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#1 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 04:52 AM

It's been a month since this new PSR tier bullshite started and I'm still getting ***** almost every game. I am in a tier I HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN.

How many more months of getting ***** everytime I play do I have to endure before I drop down where I belong? I am average, AT BEST, and I'm dropping against players WAY better than I am.

And being in a tier I don't belong in, this new challenge is crap, I can't even get 200 damage most games against these players, much less whatever it takes to get a 300 score. Played for 5 hours last night and got a whopping TWO 300 score games. Most games my score was under 200.

This PSR tier is crap, and I am a goddam LIABILITY to the teams I'm dropping on because this.

HOW MANY MORE MONTHS WILL THIS TAKE, PGI?

#2 orcrist86

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 04:55 AM

I'd you keep having bad games every game and do not change tiers your are at the bottom, nothing will change. If you get fair matches, but you hate that you are in the correct tier and nothing will change.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 04:57 AM

By the time you're posting I am guessing you're dealing with a low population. You're matches must have a very mixed tier. There isn't much you can do about it.

#4 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:00 AM

I said I played 5 hours.... last night.

And I have played 4 games this morning, trying to shake it up. EVERY game was a ****. 4 games, all jokes. My team can't kill more than 1-3 of the other side. AND I KNOW PART OF THIS IS MY FAULT. I AIN"T THAT GODDAM GOOD and the MM THINKS I am.

Edited by Votanin FleshRender, 18 September 2015 - 05:01 AM.


#5 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:06 AM

View Postorcrist86, on 18 September 2015 - 04:55 AM, said:

I'd you keep having bad games every game and do not change tiers your are at the bottom, nothing will change. If you get fair matches, but you hate that you are in the correct tier and nothing will change.


I am not in the bottom tier. Last week I dropped against Twinky 5 games in a row.

I was CRAP last year, my elo dropped a lot, I'm sure. Starting Jan, I got better at the same time I was dropping at the bottom of the elo pool. Since Jan, I have done AMAZING in the solo Q. Enter this new tier PSR CRAP. All they looked at was the period of time I did great in, so the goddam MM thinks I'm some kind of great player. I KNOW I'M NOT. And I'm ******* tired of listening to ******** being rude about me not being up to snuff. IT'S NOT MY FAULT I'M being matched with and against players I should NOT BE

#6 SnagaDance

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:08 AM

Are you sure you're playing agaisnt elite players? From tier 5 those Tier 3 players look like gods you know. ;)

"Any MechWarrior sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic." :P

I keed, I keed.....

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:10 AM

OP, the PSR system is a recent one.
It will take more time and more players for it to work efficiently.

For now, we all have to endure getting our butts handed to us from time to time.

Even when it's for hours or days.

I do believe the PSR system will work even better (by a long shot) compared to ELO as soon as the amount of active players increases.

Give it time, enjoy the little things of each game and hopefully we will have a working MM in less than a years time.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:16 AM

The reason your matches suck is BECAUSE you are in the celler tier...

All players contribute to the quality of the match. Just because everyone sucks does not mean magically the steamroll as a result of compounded force attrition does not take effect.

#9 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:16 AM

View PostFlipOver, on 18 September 2015 - 05:10 AM, said:

OP, the PSR system is a recent one.
It will take more time and more players for it to work efficiently.

For now, we all have to endure getting our butts handed to us from time to time.

Even when it's for hours or days.

I do believe the PSR system will work even better (by a long shot) compared to ELO as soon as the amount of active players increases.

Give it time, enjoy the little things of each game and hopefully we will have a working MM in less than a years time.


It is not 'time to time'
It is not 'hours or days'
It's been unending ever since this change was made.
'Give it time' ?? that's what I want to know. It's been a month of unending buttraping.

#10 Karl Streiger

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:18 AM

Every time i got my butt handed out - i can identify were and when the battle was lost - i also contributed in this defeat.
  • because I was killed alone in exposed position
  • because I have seen what was comming and didn't warn anybody
  • because I choose the wrong way - to late in battle
There are dozens of things that can go wrong - if one team does minor or less mistakes as the other it wins. Sometimes it looks like a steam roll - but its not the fault of PSR or the MM.

Want to change stuff? LEAD, by command, by example

#11 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:19 AM

View PostDaZur, on 18 September 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

The reason your matches suck is BECAUSE you are in the celler tier...

All players contribute to the quality of the match. Just because everyone sucks does not mean magically the steamroll as a result of compounded force attrition does not take effect.

If I was in the cellar tier, I wouldn't be dropping against the players I am now.

I did occasionally use LRMs. Before, in the solo Q, they were fairly effective. In the games I'm playing now, they are beyond useless. The players I play against now all have radar dep, all know how to take cover, etc. I'm not bitching about that, I'm using it to illustrate I'm NOT PLAYING AGAINST CELLAR DWELLERS.

View PostKarl Streiger, on 18 September 2015 - 05:18 AM, said:

Every time i got my butt handed out - i can identify were and when the battle was lost - i also contributed in this defeat.
  • because I was killed alone in exposed position
  • because I have seen what was comming and didn't warn anybody
  • because I choose the wrong way - to late in battle
There are dozens of things that can go wrong - if one team does minor or less mistakes as the other it wins. Sometimes it looks like a steam roll - but its not the fault of PSR or the MM.



Want to change stuff? LEAD, by command, by example


I am absolutely saying I'm contributing to our defeat. I AIN'T that GOOD.

And piss off with the get gud BS. I own my own business and have 4 kids. I'm as good as I'm going to get.

Edited by Votanin FleshRender, 18 September 2015 - 05:21 AM.


#12 Lugh

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:21 AM

Time to woman up and get better son.

Less QQ, more Pew Pew.

#13 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:24 AM

Quite simple, actually.


You need more Urbanmech.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:25 AM

View PostVotanin FleshRender, on 18 September 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:


It is not 'time to time'
It is not 'hours or days'
It's been unending ever since this change was made.
'Give it time' ?? that's what I want to know. It's been a month of unending buttraping.

You seem upset.
One month isn't enough time for a system like to mature, no matter how much you want it to be.

So either stop playing for a while, take a break, etc.

Or...
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#15 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:30 AM

View PostLugh, on 18 September 2015 - 05:21 AM, said:

Time to woman up and get better son.

Less QQ, more Pew Pew.

Less idiot, more reading.... I already said I own my own business, (work a LOT) and have 4 kids. I am as good as I'm getting.

View PostFlipOver, on 18 September 2015 - 05:25 AM, said:

You seem upset.
One month isn't enough time for a system like to mature, no matter how much you want it to be.

So either stop playing for a while, take a break, etc.

Or...
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If a month isn't enough, that's fine. That's what I want to know. HOW LONG WILL THIS TAKE? HOW MUCH **** MUST I ENDURE BEFORE I"M BACK WHERE I BELONG

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:35 AM

Votanin FleshRender, capital letters don't work the way you think they do.
It's just annoying...

Anyway, a system like PSR will need much more time and a lot more players for it to be able to work properly.

Even PGI can't say how long it will take, but my estimated guess would be in between 2 to 10 months, depending on a number of factors like player retention ability, how successful will be the Steam release, how good it is the new player experience, etc.

So, again, relax, play the game as long as it is fun, when it's not fun anymore, take a break and then come back with a cooler mindset.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:38 AM

View PostVotanin FleshRender, on 18 September 2015 - 05:30 AM, said:

Less idiot, more reading.... I already said I own my own business, (work a LOT) and have 4 kids. I am as good as I'm getting.



If a month isn't enough, that's fine. That's what I want to know. HOW LONG WILL THIS TAKE? HOW MUCH **** MUST I ENDURE BEFORE I"M BACK WHERE I BELONG

Sadly, you will have to sell your business (and maybe even your kids) to dedicate your life to MWO 24/7.

Your only other option is desperation, scrub.

P.S. I feel your pain. PSR seems to tell me carry or go home. I play against invisible enemies who hit me with bloody PPCs at 800 meters through a tangle of brambles in the Bog. I play against people who have the reflexes of a mongoose on meth and hand-eye coordination of neurosurgeon. All this while my own team often seems to be composed of lab monkeys with no sense of direction or strategy, only a loud mouth and passion for clumping in a huge tangle, obstructing line of fire and bumping into friendly mechs. Go figure.

#18 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:41 AM

View PostFlipOver, on 18 September 2015 - 05:35 AM, said:

Votanin FleshRender, capital letters don't work the way you think they do.
It's just annoying...

Anyway, a system like PSR will need much more time and a lot more players for it to be able to work properly.

Even PGI can't say how long it will take, but my estimated guess would be in between 2 to 10 months, depending on a number of factors like player retention ability, how successful will be the Steam release, how good it is the new player experience, etc.

So, again, relax, play the game as long as it is fun, when it's not fun anymore, take a break and then come back with a cooler mindset.

You can't be serious. This might last 10 months?
If that's true, I will never play this game again. Everyone playing this game must be a bit of a masochist to get through the NPE, but I don't hate myself enough to put myself through this for another possible 10 months

#19 Votanin FleshRender

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:45 AM

View PostFlipOver, on 18 September 2015 - 05:35 AM, said:

So, again, relax, play the game as long as it is fun, when it's not fun anymore, take a break and then come back with a cooler mindset.


Any break I take will be permanent. Why come back if I'm just going to keep getting buttraped? What about leaving will change my tier?

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 05:45 AM

View PostVotanin FleshRender, on 18 September 2015 - 05:41 AM, said:

You can't be serious. This might last 10 months?
If that's true, I will never play this game again. Everyone playing this game must be a bit of a masochist to get through the NPE, but I don't hate myself enough to put myself through this for another possible 10 months

If you are in a hurry, then I guess this game isn't for you.
I hear Call of Duty is great for people with no patience. Try it.



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