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[Otto Cannon]

Encouraging frustration and bad gameplay was certainly a mistake PGI are guilty of, but they never forced anyone to disco or suicide just to get the reward quicker.

I would be stupid and careless if I left my wallet unguarded on a table, but you're still a thief and a ***** if you take it.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

Is this a real thing, or just wishful thinking? I didn't see an official post.

[PholkLorr]

Davers, on 21 September 2015 - 02:48 PM, said:

I love how players are exonerated from all personal accountability for acting like jerks and all the blame is put on PGI.

I love how PGI is exonerated from all design fails (and they have a track record of screwing almost everything they release) and all the blame is put on the players.

[Damien Tokala]

PholkLorr, on 21 September 2015 - 03:24 PM, said:

I love how PGI is exonerated from all design fails (and they have a track record of screwing almost everything they release) and all the blame is put on the players.

Doesn't give you the right to abuse the system.

[xMintaka]

riverslq, on 21 September 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

I'm not trying to be an ass here, i probably missed it.
where did they post that suicides and dc were against the rules?

Not sure about recently, but it's always been in the Code of Conduct.

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Exploiting / Griefing / Non-Participation
Our definition of Exploiting / Griefing includes:

• Wilfully or repeatedly destroying Teammate or Lancemate 'Mechs.
  
• Wilfully or repeatedly self-destructing one's 'Mech by Overheating or going Out-of-Bounds
  
• Wilfully or repeatedly disconnecting during a match.
  
• Wilfully or repeatedly spamming in-game chat.
  
• Persistent non-participation in core game mechanics.
  
• Wilfully or repeatedly taking advantage of an issue for personal gain.

[Bulletsponge0]

Lunatech, on 21 September 2015 - 03:33 PM, said:

Not sure about recently, but it's always been in the Code of Conduct.

[i]

proof that nobody actually reads the Code of Conduct.

of course, intentionally disconnecting or suiciding should fall under the realm of common sense for not being allowed..but hey...

[Mystere]

Davers, on 21 September 2015 - 02:48 PM, said:

I love how players are exonerated from all personal accountability for acting like jerks and all the blame is put on PGI.

The guilty are hiding their guilt? Please, no such things happen.

[Davers]

PholkLorr, on 21 September 2015 - 03:24 PM, said:

I love how PGI is exonerated from all design fails (and they have a track record of screwing almost everything they release) and all the blame is put on the players.

PGI can be blamed for making a challenge that required a lot of luck to win.But PGI didn't make players act like jerks.

[riverslq]

crimson match i need, rarely see it
another roll, the wrong way
yeah, this event is working as intended.

Lunatech, on 21 September 2015 - 03:33 PM, said:

Not sure about recently, but it's always been in the Code of Conduct.

[i]

I just thought they would've called it out specifically for this event, since the maps were RNG (gag) based

[SolCrusher]

Maps that I had a good score for I just TK'd the DC. Yeah no denying it, lined em up and nuked their sorry quitting @$$ to deny the enemy the damage pinata.

[Damien Tokala]

SolCrusher, on 21 September 2015 - 03:49 PM, said:

Maps that I had a good score for I just TK'd the DC. Yeah no denying it, lined em up and nuked their sorry quitting @$$ to deny the enemy the damage pinata.

Also bannable. Byebye

[Mystere]

At the very least, PGI should remove all abusers' scores and winnings from the event. It's time PGI made an example of people.

[Revis Volek]

SolCrusher, on 21 September 2015 - 03:49 PM, said:

Maps that I had a good score for I just TK'd the DC. Yeah no denying it, lined em up and nuked their sorry quitting @$$ to deny the enemy the damage pinata.

So you got butt hurt that someone dc'd on your team you took it upon yourself to then screw the remaining players on the op for by stealing their kills ( and tking mind you) denying them a chance as well?

Bravo sir...you are a pillar in this community. Keep up your diligent, selfish, greedy, and banable gameplay.

[Kubernetes]

Yeah, they should have kept the DC counter. You *must* stop people from DCing after death, because otherwise folks will just suicide and then DC. I know it sucks to have to wait the whole match, but we're seeing the consequences of PGI's walk-back.

I just saw the same people disconnecting over and over again this afternoon. It was frustrating to come into a match, see their names, and know it was doomed to be a 10 v 9 or something.

[riverslq]

DarthRevis, on 21 September 2015 - 03:57 PM, said:

So you got butt hurt that someone dc'd on your team you took it upon yourself to then screw the remaining players on the op for by stealing their kills ( and tking mind you) denying them a chance as well?

Bravo sir...you are a pillar in this community. Keep up your diligent, selfish, greedy, and banable gameplay.

wow, you are an *******.

[Damien Tokala]

I think the problem with mwo is, we're not restricting who plays, and as a result, we have children like river and sol playing a game meant for adults.

[Revis Volek]

riverslq, on 21 September 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

wow, you are an *******.

Am I? Calling it like i see it makes me one then so be it. I will own that one if it helps you sleep at night.

[crashlogic]

Look the question is not whether player who DC/suicide are jaggoffs or not. Clearly they are. The question raised by the OP is whether PGI should punish them? And I think not. Look you all might all be perfect people and never do anything wrong, I envy you. But most of us on planet Earth do stupid assholish **** because our frustration levels are through the roof. The mechwarrior online community is full of people who do selfish things withoutregard for others. Look at the forum posts on tryhards, laservomit, lurmpocalypse, arcticcheeters, metabuilds, spawncampers and any number of things whihc are regareded as boorish behavior. We must therefore start with the assumption that people will be ******** if they are not checked. This is axiomatic. Its nice to wish we were all chivalrous and fair in out gameplay, but we aren't. We are mad at the gold mechs because we don't have 500 bucks to spend on the game or we would have happily run out and bought them ourselves for an advantage. So I ask myself two questions about this event:
1. was the bad behavior something PGI was in a position to know about; and
2. Was PGI in a position to do something about it?
If the answer to these two questions is yes, then the blame lies with PGI. Blaming a player for putting thier self interest above the team is like balmig a compass for pointing north. PGI knew about the possibility of DC and was in a position to fix it in a number of ways, they chose the wrong one, and the event became what it did. My guess is that hjad the maps come up evenly and the DC limiter been properly executed, we would have seen litle or no DC/suicide behavior.
You can be mad at players for DC/suicide, but punishing them is not really getting at the culpable party, you are treating the symptoms, not curing the disease. So no, I don't think PGI is in any position to punish or ban p-layers for a problem that resulted from a PGI failure.

[Damien Tokala]

Why do you insist on defending the fact that these people abused the system for their own gain? Furthermore you defend their ignorance of the TOS, which clearly states that they are not allowed to do what they just did!

[Kira Onime]

riverslq, on 21 September 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

I'm not trying to be an ass here, i probably missed it.
where did they post that suicides and dc were against the rules?

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