery. I think the OP was probably confused by statements about trial mechs, because the XP earned can't be applied until you buy that variant, and until it is applied to efficiencies it doesn't count for mastery.





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